Public Mix Contest #6

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Sorry for the delay. got hit with a winter head cold and been in bed all day trying to recover.

I have 7 more entries to judge then I will merge eric and myselfs results and post them.
 
Raw-Tracks said:
Mmmm, maybe a mixer has been fired for producing, but generally speaking, most artists and producers are open to suggestions and interpretations from the mixer. Sure, the mixer may be asked to undo it, if the producer or the artist do not like it. But they are not going to be fired point blank. If the mixer is continually doing things they don't like, he may get let go as well, but that is because the mixer just isn't right for the project. It isn't because he muted to the triangle part for a few bars.

I am not trying to attack you Bryan. I just think you are being a little overbearing.

Eric I understand your point. and I in no wise feel attacked. I have real skin Been cussed ut by the biggest and the best. Doubt anyone could wrangle me.

Now let me shed some light on the highlighted statement.

Many an Artist and Producer. Your failure in your statement is that this Producer said what he wanted up front. So when you do what you want to do and it is against the producers wishes........Then what I should do lay down an accept what you did even though I as the producer told you up front what I wanted.

Look back through my Post you quoted and you will see on phrase I typed. It said if you have an idea you ask or present it before implementing it.

SO in the case oif this contest I up front told the mixers what i wnated. And when they stepped out side of what I wanted they violated my request.

If you go to the Dealership and pick out a Light Green Jag XJ-8 with a silver moon roof and the guy gives you one with a green moon roof are you gonna pay for it?? No I should think not unless you like people walking over you. No, you will remind the guy what you asked for, present him in wiritng the contract for the car order you presented and tell him to get it right else he does not get your money.

Granted no money was exhanged in these efforts, but I had a specific request. I have the right to demand that I get what i asked for or roll over and Play Dead.

In my Family I am the nicer one. My wife was pissed that people altered her song.

Was the song Busy. i dont think so. It had a lot of elements, but far from Busy.

If you stripped out the percussion what is there??

Drums, Vocals, bass, Key and Horns. That is so Far from busy. But then every one is entitled to their opinion. I really do appreciate others opinions. When we produce, for the most part we involve a lot of other people in the process. we just "manage" the ideas.

I accpet your belief that Iw as overbearing, but Rules are Rules. Next time a cop gets hit by someone in a crowd and they beat the person up I'll remember that thing about overbearing. Next time a Rapper comes in my Studio and threatens my life I'll remember that thing about overbearing. Heck next time somone walks in my studio smelling like a weed factory I'll remember that thing about overbearing. Rules are Rules. That is how we Govern ourselves. lets get rid of all the laws that we consider overbearing, like parking on one side of the street instead of both sides of the street. (The city my studio is located in) and other seemingly overbearing rules.

Please dont take the sarcasm too seriously. I am only driving home a point. PMC 6 was my contest, I defined the parameters and thats that. :)

If they felt the rules overbearing they could have just ignored the contest. 10 people did ignore this one. Will I ever be offended? No. I got where i am at today by learning the rules and playing by the rules.
 
OK Bryan this is the last thing I'll say about this because I think this is taking away from the hard work that everyone put into this.

What reason could you or your wife possibly have for being pissed at someone modifying the song ?

Anyway - I would have appreciated a heads up that there was an issue with my mix. I could have fixed it in 2 minutes. I did put some effort into this and not to bring up the past but I did put some effort into being a judge on the last contest.

End of rant. Nothing personal Bryan, I just cannot for the life of me understand your stance on this.

I would still appreciate some feedback on my mix regardless if I am disqualified or not.

Merry Christmas !

Dave
 
vestast - not to attack you or anyone else.

just my 2cents.. Bryan said from the beginning-no edits. I took that as a rule, so be it- no biggy. Maybe some were confused as to what that entailed. I just took it as just keeping the tracks as is and tried to mix the best I could. Maybe I'm a beginner, that's fine with me -everyone has to learn somewhere.

Maybe some of ya'll are more advanced than myself by having the creative
knowhow or what have you for editing(na lets call it'fix') for enhancing a mix and/or performance with a producers vision. That's great, but I don't get it.
Just mix it ya know?:)

Maybe the judges could give a subtractive point criteria for editing, but then it becomes all convoluted. How the heck can you asses point structure to probably a subject issue? As BB said it'd best to keep editing out, which I totally agree.

I suppose its still up to the judges to critique or not for the disqualified submissions. But with the concensous that they 'are' disqualified. Kinda seems moot however. Maybe as a 2nd page to overall mix/production kinda score card?

guess I;m rambling now;)
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vestast said:
I would still appreciate some feedback on my mix regardless if I am disqualified or not.

Dave

Dave, I did score your mix. I think Bryan is planning on scoring it as well. When I have a little more time, I will try to dissect it a bit more.

Cheers!
 
Just some words to be clear

The missing horns was a mistake not wish of any kind form of producing.As a professional musician for 18 years I know my strong and weak sides and certainly the mixing and producing are not among the good ones. :)At that area i am beginner.Actually I like the song and found myself to hum it several times these days.
The moral of the story - The rules are rules therefor i'll be more careful next time.
He he maybe the real reason for this confusion is some V-curse about this PMC6 (vanbas,vestast)who knows :rolleyes:

love and peace

Merry Christmas
 
Hey guys. Sorry for beating a dead horse. I'll take my lumps and I learned my lesson.

Merry Christmas everyone and good job on all your mixes !

Dave

:)
 
see what you guys did? Just kidding. Hopefully he's getting over the cold he mentioned.

As they wait in anticipation:)
 
Let me just say...

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!
 
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Well it looks like you guys really did it this time. :D I figured for sure we would have some results by now but looks like all good things must come to an end. Just kidding, Im sure Bryan is either still sick or had a very busy day with church and family. I would say Sunday morning if not late tomorrow night.

Everyone have a Merry Christmas and be safe. :)

Eddie
 
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With my massive "rep power" of 8, I officially declare a tie for first among all entrants...(INCLUDING Vestast)

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
 
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