Monkey Allen
Fork and spoon operator
Nah, nothing more until I've fixed it. I've got some free time in 2 more weeks. 
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RRuskin
Rick Ruskin
In the context of actually playing a piece of music, one would be hard-pressed to notice what you are obsessing over.
Monkey Allen
Fork and spoon operator
That's untrue.
DrewPeterson7
Sage of the Order
I'm not in front of my home computer and wouldn't trust the headset I have here for anything approaching critical listening, but I'll try to listen in the next couple days after work some night.
60's guy
Well-known member
Okay, you either can't (or prefer not) to post a photo. Clock is ticking.Nah, nothing more until I've fixed it. I've got some free time in 2 more weeks.
60's guy
Well-known member
For years, whenever I re-string any of my acoustic guitars I push the string through the turn post and cut the string 3" beyond the turn post. Push the string back by 2-1/2" and begin winding. Too few wraps round the turn post can be problematic....or so I've learned (on my own) and read. Works for me.
"non invasive way to curb some of the open string overtones, without using a damper type device is to wrap more string around the tuning post... so that the angle from the nut to the tuner is more severe."
YMMV
I re-string my electric guitars in the same manner.
"non invasive way to curb some of the open string overtones, without using a damper type device is to wrap more string around the tuning post... so that the angle from the nut to the tuner is more severe."
YMMV
I re-string my electric guitars in the same manner.
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Monkey Allen
Fork and spoon operator
Only for you 60's guy, only for you.Clock is ticking.
DrewPeterson7
Sage of the Order
Is there any way you CAN record a chord with that C note in it that also has this resonance?
Guitars are just resonant beasts, listening to this solo'd, it's not really jumping out at me as problematic (though, it also sounds nothing like the slight resonance I heard in the video of someone else linked where I do think that was just the slightest hint of fret buzz on one note that wasn't fret perfectly). Maybe this would sound wrong to me in the context of a few more notes, but on its own, it sounds... fine?
A C note having a G overtone is I suppose a little unusual, the 3rd or 5th would be more typical, but... I suppose another thing worth trying is play that note while explicitly muting the open G string below it, just to rule out a sympathetic vibration of that open G helping to bring out the 4th overtone of the C. This probably isn't your issue, unless the chords you're playing all happen to not involve your G string which seems unlikely, but in the name of science...
Monkey Allen
Fork and spoon operator
a) I am pretty sure I did that a year ago and posted them to the thread. Recording chords that is.
b) If it doesn't jump out at you as problematic that's ok. It is though. That's why I started the thread.
c) If you heard a 'slight resonance' in the video (the one I linked) and think it's fret buzz then that's ok too. You're just not hearing what I'm hearing.
d) I did mute the open G string. Said that some posts ago.
I think it's fair to say it's difficult for anyone to appreciate the nature of the issue...unless you're me. Coz I have the actual guitar in my hands. In person. It's not ok, it's not normal or fine etc. I've used a bunch of words to explain what is going on. I've posted audio clips and shown some videos. Everyone else is interpreting words and listening to bits of sound and theorizing on what they think I mean or what they think they hear. So we aren't running a perfect workshop here. I believe I started the thread way back when on the off chance someone would know exactly what I mean and exactly how to treat the issue. That hasn't happened. And that's ok.
Leave it with me. I'll get around to it. Probably just needs a new nut and saddle and a good thorough setup.
Papanate
Well-known member
Well - I don’t know what to say that won’t sound bad - but almost all us hear what you are talking about - and if it’s nut resonance that you are hearing you have an easy fix - why keep posting about it? - the thing is it’s very slight - and not something that would come into a recording - so why haven’t you got a new nut and setup?
DrewPeterson7
Sage of the Order
You should have pointed us to that clip weeks ago.
So, there IS a little bit of perceptible resonance in thay chord that isn't really audible elsewhere. It's probably more obtrusive to you tan to anyone else, if it helps - I can hear what you're talking about, sort of an additional build up of energy on the Am chord, but it's also not really obtrusive and I'm not sure someone would latch onto that as sounding bad unless you pointed it out.
I'm also not sure I can think of an obvious cause, especially since you're saying two of your guitars do this?
Monkey Allen
Fork and spoon operator
a) People keep posting. I just reply.
b) It does come into a recording. It's not very slight.
c) I don't have the time at the moment.
Monkey Allen
Fork and spoon operator
If the clip is in the thread it's always been in the thread.You should have pointed us to that clip weeks ago.
So, there IS a little bit of perceptible resonance in thay chord that isn't really audible elsewhere. It's probably more obtrusive to you tan to anyone else, if it helps - I can hear what you're talking about, sort of an additional build up of energy on the Am chord, but it's also not really obtrusive and I'm not sure someone would latch onto that as sounding bad unless you pointed it out.
I'm also not sure I can think of an obvious cause, especially since you're saying two of your guitars do this?
Trust me. It's obvious in person. It records right onto any track and stuffs the recording up.
And yes, I also can't think of an obvious cause. Frustrating to be sure. Like I said last post...leave it with me. I'll do the nut, saddle and setup when I have time.
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RFR
Well-known member
This thread was started in March of 2024.
It’s over a year old and 9 pages of talking about it.
The mantra seems to be “when I have the time”. You don’t seem to even have time to post a pic of the frets. Yet there’s plenty of time to post and even put up clips of the manifestation.
Fix the damn thing already.
60's guy
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The guitar in the video isn't his guitar. The video he linked to is meaningless in the context of this 18 month old thread.You should have pointed us to that clip weeks ago.
60's guy
Well-known member
Has it ever occurred to you that the people who have attempted to help you sort out the issues you're having with your D28 have given up any hope of ever reading about a successful resolution?
Sure thing, dude, in the context of recording your B string fretted on the first fret. Scratch that! It wasn't all that long ago that you blamed everything on that nasty G string!
Neither do I.
60's guy
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Monkey Allen
Fork and spoon operator
a) No, I wouldn't imagine people would care too much.
b) Yes, I've had conflicting theories.
c) See you round the clubs 60's Guy
60's guy
Well-known member
I asked you to post a photo of the fret wear on the first fret of your D28. You declined to post a photo of any significant fret wear at the first fret of your guitar.
I asked you to post a photo (for comparison) because I have a 45 year old Yarii DY 55 dreadnaught that I had re-fretted 20 years ago. There's a significant amount of fret wear (since then) on the B string- first fret that hasn't been proven itself yet to become problematic or annoying.
60's guy
Well-known member
This is why I kinda sorta like you! You're a wise guy!
a) People who have been following this thread for the past 18 months DO care.
b) Conflicting theories? That's utter nonsense. What you have received in the entirety of this thread amounts to an enormous amount of great advice that you repeatedly/summarily dismiss over and over again.
c) ???