Here is my recent mix; eager for any insights and feedback

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My first time trying this. Fair warning: Here's too much information about the process of creating my latest song. I'm curious to hear how you home recording experts would critique my work.

My brother Tom visited me about four years ago from Maryland. We eked out a version of this song, one of our favorites by Jackson Browne. It was pretty rough. His vocal (no insult intended) is an acquired taste, and he insisted on doubling the track and panning hard L and R, with reverb on only one track. OK.

Anyway, a few weeks ago I dredged it up and decided to see if I could sweeten it a bit.

Main vox
Melodyne, compression, and EQ dressed it up a lot.

BGV
My main focus at first was to try my hand at adding a chorus of background vocals. If you know the song, you know the BGVs are key. The BGV words are in three-part phrases, while the oohs at the end open up to five parts. I recorded three tracks for each part, so I had nine tracks for the words parts and fifteen for the oohs. I learned a lot mixing these snippets, particularly about maybe going too far in smoothing out pitch modulation.

Percussion
I decided to use Superior Drummer 3 to bring the drums up. In the original track, Tom had tapped a couple of keys on the keyboard to simulate kick and snare with a hint of hi-hat. I started there and added grace notes, toms, and cymbals. Also, I added compression to each track and brought in Ambience, as you can do between SD3 and Studio One. (Along the way, I finally “upgraded” to Fender Studio Pro 8 –– that’s another set of stories!)

Bass
Tom had played a very basic 1 - 4 - 5 bass track by plugging my bass directly into the AudioBox USB I had at the time, without a DI. To my dismay this year, there was a prominent buzz at the end of each note that did exactly what a mosquito does around your head. That had to go, so I re-recorded the entire track. This time I used a DI box into an XLR to the Motu M6 I’ve had for a couple of years now. Night and day. Then I hunted around for a fat signal chain in another plugin I acquired since we tracked it: Guitar Rig 7. There’s quite a bit more punch now, even with the pretty neutral chain I settled on.

Electric guitar
Happy with the new sound in the bass, I applied a couple of Guitar Rig 7 effects to Tom’s two electric guitar parts: the background obligato and the face-melting solo in the second Middle Eight. I wanted a chunky but unobtrusive main track, but I wanted the solo to blast out. I like where both ended up.

Piano
I left 90% of what was there, keeping Tom’s human touch dynamics instead of velocity-adjusted MIDI that I would have been able to “play.” I did add some flourishes here and there. No plugins at all.

Acoustic guitar (my main instrument)
The acoustic track is just full strummed chords to provide the harmonic structure. In 2022, I recorded in our large living/dining room space with spaced pair SDCs (sE Electronics sE8). This year, I was forced to admit that I could hear some phase-type ringing in the track. Out of curiosity, I put Melodyne studio on a duplicated track and there were TWO tracks very close together. This proved that the two mics received sound at different times. Also, the waveforms in the main screen were very jagged, not smooth at all like the bass waveforms. Unfixable. So I decided to replace the entire old track with an XY setup. I checked the new one in Melodyne with a duplicated track, and confirmed that there was just one signal. Most importantly, no phasing, no ringing. So, from an acoustic guitar standpoint, I'm sold on XY now. (I can still get L/R shifts if I move too much while I play.)

Effect of absorption panels
Last year, I hung my eight DIY absorption panels around the room: 3 on the front and right walls, one each on the right and rear walls. They are 3-1/2" thick and 2' x 4'. The room has a noticeable hush when you walk in, and when I aim my voice or guitar into them, I get the purest acoustic sound I've ever had in my little 12 x 13" spare bedroom. Eternal thanks to the folks over in Acoustic Guitar Forum who nudged me to go this route!

Mastering
On top of it all, I attempted some elementary mastering, also in Fender Studio Pro. This was little more than loudness setting to –12 LUFS, plus some gentle compression (–10 threshold, 2:1 ratio, 6 knee, 27 ms attack, 120 ms release, no makeup gain). I had already done so much gain staging that things were in pretty good shape in the mix.

There you have it. Let me have it. How does it sound to you?
 

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It sounds good to me. Well done. I hadn't heard the song before - I really like it. I listened in Mackie headphones. Mix sounds balanced.

The only thing that was a little weird - was the stereo effect on the lead vocal. It's a little distracting. Not sure if that would be an issue on a pair of normal speakers or not. But yeah - other than that - sounds good! :thumbs up:
 
Porterhouse, many thanks for listening and providing your thoughts.

I’m glad to hear you like the song. Time marches on. For me, I remember wearing this record out in 1976. I am seeing more and more evidence these days that songs that formed the narrative of my formative years are simply not known by regular folks now. “The Late Show” was issuing from every dorm room once upon a time, becoming an anthem of folk rock, a shorthand for relating to other young adults of the time. That was then. As Paul Simon wrote in “Old Friends” on the Bookends album in 1968, “How terribly strange to be seventy.” Amen to that.

Good catch on the lead vocal. I’m away from the DAW just now, but here’s what I remember:

Tom was set on duplicating his track and hard panning L and R. I gently tried to talk him out of that, but it’s what he wanted, because next, he wanted reverb and delay on just the right track. I agree the effect is a little weird. That’s the first thing my wife noticed, too, when she heard the result.

His mixes on his own songs actually sound way more odd and unnatural. I’ll have to have a frank conversation with him about it. On this song, I made so many additions, adjustments, and enhancements everywhere else that I left his vocal largely unchanged (except for the Melodyne we both agree we need!) out of respect. After all, it was his idea to do the song, his electric and bass guitar tracks, his piano and basic percussion, and of course his vocal.

I’m too close to it now; I’ve sort of stopped hearing the weirdness. Maybe I’ll remix the two raw tracks into a bus and see if I can make the vocal more conventional sounding. If it comes out better, he might not mind. I’ve had success with some of my songs by running my vocal to a Send with a low cut ahead of the reverb. I’ve panned the source track, say, to L30 and the Send to R45 or so. It’s not trying to be stereo, but it does seem to give a sense of space to the vocal. How to mix a lead vocal is a whole separate topic!
 
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Nice performance.
Only thing I'd say is the different components sound like they're in different audio spaces.
The drum part reverbs a bit, but the voice and that intro guitar seem to be dry.
 
Nice performance.
Only thing I'd say is the different components sound like they're in different audio spaces.
The drum part reverbs a bit, but the voice and that intro guitar seem to be dry.
Thank you, Slouching Raymond. That’s a useful insight. I’ll have to step back and take a look. The parts were assembled over time. I should probably volume-balance everything and then see about the space placement.

I have a lot to learn.
 
Main vocals, drums, and bass are the things we usually keep in the centre. When I double track mains (always), I might pan them 5 or 10 each side. Maybe with one in the middle as well. Hard panned BGVs and doubled acoustic guitars always work well too. There's a reason people do this a lot: it's pleasing to the ear. This sounds good, but I am currently listening on a (decent) mono pc speaker. There is a chorus warbling effect at the start that is probably the panning you mentioned.

But it's all personal choices, unique choices by the artist, or cover artist. So, while the standard panning is common, it doesn't mean it must be followed every time.

The added BGVs sound very full and nice. They remind me of Silver Sun, a 90s band who did loads of 70s style harmonies. Here's a good one.
 
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Thanks for your thoughts, thekesslerboy. I have to admit that the hard L/R pan on the duplicated main vox is starting to get to me. Maybe I’ll try them 30 L/30 R.

Thanks for the kind words about the BGVs. I’m making my way to a standard process. The next time I’m going to group or bus each part earlier in the sequence. Gain staging and volume balancing 9 to 15 audio events got old quickly. Anyway, I’m glad you liked it. I’m going to listen to the Silver Sun song now.
 
Back now after a listen. Yes, that kind of back and forth dialog is fun with BGVs. Thanks for sharing.

One of my originals makes use of that. Inspired by Jackson Browne.
 
There you have it. Let me have it. How does it sound to you?
The performances are okay - the everall sound is like a comb filter was applied - the stereo mix on the Lead Vox is odd - and not to the front of the mix - and @Slouching Raymond is right the mix sounds like it was recorded in a dozen room - nothing that can’t be fixed easily though -
 
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