The New Tone Thread

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joeydahlia said:
I can try to post a wave today or tomorrow..I dont like that this site soundcloud changed the wav to mp3..I wish I could find a plave that will play just waves
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Yeah, it sucks. Even at the highest Mp3 conversion, it still compresses the shit out of clips.
 
Seeker of Rock said:
Yeah, it sucks. Even at the highest Mp3 conversion, it still compresses the shit out of clips.
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Oh I hear it clear as day...my true wave sound unreal...and in your face....I seen it took waves..and then after it loaded it said converting wav...I said dang that sucks..lol
 
I know this is the tone thread, but Greg (and anyone else who wants to comment) care to give a listen to a quick dry drum sample? I left the snare tuning the same but adjusted the pre level and mic position. If you still think it needs tuning adjustment, it can be done. I have the OH's panned at about 10:00 and 2:00. It's the first clip titled 'dry'.

https://homerecording.com/bbs/equip...-clip-comparison-pcm90-pcm70-lxp-15ii-345995/
 
joeydahlia said:
I can try to post a wave today or tomorrow..I dont like that this site soundcloud changed the wav to mp3..I wish I could find a place that will play just waves
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the MP3 didn't add an unbelievably over the top amount of reverb to the track. Are you incapable of understanding anything anyone says.
Turn down the reverb regardless of what your tastes are if you want anyone to be able to tell anything about your speakers.
 
Greg_L said:
...the K100. He has to use it because it's one of the few reasonable priced readily available guitar speakers that can handle 100 watts all by itself.
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He should check out some of the Weber speaker. Their Michigan 12 will handle 100W ($112).
I have the Chicago 12, which handles 80W...and it's a sweet speaker. Used it in a Bogner Shiva, then when the Shiva went, I kept the Chicago since it was almost new.
 
Seeker of Rock said:
I know this is the tone thread, but Greg (and anyone else who wants to comment) care to give a listen to a quick dry drum sample? I left the snare tuning the same but adjusted the pre level and mic position. If you still think it needs tuning adjustment, it can be done. I have the OH's panned at about 10:00 and 2:00. It's the first clip titled 'dry'.

https://homerecording.com/bbs/equip...-clip-comparison-pcm90-pcm70-lxp-15ii-345995/
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There's a lot of mud in the kick. In my experience, kicks sometimes like a healthy scoop around 400 and somewhere between 100-200hz. The snare is pretty flubby. No attack. Muddy as well. You captured it well, but I suspect it'll be mushy in a full mix. I'd say tune it tighter - top and bottom - and try to get more crack out of it. The overheads seem okay. Seems like a pretty natural spread. Maybe you could go even wider with them.
 
Greg_L said:
There's a lot of mud in the kick. In my experience, kicks sometimes like a healthy scoop around 400 and somewhere between 100-200hz. The snare is pretty flubby. No attack. Muddy as well. You captured it well, but I suspect it'll be mushy in a full mix. I'd say tune it tighter - top and bottom - and try to get more crack out of it. The overheads seem okay. Seems like a pretty natural spread. Maybe you could go even wider with them.
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Thanks, man. I'll keep at it. I think I can probably get the kick clearer by moving the mic around. The snare has some compression, so reducing that should up the attack and then I'll tune it up if stills needs more.
 
The Tone Thread Delivers! :thumbs up: :facepalm:

Seeker, I don't know the first thing about tuning drums, nada, I don't even know what it means.
But if it is like a guitar I can say that the snare could be tuned 'up' a little, it might be a tad bit flat.

I gotta say; what a pain in the ass drums are.
I can't believe the trouble that guys have to go to to make some music.
 
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I got to thinking about it, it's like anything else,
if you have the space and the gear and the passion for
it (as well as the time), it is probably a very satisfying pursuit.
 
miroslav said:
He should check out some of the Weber speaker. Their Michigan 12 will handle 100W ($112).
I have the Chicago 12, which handles 80W...and it's a sweet speaker. Used it in a Bogner Shiva, then when the Shiva went, I kept the Chicago since it was almost new.
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I'm looking at the WGS Invader 50's. Supposedly they're a Greenback-ish sound with higher power handling (50w). I'm waiting to hear back from the fellas at WGS about them. Their soundclips are pretty good and I'd love to put two of them in this stereo 4x12 I have. I'd really like a Greenback sound without having to get another 4x12 full of them.
 
Greg_L said:
I'm still not sure wtf he even meant by that. But like everything else he says, I'm sure it's just pure nonsense.
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I'm sure he meant that $600 is an expensive amp,
and if you want to be a player, you're going to have
to step up to the plate.
 
Seeker of Rock said:
I'm an analog and tape fan, but you're getting some heavy signal distortion in the low freqs. Is that intentional or no? I'm guessing yes, and the trick is going into the r2r hot to get it, which could be a cool effect on the right song.
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Your absolutely right mate i was struggling with the low end distortion and didnt manage to tame it to my satisfaction .
I really like the tone i get on the middle strings though if i can just master the low end now . Time to revisit i think.
Thanks for the help seeker
 
kip4 said:
Your absolutely right mate i was struggling with the low end distortion and didnt manage to tame it to my satisfaction .
I really like the tone i get on the middle strings though if i can just master the low end now . Time to revisit i think.
Thanks for the help seeker
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So is it a matter of how hot the signal is going in?
 
Not really its how the compressor is reacting to the low end.
I have improved that aspect now but it sounds a little too thin now so i need to think again.
Its way better but just seems to have sucked out the lows a little too much.
not sure i'm making my self understood or putting it very well but hey
I'm gonna try another tack and put an eq pedal between the zoom gfx5 and the amp. Maybe add a little more bottom end to the reverb signal.
 
Lol. I just played an awesome take on a song I'm working on with a tone I really liked and forgot to press record. :facepalm: :laughings:
 
Greg_L said:
I'm looking at the WGS Invader 50's. Supposedly they're a Greenback-ish sound with higher power handling (50w). I'm waiting to hear back from the fellas at WGS about them. Their soundclips are pretty good and I'd love to put two of them in this stereo 4x12 I have. I'd really like a Greenback sound without having to get another 4x12 full of them.
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I have a 100 watt Weber Michigan in my Mark V. I like it pretty good although i find it to sound pretty similar to a V30.
 
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