Tascam M-___ Story...

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He's pouring concrete and building walls!

Yup!

Part of the project involves converting part of the original garage to a sound room...new pad was poured to level the garage floor with the house and then I had them score the concrete in between where the wall plates will be for the double walls...that way the pad upon which the drums and everything sits will be non-contiguous with the rest of the house. The score marks you can see kind of in the background outline the room...it'll be a little over 11' by a little over 10'. Not huge, but the biggest room I've ever had for the recording stuff and the instruments. The freezer in the background is in the new garage. Been busy...lots of tear out. The existing garage was finished with plywood, and that didn't even comprise half of what's in my burn pile...its huge...8' high, 12...maybe 15' in diameter...

Walls start going up this week.
 

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Yup!
and that didn't even comprise half of what's in my burn pile...its huge...8' high, 12...maybe 15' in diameter..

Burn pile?
:D I wanna see. Is any digital gear going into it? At least do some photoshop work and humor us :p
 
converting part of the original garage to a sound room..

That's actually a good sized space and the acoustics should be nice too, especially if the floor and walls are untreated. I'm jealous!:D:drunk:
 
Oooooo, Muck! That's funny!

I'll see what I can do...maybe I can get Ghost to do some work on it!

Daniel and Greg, I'll see how it sounds...it'll have to be a compromise of sorts since I don't want it too dead for drums but I want it controlled for monitoring. The floor will be low-pile carpet and the I'll strategically treat the walls with mineral fiber panels.

Its a decent sized room as a control room but it is doubling as a recording room as well as a control room...the Soundtracs mixer, The MM-1000, a workstation for the DAW controller, the BR-20T rack...drums, guitars...it'll be pretty full.

No complaints here...I'll just be thankful for a space to play drums in again. Its been over 20 years, and to be able to track in there too...

So the inner wall layer will sit on the cut section of concrete, and the outer layer will sit on other concrete; two separate 2 x 4 wall plates with 1/2" in between...and the ceiling joists for the sound room will set on top of the top plates of the inner walls so floor to ceiling the room will not be connected with the rest of the house...and two doors, one for the inner layer and one for the outer layer...solid core doors...like solid-solid...each door weighs maybe 75lbs? So with the room decoupled and healthy insulation in all the cavities it should be relatively nice and quiet outside the room when we're crankin' away...
 
Corry, considering you're building a tracking room from scratch, I would strongly advise you to consider designing for a separate mechanical room for the MM1000, which could be something as simple as a closet sized alcove with a sliding glass door to isolate the mechanical cooling fan noise and to that end, it would also be advantageous to get the remote control up and working. Doing it that way will keep the room quiet enough to track quieter live sources such as vocals, acoustic guitars and so on without having to worry about the fan noise leaking into mix.

Cheers! :)
 
Yeah, Jeff, you are totally right, but its not going to happen. A machine room would have been nice to build into things but you'd have to have been on the ride we've been on. This sound room is a small part of the project overall and a low priority and with the other spaces and changes needed there's nowhere to put a machine room. I know that sounds silly but you'd have to see the plans and understand our goals and the footprint limitations as well as our financial limitations. Plus, if a closet went into that room, or anything that looks like a closet, then it would be considered a bedroom and we'd have to replace our septic tank and drain field. Oy. Big $$$. I'll be setting up some sort of hinged baffle to muffle the noise from the MM-1000, and I'm putting some chases in for low voltage wiring so critical sources can be tracked in the entry mud room outside the sound room and mics and headphones can be plugged into the wall, and this will also make easy to get cabling to mic up our piano in the front room. My oldest son is my first "client" once I get this all together. ;)
 
I need a buyer...

This is really kind of heart-breaking but I need to move this mixer to a new home.

It is just sitting here.

Honestly I have too many other projects in which I am more interested, and lately they aren't audio projects...I want to build my girls a playhouse...I need to finish the halfpipe for the boys...its time to open the pool from its Winter slumber, and still lots to do to finish up our remodel from last year. I need to mentally and physically divorce from this project.

I need to move it, so I'm motivated to accept reasonable offers.

What you get:

  • The coolest Tascam 12 x 8 mixer EVER. PERIOD.
  • Exclusive rights...its a one of a kind...an uber rare bit of Tascam transitional history.
  • The mixer is fully functional, master section is fully recapped as are input modules 1 & 2. The entire mixer will be cosmetically refurbished sweetbeats style and will include the caps to completely recap channels 3~12
  • It of course includes the customized PS-520 power supply with interface cable.
  • Wood trim panels will not be completed but you get the gorgeous solid walnut boards to do so yourself. The boards need finish planing; they have been skip-planed.

Not a chance I will ship this thing, but I am willing to drive a significant distance to meet or deliver to a buyer. NOTE: I will be traveling from the mid-willamette valley Oregon to the Seattle/Tacoma area early in June and could pack the M-__ with me.

PM me with questions or any reasonable offers. I ain't gonna give it away but I also need to move on.
 
Well at least that's done...just finished cleaning the knob and switch caps for the ten channels still needing cleaned up. So that's 67 control elements per channel x 10 channels...670 parts...individually scrubbed with a toothbrush. :drunk:

Yee....haw... . . .
 
I really hope you find a good home for this mixer... it's a total sleeper compared to other mixers. If it had 24 channels I'd snap it right outta your hands, Cory :)
 
Thanks, Jeff.

I'll hold out for that good home.

Reminder too that though there are 12 input modules there are 3 inputs per stripwith dedicated trim controls for each, 1 mic amp and two line amps...there are actually 2 additional inputs as well but the 3 I mention are more fully featured. And the kicker is that you can monitor all those inputs simultaneously. Its hard to call it a 12 channel mixer.
 
Reminder too that though there are 12 input modules there are 3 inputs per stripwith dedicated trim controls for each, 1 mic amp and two line amps...there are actually 2 additional inputs as well but the 3 I mention are more fully featured. And the kicker is that you can monitor all those inputs simultaneously. Its hard to call it a 12 channel mixer.

Wait, WHAT? Maybe I'm asking to dance with the devil here, but can you point out specific posts where this is detailed? You've got me really curious, and I'm sure the other readers would benefit from a recap (no pun intended).
 
Well, I don't really dance, and I don't consider myself the devil, so I think you're relatively safe. Just consider what you need and stick to that.

I really want to do, like, a video tutorial before I sell it. This will have to suffice for now.

Here are scans I took of the input module jack plate and dress panel to create cue sheets:

input_module_jack_plate_(small).jpg


input_module_cue_sheet.jpg



If you study those for a bit you can see that:

There are 2 line inputs with their own trim pots.
Those line inputs can be sourced as the channel input, LINE 2 can be sourced to either pair of AUX groups (like the M-500 line input), and furthermore either line input can be sourced on the monitor buss. I'd have to study it a bit more to confirm that you could monitor all 36 inputs at once...I had it figured out at one point...but for now how about a more realistic scenario like 16 tape returns and 12 mics? Okay...Say you've got 12 mics plugged into the 12 channels, and you want to monitor those along with line inputs 1 & 2 on channels 1~8 and be able to have a stereo mix of those 28 inputs...one way to do it is:

  1. Set the channel INPUT switches to MIC
  2. Set the AUX 3/4 source switches on channels 1~8 to LINE 2...the AUX 3/4 controls are setup as LEVEL and PAN on the concentric stacked pot which is nice, so you set your LINE 2 TRIMs, and then set your levels and pans in the AUX 3/4 section. AUXes 3 & 4 are summed at the BUSS MASTER pots at the top of channels 11 & 12, and you can sniff those in the MONI section of those channels...
  3. Set the source select switches in the MONI section of channels 11 & 12 to BUSS...this will send the sum of the LINE 2 sources you picked up in the AUX 3/4 section of channels 1~8 to the MONITOR buss...sweep the PAN of MONI on channel 11 hard L, and the PAN of the MONI on channel 12 hard R...this will maintain the stereo field you setup for LINE 2 inputs 1~8 in the AUX 3/4 sections of those channels.
  4. Set the MONITOR source select switches to LINE 1 on channels 1~8, and set your levels and pans to taste.
  5. Now you have a stereo mix of mic inputs 1~12 on the stereo buss (assuming the channel faders are up and the channels are open), and a stereo mix of LINE 1 inputs on channels 1~8 on the monitor sections of channels 1~8, and a sum stereo mix of the LINE 2 inputs 1~8 via the AUX 3/4 sum on the BUSS MASTER being sourced via the channel 11 & 12 MONI section.
  6. Now, the easiest way to monitor all this is to hit the MONI TO STEREO switches in the monitor sections for channels 1~8 and 11 & 12, which will dump whatever you have sourced in those monitor sections straight to the stereo buss post fader (so you STILL have complete control of your mic mix with the channel faders and channel pans, independent control of those 8 LINE 1 inputs via the monitor section level and pan pots, and independent control of the 8 LINE 2 inputs via AUX 3/4 level and pan pots), and it all gets summed to the master fader.
  7. Over in the master section in the CONTROL ROOM source select switchrack you hit ST (stereo buss) and *bam* you're monitoring all 28 inputs simultaneously...we could easily take that to 32 just by using the LINE 1 and LINE 2 inputs on channels 9 & 10 in the same way.

There are other ways to do it.

Need to apply EQ? You only have 12 EQ sections, okay? One for each strip, BUT, you can select whether that EQ is applied to the INPUT source of the strip, OR the monitor buss of the respective strip! If you didn't need the EQ for the mics on channels 11 & 12 for instance you could hit the EQ MONITOR switches in the EQ sections of channels 11 & 12 and now the EQ section effects the monitor busses on those channels and not the mics sourced by the INPUT switch.

What about if you were wanting to be recording the 12 mics to an 8-track machine at the same time via the 8 PGM groups and wanted to be able to toggle back and forth between your nifty 28 channel mix and the mix of what was going to the 8-track machine? It can easily be done with the punch of one button. I won't go into detail right now but it is done using the REMOTE section of the mixer...wicked powerful tool.

Need quick control of isolating certain sources or muting certain sources? Easy...every frickin' AUX buss, monitor section, PGM group, input source has a solo or mute switch...you can just about pick out what you need to grab at any time.

We haven't even discussed the master section yet...haven't even talked about the EQ section itself with the 4 bands (hi and lo swept peaking bands and two fully parametric mid bands and TWO hi pass filters and one low pass filter...phantom power, phase reverse, pad...flexible metering.

Serious...did you ever have that experience with the M-500 series where you went "Are you serious??" when you got your head around the flexibility and features? The M-__ is a whole new "Are you FREAKING KIDDING?!?!" planet once you start to grasp the features.

Just for fun here are pdf composites of the jack panels and control surface panels:

Backplane
Control Surface
 
Damn - I would totally grab that if you were in Texas. Would you be willing to drive 30 hours to meet me? ;)
 
Maybe some nice glam shots of the completely assembled mixer would help?

Sorry to hear you're selling it. :(

Cheers! :)

The shots wouldn't be glamorous at the moment. Still needs some cleanup. Its still somewhat of a project. Otherwise I wouldn't be asking only $300 for a one-of-a-kind incredibly full-featured mixer.
 
*must resist urge to buy gear, must resist the urge to buy gear....

Someone will have a lot of fun with a unique item!

Id be overly tempted, if only it had 72 inputs.....:cool:
 
*must resist urge to buy gear, must resist the urge to buy gear....

Someone will have a lot of fun with a unique item!

Id be overly tempted, if only it had 72 inputs.....:cool:

Yeah...not quite 72...only half that...
 
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