Studer 928 Story...

This one was easier since it was only interfacing one power supply:

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I will say it was extremely satisfying to, for the first time, thread in the locking rings on the power supply connectors and latch the frame connectors in place…safe and secure.

By comparison here is the set of non-factory umbilicals that came with the console…which have now long since been scavenged and the rest disposed of. Good riddance:

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So, at the bottom of the legs of the Studer 928 are metal brackets. These brackets are intended to be used to anchor the desk to the floor. This is wise because the legs are shaped to afford clearance for knees and chairs, but as a result the desk is a bit front heavy…if not anchored and you stand at the console and lean on the armrest it’ll tip forward…it won’t come crashing down…you’d have to intentionally really lean on it to do that, but who doesn’t like leaning a bit on the armrest of their mixing desk every now and again. Well, I anchored my 928 to the floor. This might seem like a really silly and insignificant update, but to me it is very significant. Time is at an extreme premium to work on my studio build…I have very little time to work on any of this stuff. Plus moving an average of every two years for the past decade hasn’t helped. And the place we’re now in is the first place that has a workable space where everything fits. So…I’ve finally gotten to the point I have the right space, and the 928 is in proper position, and it’s anchored down, and I wanted to include this milestone in this “Story.”
 
You are a paragon of industry Mr Beats!
If anyone else has that equipment stability problem and does not want to fix kit to a floor (tricky say screwing through 'er indoors Persian lamb!) the gear can be bolted to a sheet of 3/4" ply. You could even extend the ply to the front and put hoofs on it. Won't tip up then!

Dave.
 
Hi, new to the forums :) This thread is a monster of information and insight! Mr. Sweetbeats, if only for posterity's sake (and it's evidently very much NOT just for posterity), great job!

I'm currently in talks about getting a 928 myself. It was originally installed at large broadcasting center, and after that was used for the last 15 or so years as a studio tracking and mixing console. The current owner has nothing but praise for the console, and says it never had any faults or showed any sign of sound degradation.
It's a 60 module frame, not all of it occupied. I can't remember how many modules there are in total, but I do remember definitely being able to remove a g 16-module section off it, and still be more than I need for my uses (mainly tracking, probably a bit of mixing too).

How much of a hassle would it be to downsize the frame? It looks like all the sections are ultimately 16 module sections, with the exception of the aluminum elbow rest bar, which looks like it was cut to order. Would this be just a case of (careful) disassembly of the unwanted sections (whole sections, including the IO connections in the back), and reattaching?
 
Short answer, no.

Long answer:

What you have to understand about the 928 (and many Studer consoles) is while it is “modular”, that modularity relates more to the configuration ordered and the manufacturing of the console and much less with ease of reconfiguration in the field. It is quite possible no two 928s are alike, because they were made to order, and the service manual for each is unique with unique wiring diagrams pertinent to the custom configuration ordered by the original customer.

So the one you’re looking at has 60 module slots plus the patchbay, right? If so that means it has four 16-slot “buckets”. Here are the things that make it difficult to just remove a bucket and go on your merry way:

While the total frame is composed of either 12 or 16 slot buckets, or a mix thereof, they are tied together and reinforced with the armrest extrusion you mentioned (which is a custom extrusion), and I think five other full-width extrusions…either all 2020 or maybe a mix of 2020 and 3030. So all of that has to be cut down. That’s the easy part. The more complicated part has to do with the wiring and the motherboards. The standard motherboard assembly supports 12 modules. That’s right. The console frame is made up of 12 or 16 slot buckets or a mix, which support 12 or 16 modules respectively, but the motherboard supports 12 modules. So in your case you likely have five motherboards for the 60 slots…five motherboards…four buckets. It’s like the hot dog and hot dog bun mismatch problem…which means if you remove, say, the left-most bucket (because, trust me, it’s a WHOLE lot less hairy to try and rebuild the whole console as a result of removing from the left than removing from the right if the master section and patchbay are at the right…most consoles have a patchbay at the right…if you have no patchbay and the console is a split configuration with the master section somewhat in the center then you’ve got a choice you can make), you’ll have to move all your motherboards four slots to the right…you get me? You have a motherboard for modules 1-12, and then one for modules 13-24, but remove the bucket for modules 1-16 and you’ll have a four-module tongue of a motherboard sticking out to the left for modules 13-16…so everything has to shift left. But oh wait…you can’t just slide everything to the left because then you’ll have a nightmare of reconfiguring all four motherboards you have left, and that is no small order…more below…but remember the master section is the most complexly configured motherboard. If you can avoid doing anything with that one that’s ideal…like, avoid moving it. So what do you do with the four-module tongue then? A 10” table saw with a new 60-tooth finishing blade works pretty good. I’m serious. And that’s how Studer did it too. Although I imagine they has a nice saw, but you can tell that’s how they did it, because sometimes they ended up requiring only an eight-module or four-module motherboard depending on the configuration ordered. My console is a good example…two 16-slot buckets and a 12-slot bucket…12 mono mic/line input modules, 20 stereo line input modules, 4 mono group modules, and then the 4 modules for the master section, and then 4 slots for the patchbay. The motherboards don’t go under the patchbay. So I’ve got 40 slots worth of motherboard…it’s been a minute since I’ve had the belly opened up on my console but I think I have two full 12-module motherboards and two 8-module boards, which are just 12-module boards cut down with a precision saw. You can see the saw marks on one edge of the board. It’s a nice clean cut, but it was done with a saw. So if you’re still not scared away from the idea of reconfiguring a 928, consider this: the motherboards are mechanically “programmable”…in other words there is only one type of motherboard PCB assembly, and it is designed with all the lands for all the different types of connectors and jumper wires so any motherboard can accommodate any type of module and all the different options that might be fitted; direct outs, dual mic, patchbay or no patchbay, different metering, input or summing module, mono or stereo…all the possibilities are built into a single PCB. This is GOOD news in that the console has the capability to be any configuration you want as long as you have the hardware and know how to “program” the motherboard. You can glean a lot just by looking at what’s there and replicating if you want to change things, but there’s different “stuff” for each different module. Oh and also keep in mind how power is distributed…I don’t know how many power supplies the one you’re looking at has…if it’s a later gen 928 it might be 4? Mine has three. And one might think oh! One supply per bucket! No. My 12-slot bucket is the first one on the left. It holds the 12 mono mic/line input modules. Isn’t that nice and neat. 12 slots, 12 modules, one motherboard, one supply? No. The first power supply powers the first 16 modules…so all of motherboard 1 and the first four modules on motherboard 2 are powered by supply #1. I think that was an engineering decision around power supply capacity and load balancing. This is why it is SO important to have the original manual specific to your 928…it has the roadmap for all the unique wiring. Mine did not have it. This is how important it is to have…years ago I found a 928 manual. It cost me $150. I bought even though it’s not specific to my console. Why? Because it’s chock full of documents you can’t get anywhere from anybody and offers examples for wiring and configuration that can apply to my console. Otherwise I’d be pretty lost. So you chop off the first four channels of your first motherboard. Done. But now yoy are maybe reconfiguring what’s loaded in your first two of three remaining buckets because you’re not just getting rid of the module types that used to be loaded in the former bucket #1. If you’re changing what was loaded originally from mono to stereo input module or vice versa, get ready for more motherboard reconfiguration.

I thought for a long time how badly I wanted a split console…inputs to the left, multitrack returns to the right, master in the middle…mine has all the inputs to the left, then groups, then master. I’ve researched and thought and thought and thought about this…flipped back and forth. I finally settled on just leaving it alone years ago after talking with a trusted and knowledgeable friend. The 928 is an amazing sleeper of a console, and so well designed and built…from the signal path to the structure and the details they thought of that make it reliable and kickass. I don’t want to mess that up. I can still hear my friend: “Leave it alone.” He knows I have a propensity to mess with stuff. I also have opportunity to potentially add a bucket. I thought I might need the extra inputs. But I’ve decided against that too. What I am still planning on doing is trading 4 stereo line input modules for 4 more mono groups, so it’ll be an 8-buss console. One of the great gems of the 928 is the output driver design on the groups and master modules…rare and fancy hybrid opamp transformer design where the transformer is in the feedback loop of the multi-stage opamp driver…higher drive, mitigation of DC offset so less coupling needed…high quality opamps…it sounds awesome. I have a white paper on the circuit design somewhere. So I want more of those since I’m a drummer and would like to be able to track up to 10 channels at once through those outputs (master is the same output driver, just a stereo pair…so that would be used for drum overheads, then 8 mono outs for close mics). The opamp-only outputs on the AUXes and direct outs are still awesome…not your conventional opamp design at all and have lots of drive…expensive opamps, etc. But the mono group and stereo master outs are special. So to do the swap I have to have a group section backplane module, add all the jumpers for the groups on the motherboard, remove the jumpers that configure those slots for stereo line input modules…add the cable runs and power for another 4-channel group meter module up in the bridge…and other stuff.

Hopefully all the above doesn’t make it sound like I’m being critical of the 928. It is my favorite device here in the studio. So smartly designed, so quiet, massive headroom, an amazingly purposeful and useful feature set…I love it. And despite what the haters say, that’s it’s just a rebadged Soundcraft B800 is short-sighted and prejudicial snooty garbage. Every 928 is stamped “Made in Switzerland by STUDER Professional Audio AG”, and I connected with people that worked there at the time and they confirmed the 928 was built in the Studer factory, and while designed in collaboration with Soundcraft, it is clear the physical structure, interconnects, motherboard architecture and circuit design are all Studer lineage. And the Soundcraft variant lacks key features like the Lambda module power supplies, the much fancier mic amp, hybrid output drivers, higher quality Studer metering, etc. Studer kept the good stuff for the 928, the B800 is something of a base model, not nearly as customizable, etc. Still a very good console. But the 928 is superior. I think the sticker price on mine in the year 2000 was around $100,000.

How many mono groups does the one have you’re looking at? Hopefully 8? They are an important part of the console with the hybrid outs, stereo returns and onboard compressor/limiter, which is a gem of its own. Do you know if it was configured with direct outputs? My mono mic/line modules have direct outs but the stereo line modules do not. Of course they can be incorporated…the infrastructure and circuitry is there…it’s all about wiring and connectors.

Do you have pics you can post of the one you’re looking at? I can tell you more about it with pics. Feel free to PM me.
 
I'll start by saying that this doesn't come across at all as criticizing the 928, quite the contrary. If anything, this makes me even more hyped about this purchase.
I admit I have my doubts regarding using a Studer to record modern, highly produced popular music in all of its form. It's a very different approach than the classic Neves, APIs, SSLs, and other classic studio desks, which very intentionally impart a Sound to the material, and Studer seem to be designed with a different mindset, intent on reproducing the most honest and reliable information that you put into it. Quite a change from the Midas preamps I'm using today...
This is of course only part of the equation. I recognize that I can do more with this console in terms of workflow, which in this day and age, I believe matters exponentially more than the gear itself, and of course, reliability over time.
So yeah, anybody who delved into this kind of system, found out how sophisticated it is, and considers it art and not hassle? That's very encouraging to me!

I don't have the manual for the desk, and I don't think it can be located. The current owner (Almo, for future reference) moved with it couple of times, and while he always took care to transfer it properly and with care from place to place, he told me some auxiliary equipment and documentation did get lost, mainly the aforementioned manual, and the mini-dsub insert cables that the console had.
Almo used 3 power supplies with the table, and says that he has 3 more reserve power supplies that he got when he bought the console himself. He never had any reason to use the reserves, and never had any problems with the in-use power supplies.
I very foolishly didn't take any pictures of it when I came to see it a couple of days back, just a video for the rest of my studio co-residents, but I'm very sure she has 8 group modules, the double master unit, crm module, a bunch of stereo input modules, and I think 30 or so mono input modules. Direct outs on all mono input slots, and from what Almo told me (and I don't remember if I saw it myself), so do the stereo input slots. No patchbay...

The thing is that Almo wasn't using a lot of the modules, and so just placed them aside in the console, some of them only sitting above their respective slots just to keep dust from going in. My intention is to remove a 16 bucket which only consists of mono input slots, and not move any of the backplate modules. Every module will go to its designated slot on the console, no reinventions or reordering, apart from removing a 16 slot bucket. Like I said, no patchbay, and the master section is indeed in the center, to the right of the group module slots and the stereo input slots, so theoretically, I could downsize the console from BOTH ends.
Sounds like the motherboard bun-and-hotdog situation will be problematic.. In the worst case scenario, she'll just stay as is. It's not like free real estate in a studio is going to stay free for long anyway, y'know lol.

I'll ask Almo for some more pics and upload them here. The video is apparently too large..
 
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I admit I have my doubts regarding using a Studer to record modern, highly produced popular music in all of its form. It's a very different approach than the classic Neves, APIs, SSLs, and other classic studio desks, which very intentionally impart a Sound to the material, and Studer seem to be designed with a different mindset, intent on reproducing the most honest and reliable information that you put into it. Quite a change from the Midas preamps I'm using today...

I’m going to respectfully disagree with your statement or impressions above. Generally it seems to me people put consoles into two camps: “transparent”, or alternatively something that imparts “color” or “character.” The pool of people using analog consoles has vastly reduced over the years, and the types of installations shifted. Along with this so has the focus of what is preferential. Back in the day, like 1970s (and I go to that decade because that’s when we started to see larger format consoles with control architecture more akin to what we see today…the advent of the “modern console” really boomed starting in the early 1970s…), high-performance opamps and opamps specifically designed for audio were just starting to come around. Their performance specifications paled in comparison to contemporary parts. Transformer coupling was much more prevalent; the more common method of balancing/unbalancing audio signals. As a result those consoles had higher noise, distortion, and other non-linear characteristics…”color.” Having or imparting “color” was not necessarily “intentional”, it’s just the result of what was available technologically. From a music production standpoint, having to grapple with “color” and non-linearities was another variable, and because time was very much money, anything that made production faster was desirable, including removing variables in the production process. So as time progressed through the 1970s, 1980s and into the 1990s as the digital age boomed, there was a consistent push toward “transparency”…input = output…no “color.” This was true of tape machines as well. What was often considered preferential in the 1980s and 1990s was something that imparted no “color”, and what seems to be highly desired presently is something that has “character”, which usually stems from distortion and other non-linearities. In my opinion there is bad character and good character. Something like a vintage Neve console, because it was designed by a genius with less restriction on budget and market bracket, and because very high quality components (including transformers) were procured or fabricated, the character or non-linearities are purposely cultivated toward good sound…designed in a way to promote good outcomes. A budget console with a Tamura transformer is not capable of the same outcome. That’s the mistake I think a lot of people make. Just because a vintage drool-worthy console has transformers does not mean *anything* with a transformer will perform the same way. This is a horridly false assumption. Regarding your examples of console makes that impart a “sound” to the signal (Neve, API, SSL), in my opinion Neve is the only one of those three that is consistently known for that. More generally the “sound” of an API or SSL console is transparent. That’s what they did very well, and were known for, and revered by producers and engineers. Now that doesn’t mean that part of their sound wasn’t characterized by the ability to remain clean/transparent when signals were driven hard or loads at outputs pushed. And that’s a whole other conversation…the one that addresses how a console performs when receiving hot sources, or pushing low impedance loads at high levels. This is one thing that sets truly professional equipment apart from “budget” equipment. Many late 1970s and early 1980s budget consoles used a 4558/4559 opamp to drive outputs…hook that up to a 600R nominal load and it’s going to distort on transients and even likely at nominal levels depending on the program material and if there is prominent LF content it. And the other thing to realize is even with loads that are a higher impedance, a 2Kohm nominal load for instance, isn’t just always 2Kohm…actual load impedance is very complex and dynamic depending on the program content and signal level across the spectrum, etc. So these budget vintage consoles can often be in situations where their design inherently enables higher distortion outcomes. I believe people seeking “vintage color” today generally don’t understand the difference between good and bad distortion, and assume the sound of their 4558/4559 driven outputs crapping out is good “color.” Professional but transparent consoles like the APIs and SSLs of the world have high headroom and drive capability throughout the signal path, and particularly at the summing and output stages. And that *is* good sound…clean, clear sound with a wider dynamic range because of the higher headroom…*distinctly* different than a budget vintage console. They also are much more expensive because the caliber of components and complexity of the circuits used to ensure high headroom throughout the signal path, and EQ circuits that do what they’re intended without negatively shaping the sound. This is not to say somebody might not find their bliss using a budget vintage console (and by “vintage” here I’m referring to that late 1970s to early 1980s era, when the “home recording” market rose up in the marketplace), and there’s certainly a lot that can get done by that bracket of gear, especially if there’s some attention paid to source levels, load impedances, etc…and of course depending on the quality of the performance first, and the mics, mic placement, etc…I’ve heard some *great* music captured using that echelon of gear…but in my personal experience with a number of consoles across many manufacturers, budget brackets, and across a wide chronological time range and in a variety of settings and applications, my opinion is once your ears are exposed to a truly professional console you’ll be forever tainted. I still like what smaller lower budget bracket consoles I have in my collection…I mean, consoles are just fun to operate and each one has unique nuances, but I will never forget my first impressions of the 928 when I actually hooked it up to some monitors and auditioned some program material through it…my intention was to take an hour and just do a comprehensive function test after getting it home…I ended up not getting hardly any of that done and just sat there for hours listening to all sorts of music through it. I just loved hearing stuff that came through it…played with the EQ, the stereo spread circuit, listening to what happened when I completely slammed the output…I remember listening and thinking the experience was so different from anything I’d used before. And then when I tested what happens when you really drive the output I was like”…ssseriously…?” And then with no program playing and just shoving the input and output faders all the way up and cranking the control room level pot and barely hearing any noise…blown away. So I think you’re thinking the Studer is a “transparent” console. In my opinion it sits right in the middle of a “color” console and a “transparent” console. I call it a “good sound” console, and so did Studer…they call that out right in their literature. The whole signal path and circuitry is designed around the objectives of low noise, low distortion, longevity, reliability, high headroom, and…good sound. And because of the VCA summing stages and channel output stages, there is much more accurate tracking with stereo program material. You end up with really great clarity all the way across the frequency spectrum. Bass material is clear and in your face, mids are defined but not harsh, and highs are sweet. There is more clarity to individual sources when placing them in the sound stage and the sound stage is wide because of decreased phase distortion from L to R…so, compared to every other consoles I’ve used, the Studer was like taking the cotton out of my ears. The EQ sounds great and just *works*…it does exactly what you want it to do and expect it to do. And I mentioned the stereo spread filter on the stereo channels…a lot of spatial enhancement circuits use phase inversion tactics to trick the ears into the perception of a greater sound stage. The problem with this is it isn’t mono-compatible…when you sum a stereo signal spatially enhanced using phase inversion techniques the summed signal is often drastically fraught with comb-filtering effects. The Studer circuit is mono-compatible using no phase inversion and really works and it’s all analog…stretches the sound-stage out. It’s a great tool for mixing because it gives you more space in which to place things in the mix. So the console character is simply “good sound” that can be pushed hard and is also extremely pragmatic. I wouldn’t call it transparent. But it’s definitely not dirty. And then when you push those hybrid transformer outputs…the lows and highs stay rock solid clear, but the mid range gets this bite or “hair” around the edges which translates to an edgier cut or presence in the mix. It’s amazing. So don’t be nervous about the 928. It’s perfect. It’s the perfect console for a hybrid recording setting to interface with digital recording or processing equipment because it’s so quiet, but absolutely imparts a number of important signatures on the signals and mix that are helpful to the mix and “sound good”. And it’s also great for interfacing tape machines because it doesn’t have so much “color” it competes with what the tape is doing in that area…let’s the tape do its thing and accurately carries and mixes those signals, but isn’t so transparent that it isn’t there when interfacing your digital recording rig. It’s perfect.

To be continued…
 
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…and of course, reliability over time.

I’ve brought it up a couple times, but the 928 design kept reliability and durability as a priority…high quality components and manufacturing processes, high quality PCB material, high-quality connectors with gold plated contacts, electronic switching for most functions and where not possible or practical they used switches with gold-plated contacts, VCA amp stages that make the “skritchies” impossible at those stages, and if the console you’re looking at is the later generation the power supplies contain very high-quality high-performance off-the-shelf TDK-Lambda power modules…super-slick. And here’s where it gets deep…the voltage of an audio power rail directly equates to that signal path’s headroom. Okay? Just trust me on that. The two are tied together. Many audio power rails are powered by a 15V supply. The only way to increase headroom without increasing the power supply voltage is to employ fancier and more expensive circuits which add components and increase the potential for noise and distortion, unless you use high-quality parts which further adds to the cost, or utilize step-down and step-up transformers. And that’s expensive if you want to maintain high quality sound under varying loads, signal levels and other conditions. All transformers are very much not created equal. The quick and dirty way to increase headroom is to increase the power. That’s why on a lot of consoles we see 17V, 18V and even higher power rails…on up to sometimes 24V on more boutique consoles. I had a very vintage MCI console at one time that had 24V audio power rails. The problem is most opamps aren’t rated to operate above 18V. Some are 20V. But the field gets pretty sparse as you go higher than that. A great way to reduce the life of an opamp rated at 4~18V is to run it at 18V. It also creates more heat and requires more from the power supply. The power seen by the audio opamps in the 928 is close to 12V. Cool. But then you say “Wait…what about the headroom?” Because headroom is directly linked to the power supply voltage. That’s where they went the expensive route and incorporated fancy circuits with high-quality expensive opamps and extremely high-quality Studer transformers incorporated in less common ways to ensure very high headroom throughout the signal path…the 928 isn’t a +4dBu console…it’s a +6dBu console…and you won’t find one carbon film resistor anywhere…all metal film. This helps with the noise floor on top of excellent power regulation and filtering, expensive low-noise opamps; really excellent dynamic range specs. And there are trimmers on each module board to null distortion at multiple points in the signal path. You won’t find that in most consoles. The peak level specs are conservative but they’re really high even at that. So…low power = higher reliability…expensive circuits and components purposes for high-quality and high-level signal handling = high headroom. The 928 has both. They tell you all this stuff in the brochure, but when you study the actual circuit design and build and compare to other designs and builds it’s not at all marketing hype…it’s all very true. They did stuff that was expensive because of the pursuit of excellent performance and reliability. And that’s why these consoles were in the $100,000~$200,000 market bracket when new.

I don't have the manual for the desk…and the mini-dsub insert cables that the console had.

Ohhhhh what a bummer. Well if you get in deep with reconfiguration, which I really want to discourage…like if it’s a matter of not enough space, the value of maintaining the integrity of the console and the complexity of the reconfiguration warrants re-thinking your space. That’s where I’m at. Take a bunch of modules out and make a custom panel to fill the void you use for a laptop or other tabletop devices…keyboard…quasi-producer desk. I think the value of these consoles is going to stay steady or increase over the years because as other analog console offerings become less reliable or inoperative or prohibitively expensive to upkeep because they just weren’t as well-built and designed, and the niche analog console community becomes increasingly aware these consoles just keep going, I think it is important if you ever want to sell the console it is in its original form. My 2 pence. But if you do get deep into reconfiguration I may be able to help or a beastly brilliant friend of mine who’s turned a 5-bucket console into two consoles plus spares…we’ve at least got my full manual. I think I can help with the pinout for the insert dsub connections. That’s a bummer you don’t have those cables. You’re going to need those.

To be continued…
 
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Almo used 3 power supplies with the table, and says that he has 3 more reserve power supplies…

Okay. So the power from the three power supplies spans across the 4 buckets and 5 motherboards. There are probably 2 Tuchel connectors on the backplane for power connections like mine…one power supply goes to one Tuchel connector, and the other two supplies use a ‘Y’ cable that has two of the circular 10-pin Hirose connectors at one end and a single Tuchel connector at the other. Because the console was originally procured for a broadcast operation, they chose to purchase the redundant supply option. So you have three supplies operating the console, and each one has a second supply daisy-chained to the primary supply using a short Hirose to Hirose cascade cable. In the broadcast installment all six supplies would be running, but three would be idle unless there was a failure in one or more of the primary supplies. The switch-over is instantaneous…zero downtime allowed in the broadcast world. That was one reason these consoles were popular in the broadcast world and mobile operations because of their reliability and durability, but they are extremely suitable for multitrack audio production and video production as well as theatre or arena installations. So you’ll want to ensure it comes with the primary cables from the supplies to the console (I assume it does), but also look for the three short cascade cables for the redundant supplies. I’d not run the redundant setup, but keep the second set of supplies as backup. The three supplies together across both audio power rails are capable of driving up to a total of 60A of current…just for the audio circuits…That’s…huge. The console doesn’t ever require anywhere near that, but that is how over-built the power scheme is. Amazing. And they are switching type supplies and able to respond very quickly to transient demands. They are part of the console’s “good sound.”

…Direct outs on all mono input slots, and from what Almo told me (and I don't remember if I saw it myself), so do the stereo input slots. No patchbay...

So, yeah…you’ll need to make up the dsub insert cables to whatever patchbays you use, and if you want to use the direct outs for the stereo line input modules those are on dsub connectors as well, unless the console was configured differently. You’ll notice the backplane jack modules accommodate up to 4 XLR jacks per module, okay? For the mono mic/line input modules that’s usually a mic in, line in, and a direct out and one blank space. If the console has the optional dual mic input then there are two mic input jacks (switch selectable on the control surface), one line input and the direct out, all on XLRs. For the stereo line input modules the standard is you have line A inputs L & R, and line B inputs L & R, switch selectable in the control surface and all on XLRs, and then the direct outs are populated across multiple dsub connectors along the top of the backplane module jack panel. If there is only one smaller dsub connector on each backplane module, that is for remote interface. If there are only line A jacks then the other two jack locations may be configured as direct outs. They’ll be labeled. You just have to look. Also be aware both the mono input and stereo input modules had optional input transformers. The problem with those is they are there for installations requiring ultra high headroom inputs. They are step-down transformers. The standard opamp-based input amplifiers can handle really high levels…they are excellent…but in certain broadcast operations with +8dBu standard levels sometimes that option would be ordered. And if you are running +4dBu or 0dBv levels in your studio you can expect you’ll have to drive those inputs with the transformers pretty hard to get hot signal at input, and that can be a problem for some sources. I have some mono input modules with the optional transformers to drop in in the event I need that step-down buffer. Also be aware typically the aux buss outs, various master section inputs and outputs and other interconnections are on additional Tuchel connectors in the master section backplane. If there are no Tuchel snakes with the console, be prepared for some expense to have those made up or for parts to do it yourself.

…My intention is to remove a 16 bucket which only consists of mono input slots, and not move any of the backplate modules. Every module will go to its designated slot on the console, no reinventions or reordering, apart from removing a 16 slot bucket. Like I said, no patchbay, and the master section is indeed in the center, to the right of the group module slots and the stereo input slots, so theoretically, I could downsize the console from BOTH ends…In the worst case scenario, she'll just stay as is…

Okay so if there’s no patchbay, and there are 60 slots, then it’s possible you have three 16-slot buckets, and one 12-slot bucket. And in that case it is possible you have a situation like mine where the first 12 modules are in one bucket with one 12-module motherboard…this bucket could be removed along with its modules and motherboard. You would still need to cut all the 2020/3030 extrusions down along with the armrest, and you would need to likely rewire the power distribution for all the power supplies to the motherboard, because the power to the left section of the console (which is likely the first 16-20 modules) likely terminates in that first motherboard you would be removing. And it is not advised to just not use that first power supply…and you’d have to figure out how to bring power to modules 13-16 or 13-20 anyway. So you have to thoughtfully redistribute the power terminations across the remaining motherboards. Again, consider carefully the notion of hacking up the console.

Also, I’m not sure I’m understanding you…you said the master section is in the center, but you also said “…and the master section is indeed in the center, to the right of the group module slots and the stereo input slots…” which reads like the master section is all the way to the right. Can you confirm there are input modules to the right of the master section? And if so roughly how many?

I'll ask Almo for some more pics…The video is apparently too large..

I’ll PM you my email address so you can email the video.
 
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