Reason for using Reason

[Fieva]

Basically with Reason Adapted, you cannot use any refills other than the demo Factory Sound Bank and Orkester Bank. It's very limited, but the full version is great.

 

[chalin27]

The point I was trying to make which I guess was missed is if it's comes with pro tools their is no way it can be considered a toy program.

 

[Fieva]

Yeah I missed that point...but it was a good point.

 

[Dfyant]

i use the Korg microKONTROL.
works great. Reason 3 recognized it instantly.
it also has pads which are great for using with the redrum.

EDIT: the keys are smaller, which took some getting used to. but after a few days with it, it was no problem. i actually prefer the small keys now.

I also have a MicroKontrol but for some reason, I've been having problems with it showing up in Reason 3.0 on my desktop. It shows up on my laptop but when I try to use it on my desktop, under the Korg dropbox, it just shows the "Midi Keyboard w/controls, Midi Keyboard, etc.". I'm running them both off the same external hard drive so I don't think it's the program. Any ideas about what I'm doing wrong?

 

[djdownload]

Yo guys, I started out using Reason 1.0. It was the biggest learning curve. for most people, if you can't do something right away within an hour or so, they shit-can it and say it sucks. I kinda did the same thing but I knew It was far better than I was thinking. It took me about a year to start it up again and figure it out. i started doing club/dance beats and then moved onto hip hop style beats. Being a drummer for many years, I didn't like the robotic like sounds and unrealistic feel I was getting, not to mention, how hard it is to play drums on a pad or keys. anyway, I kept with it and started with the hip hop to try and generate a sound like I hear on the radio or commercial type hip hop. The reason was to see if this little program can keep up with the big boys. Well, it took me about 2 months to create many different styles and learn how to layer drum sample (kick snare etc) into a full sound beat. Anyhow, here are some samples to listen to. Please give me some feedback as I have only tried the hip hop beats for a few months. Now I am producing tracks that sell at least 2-4 a day everyday.

One of my very first attempts at a beat with reason (lame!)
SAMPLE #1

After about 3 days, i got something like this: (still lame but better)
SAMPLE #2

Then I added some strings and guitar (stock sounds) and it got better. Listen through to end for all strings.
SAMPLE #2-2

Now I think the tracks have way more life. Reason's potential is more than any other soft synth I've played with for the money.

This is what I get after about 6 months on reason 1.0 and 1 month on Reason 3.0
SAMPLE #3

SAMPLE #4 (lo-fi sample)

SAMPLE #5

The best many I spent. Cost less than 1/5 of what my korg was and I can create many more custom sounds way faster.

Can you guys please post some samples of your work in reason (any version) and post what version/refills used. We would all like to hear something I'm sure.

Please post some feedback about those lame beats above too. Good or bad, all comments are welcome. Thanks R Johnson

 

[Fieva]

Yo djdownload,

It took me about 3 solid months experimenting with Reason 1.0 and making styles of different hip-hop/rap beats. I'd seen it in use before I used it so I knew what it was capable of. Being that I feel more comfy with keys, I tend to make all my drums on my oxygen pad. Got rid of most of my keyboards after I got good with Reason, but that's a good thing. It's been some years and every beat for the most part outdoes my last one (at least in my opinion). Makes me wonder, what will Propellerheads do next for Reason 4 (or 3.5 if they go that route)?

Fie.

 

[92_]

It's nice to see that this post still lives & breathes on the forum

I'm gonna be frank here...you can still be R Johson though hehe

It's obvious that you've been stepping up your game throughout your learning curve here. Very audible if you listen to sample 1, skip the rest and then listen to the last sample. It's a world of difference. That's good.
You should work a bit more with the beats though. In my ears they're not "there" yet if you know what I mean. You've got some advantages though. You've been playing drums so that means you've got some knowledge about programming them and so forth.
Work a bit more with post (post process) on your beats. Tweak the bump&sheen out of them with some compression (multiband compressor if you have one), stereospread them or use some creative paning to fill out the track, can't go wrong with a tad of an exciter either to bring out the sheen and clarity of the beats. This ofcourse depends on what sound your looking for.

I've checked out your site as well. This bothers me though...
Ain't nothing wrong about selling your beats for 20 but your site set up is way too rip off man...this is wannabe modernbeats. Don't take it personal, I just get aggrivated of people who take the simple way out...replicating others. Be more creative with your site lay up, don't try to be moderbeats...rid yourself of the modernbeats audiotag you've copied, change the opening beat (shit's kinda like the modernbeat thing, it's to similiar man), change your sites' appearance to something that reflects your stuff/you better.



This is made in R3 quickPost in SX to unify the snippets volume and punch

I've used some different refills here. Most of the synth stuff I've programmed myself, some beats are samplebased/chopped & screwed, drums are layered and flipped to my liking and there's the help of different refills.



Fieva: R4...how about a new sampler with some more knobs on it? Sort of like Inntakt inside of R4, that would really tickle my pickle. The ability to relocate hitpoints inside of Reason would help. I would like to have some audiolanes as well. Nothing fancy, just something that can give a visual guidance as to how the samples are lining up. Anyways, I've got tons of suggestions about R4 hehe


-Nito

 

[Fieva]

Fieva: R4...how about a new sampler with some more knobs on it? Sort of like Inntakt inside of R4, that would really tickle my pickle. The ability to relocate hitpoints inside of Reason would help. I would like to have some audiolanes as well. Nothing fancy, just something that can give a visual guidance as to how the samples are lining up. Anyways, I've got tons of suggestions about R4 hehe


-Nito

I could agree with a new sampler...that sure beats everybody asking for Reason to go audio and midi (or asking for vst)...Propellerheads won't ever do it...they make too much money advertising Reason with Cubase, Pro Tools, and all the other recording software programs that offer Reason Adapted on them.

As far as suggestions, I couldn't even think of any. Whatever they decide to throw in the next one, I'll experiment with, use, and take my beats to the next level.

 

[djdownload]

You should work a bit more with the beats though. In my ears they're not "there" yet if you know what I mean. You've got some advantages though. You've been playing drums so that means you've got some knowledge about programming them and so forth.
Work a bit more with post (post process) on your beats. Tweak the bump&sheen out of them with some compression (multiband compressor if you have one), stereospread them or use some creative paning to fill out the track, can't go wrong with a tad of an exciter either to bring out the sheen and clarity of the beats. This ofcourse depends on what sound your looking for.

Sample 3 doesn't get more "creative stereo panning"?
I processed every channel to give it serious separation. I think it sounds better than most I've heard but that my opinion. Did you hear number 3?

#4 is a lo-fi mono sample, buy I wanted to show the other elements in the track like guitar and stuff. But it's in mono.

I've checked out your site as well. This bothers me though...
Ain't nothing wrong about selling your beats for 20 but your site set up is way too rip off man...this is wannabe modernbeats. Don't take it personal, I just get aggrivated of people who take the simple way out...replicating others. Be more creative with your site lay up, don't try to be moderbeats...rid yourself of the modernbeats audiotag you've copied, change the opening beat (shit's kinda like the modernbeat thing, it's to similiar man), change your sites' appearance to something that reflects your stuff/you better.

I like the "Modern Beats" sound. I like the tight beats they have and thats actually what I'm looking to achieve. As for the site, I created that myself and I don't think it looks anything like modernbeats site at all. Nor does it function like it either. Please let me know what you mean by "copied". I am a seasoned graphic/web designer (8 yrs). It's my full time business. I do not "copy" other designs.

And the audio tag?? Every site has it, and I use it just like the rest. I don't feel there is anything wrong with it. Your sample has it as well so why do you think I should remove it?

My site is working for me. I made a money this weekend and I want to know why you feel that way about the site/style etc. Please elaborate.

Don't take my reply negative, as I am not mad I just want to know why you feel that way. Your opinions are greatly appreciated. I take them all in with a positive attitude.

 

[jibran]

Yeah I agree...you either got it or you don't, but you know most of the beats I hear on soundclick are remixes, actual mainstream songs, pretty good, or using sampled loops and acting like it was done from scratch.

I don't think looping samples is a good way to make beats but sometimes, you'll come upon a loop SO dope that you HAVE to use it (this happened to me recently, I got an album that had a stunning instrumental break with Middle Eastern instruments.) Obviously, I didn't straight loop it, I applied filters, changed tempo, layered sounds, etc. to "make it work." I'm gonna post that ish soon.

 

[jugalo180]

Sample 3 doesn't get more "creative stereo panning"?
I processed every channel to give it serious separation. I think it sounds better than most I've heard but that my opinion. Did you hear number 3?

#4 is a lo-fi mono sample, buy I wanted to show the other elements in the track like guitar and stuff. But it's in mono.



I like the "Modern Beats" sound. I like the tight beats they have and thats actually what I'm looking to achieve. As for the site, I created that myself and I don't think it looks anything like modernbeats site at all. Nor does it function like it either. Please let me know what you mean by "copied". I am a seasoned graphic/web designer (8 yrs). It's my full time business. I do not "copy" other designs.

And the audio tag?? Every site has it, and I use it just like the rest. I don't feel there is anything wrong with it. Your sample has it as well so why do you think I should remove it?

My site is working for me. I made a money this weekend and I want to know why you feel that way about the site/style etc. Please elaborate.

Don't take my reply negative, as I am not mad I just want to know why you feel that way. Your opinions are greatly appreciated. I take them all in with a positive attitude.

the site is very very creative to me homey. keep up the good work player.

 

[peritus]

I know for a fact that there's alot of people out there that's doggin' Reason, "it's an amateur program" and all of that shit...

See, I had a theory about that. The idiots i speak of is more than likely the ones to stupid to understand the fact that your music won't get all that great if you do whatever everybody else does...They've probably cracked open their recent purhase in hopes for a packed sample library with top knotch shit. It ain't like that...and here's finally something to prove my point. No body will listen to a guy like me from a remote place like where I live, but the guy in this link will probably make you thing twice about shooting off your mouth and turning down a great program. Oh...and my point being...It's "just" a sequencer, you need to fetch the samples and develope your own sound...cause everybody else with Reason has all the samples you have...and please grow a brain as well.

Tommy Coster on Reason

-Nito

I could really care less if someone "thinks" Reason works or that the sounds are good/bad... This isn't a magazine....

 

[Dfyant]

I also have a MicroKontrol but for some reason, I've been having problems with it showing up in Reason 3.0 on my desktop. It shows up on my laptop but when I try to use it on my desktop, under the Korg dropbox, it just shows the "Midi Keyboard w/controls, Midi Keyboard, etc.". I'm running them both off the same external hard drive so I don't think it's the program. Any ideas about what I'm doing wrong?

Nobody else has had this problem? If anybody has a solution or any tips at all, please reply

 

[92_]

Dj download.

It's good you don't take my feed as "negative-ism", cause it's not meant that way.

I don't beef with the modernbeats thing, shit, they've got some good shit there...On a personal level I'm more the kinda guy that wants my shit to me mine...I want to develope something that's purely mine. I get inspired by other things/people/music and so forth, but then I go at it and create something that I feel surpasses that, in my ears atleast. By all means, don't remove the audio tag...it's just that yours is exactly like modernbeats...90% similar atleast. If this is working for you, it's all good, but I merely wanted to suggest my humble opinion. I'm not a hater, but I know that it's not a good idea to give haters reasons to hate on you. In your example, the modernbeats sound and feel...keep doin' your thang, cause you're obviously on something good here. Just take the feed and do what you want about it. You've got heat in some of your productions, so why not use that same creativity and skills to make an audiotag that is more you? Just a suggestion.

-Nito

 

[jesterscourt]

I just purchased Reason 3.0, should I be purchasing sound bank expansions already?

 

[jugalo180]

I just purchased Reason 3.0, should I be purchasing sound bank expansions already?

it depends on your creativity. you can do a lot with the sounds that come packed with reason with the stock sounds and or designing your own sounds with the Malstrom and the Subtractor. I have a free Reason refill you can download from my site and i believe beatmakers has some refills on his site also.

 

[50cal]

92...i cant beleive I wasted 3 minutes of my life with your rant and rave about reason...the best you could come up with was the link to the reason page where they are promoting it(Like they gonna say anything negative.) I could respect that some just wann do it a different way then everyone else..but how can that be when there are so many using reason..(mostly un professional) I say mostly.cause equipment isnt gonna make you a better beat maker..some equipment may ease the creative processes by having features that make things faster...But there are alot of misguided souls on this forum.when looking at tools to make beats and comparing them to each other..its not as simple as just looking at the specs....Im not gonna say you cant use this and shouldnt use that..if you like using reason and arent limited cool....But as a beatmaker you are limiting yourself by using an all in one...each piece of equipment has its own sound and character....sampling isnt as simple as how much sampling time....you can sample in reason and sample the same in an asr10..sample the same thing on an mpc60, same thing on an sp1200..same thing on a mpc 4000.....make a simple drum pattern and quantize on each machine with same swing..and each will sound different and have a different swing/feel......also when you see these sample c.ds that have sounds of the motif and triton etc...it aint gonna be the same...it may be good enough to use in what you are doing..but it wont be the same..

AND if we gonna keep it real...majority of those who use fruity loops and reason is not cause those programs are hotter then fish grease....no one walks in the local Guitar center with a couple of Gz in they pocket and pass the mpc....and such and say "HEY CUZ" ...'where is the fruity loops"....lets call it what it is...its a budget studio in a box...made for the non professional beatmaker...dont get me wrong..there are some who are makin a living using it...but with songs like laffy taffy go out of style...then those using reason and fruity loops are gonna have to step it up.....I can usually spot a fruity loop beat and reason beat...again that dont mean you cant make a hit with reason or fruity loops......but you can make a beat with hammers saws,buckets,bolts..etc..seen it done and they ran it through a neve board and it was hot...
so 92 what do you have to add besides a quote from the maker of reason or someone who is endorsed by reason...

 

[Kevlar]

Reason is nasty

I think reason is a great program. Anyone who talks shit about i doesn't know any better. The same mo fuckers put out wack out beats adn bash fruity but couldn't believe the shit people make with fruity loops.

 

[jibran]

Yeah, 50cal, you're absolutely right.

I cosign to the fullest that 9th Wonder, Marley Marl, and the Beastie Boys are "non professional beatmaker" (btw, plurals usually have an 's' at the end, like 'beatmakers") That was sarcastic, in case you're too stupid to notice.

Just shut the fuck up, you have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[50cal]

Yeah, 50cal, you're absolutely right.

I cosign to the fullest that 9th Wonder, Marley Marl, and the Beastie Boys are "non professional beatmaker" (btw, plurals usually have an 's' at the end, like 'beatmakers") That was sarcastic, in case you're too stupid to notice.

Just shut the fuck up, you have no clue what you're talking about.

Im glad you have your spell check on. you probably still write your name in crayons punk .But being the english scholar you are didnt you comprehend when I said mostly un profesional?Im glad you named drop.If you think marley marl and beastie boys exclusivley use these programs then your not so bright...then again you probably subscribe to scratch magazine and know it all...and would beleive everything you read..I dont know what Im talking about...what you dont know would fill an entire library full of books.This is a forum....I stated my opinion...of course Ive been playin around makin beats since around 86...Ive fucked with almost any piece of equipment you can think of.....I guess i dont know what Im talkin about. tell me what is so great about reason....what besides it being inexpensive would make any one want to use it...the sounds are thin(yeah you can tweak) but It still sounds to clear...fruity loops is even worse......Again light brite..im not saying that you cant make a beat with it but...if you like makin beats with a mouse...go head...