Milnoque
Resident Curmudgeon
I have never argued that the neck through design provides better sustain. I agree with you on that point. I was just trying to understand how a set neck could be more rigid.
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
why would it not?
muttley600
Banned
Take a length of timber. Flex it length ways. Cut a half lap joint in the centre and glue it with tight bond original.. Flex it and tell me what you find.
muttley600
Banned
Because of the reasons I have stated. Now if you'd like to come up with some reasons why it might this conversation may move on. If not, enjoy the rest of your day.
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
sorry man .... I forgot you are "he who must not be disagreed with".
I'm genuflecting towards you man ........ it's always ONLY the way you say it is ...... sorry I forgot to be properly deferential.
muttley600
Banned
You ain't disagreeing with me. You are disagreeing with physics.
I take it you have no reasons why it might? Seriously I couldn't give a fuck if you agree with me or not. As I said wanting it to be the case doesn't make it so no matter how much you want it to be or how much you disagree with me.
Milnoque
Resident Curmudgeon
As I remember from 10th grade shop class there will be no real difference. The rigidity seemed the same. With ten examples four broke with the glue joint partially involved. We did not have test equipment for accurate measurements. Let's just move on.
Milnoque
Resident Curmudgeon
I have a preference for mahogany over maple as a neck wood. I would be interested in a non-traditional substitute for either of the two. Do you have any suggestions for woods that you've worked with for the neck that I should consider? I mentioned black limba earlier in the thread. English walnut seems a likely candidate. Can we put some options on the table for discussion?
Is neck through construction a settled issue? As I said earlier I like both set necks and neck throughs. I much prefer either to bolt-on.
Is neck through construction a settled issue? As I said earlier I like both set necks and neck throughs. I much prefer either to bolt-on.
CMunch
Well-known member
It came apart, should I have waited for the glue to dry?
crazydoc
Master Baiter
How about alder? It's cheap, I've got lots of it, and it's not completely unheard of: CarvinWorld.com - Guitars, Amplifiers & Pro Audio
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stevieb
Just another guy, really.
Wow. I came back to this thread to say that it must be me, but these "build a guitar" threads just go so long I lose interest way before they wear themselves out- and I find the usual "I'm smarter than you are" crap, all over again.
(Sigh.)
(Sigh.)
CMunch
Well-known member
It's not you dude, this thread was destined to fail, in the cave.
multi has a piss poor attitude and I think only one HR user believed this thread was really about designing a guitar.
multi has a piss poor attitude and I think only one HR user believed this thread was really about designing a guitar.
muttley600
Banned
Sorry to disappoint you? Maybe if you'd contributed your thoughts this thread may have moved on a little further.
muttley600
Banned
It's not you dude, this thread was destined to fail, in the cave.
multi has a piss poor attitude and I think only one HR user believed this thread was really about designing a guitar.
Cockmunch you are laughable, just to place this in perspective and throw a few home truths at you.
I started this thread after chatting about it with charter. She renamed it and stickied it.
I started it because I'm on crutches for an extended period and cant get on in the workshop as a result.
I started it because I thought some people here may have found it interesting.
I don't really care what you think the motives were or are. Why should I?
Now on to the home truths about you.
It is you your attitude that is poor. It is you that have contributed nothing to this thread except attempt to derail and mock it. Why?
Because you are typical of a number of members here that post regularly but post nothing of worth. I'm going to guess that you originally signed up here to find the answer to some question or other because you had an idea that you'd quite like to do some recording. Maybe you wanted to check out some opinions on a piece of kit you were thinking of buying. Having got that info you then proceed to do fuck all about it for the next 2 years losing site of the reason you came here in the first place, Instead you spend nearly all your free time posting negative stuff wherever you can. Why is this cockmunch?
Seriously a quick scan of you activity in the OT boards over the last few months shows that the vast majority of your posts have been negative and deliberately antagonistic. Most of them appear in this thread. Prior to that just about every post is a one line off the cuff needless comment of some sort. You need to refocus cockmunch you have completely lost sight of what and why.
Check out your post history..and you think my attitude is poor.
You don't bug me cockmunch you never will because as it stands you don't count. Falling out with Lt. bugs me because he is a decent guy with a proven track record and loads of worth to contribute here. I'm pretty sure me and him will pick it up along the way if we want to. You on the other hand will continue as you are I'm sure. Good luck..
muttley600
Banned
Will get back to you soon mate. In the process of taking this elsewhere for those that want to continue. Hang in there I'm not about to ditch it because of one dick head. The new home will be invite only..
Milnoque
Resident Curmudgeon
To the school kids:
The thread IS about designing a guitar. When you grow up you will understand that this is how a committee process works. The sidebar discussions are about whatever interests us as we go along. This is as it should be. You may go back to your spitballs now.
To Muttley,
You can move the thread if you want to, but I din't think it's necessary.
The thread IS about designing a guitar. When you grow up you will understand that this is how a committee process works. The sidebar discussions are about whatever interests us as we go along. This is as it should be. You may go back to your spitballs now.
To Muttley,
You can move the thread if you want to, but I din't think it's necessary.
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
nah ..... just go on with it.
I'm still pretty interested to see what comes out of it. It was looking like something I would buy if I did something besides play music for a living.
But if I was gonna get one of Muttleys' gits I could maybe afford a cigar box instrument but whatever we end up with here will be something i can only lust for.
Too bad ........ I'd love to have a Muttley.
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
ya' know ...... I will apologize for my role in distracting the thread.
I'm just in a mood about life in general and, in particular, arguing with people about stuff.
What I should have said, instead of being a smartass, was that muttley and I might just be destined to not agree about this.
But even more specifically, I'm not sure there can even be a definitive answer to our disagreement. Vibration and transmission of same is pretty complex and because of woods nature .... it can behave in unpredictable ways.
Ultimately I really respect and like muttley and I regret giving any other impression.
That doesn't mean I'm always gonna agree and it doesn't mean I'll just bend over and accept his word as biblical and inerrant. That's probably hubris on my part but I tend to keep my own opinions of things in a lotta situations.
No one should probably take my opinion over muttleys but sometimes I will and that's just the way it goes.
Now back on track ...... let's get this guitar designed that I'll want and not be able to have.
I'm just in a mood about life in general and, in particular, arguing with people about stuff.
What I should have said, instead of being a smartass, was that muttley and I might just be destined to not agree about this.
But even more specifically, I'm not sure there can even be a definitive answer to our disagreement. Vibration and transmission of same is pretty complex and because of woods nature .... it can behave in unpredictable ways.
Ultimately I really respect and like muttley and I regret giving any other impression.
That doesn't mean I'm always gonna agree and it doesn't mean I'll just bend over and accept his word as biblical and inerrant. That's probably hubris on my part but I tend to keep my own opinions of things in a lotta situations.
No one should probably take my opinion over muttleys but sometimes I will and that's just the way it goes.
Now back on track ...... let's get this guitar designed that I'll want and not be able to have.
T
theD1CKENS
*insert clever title here
I'm still pretty interested to see where this guitar will end up, too. it's slow going, but there are a few good ideas getting kicked around, with several good opinions to support them.
are we still deciding on chambered vs. solid body? I vote solid, for the sake of being a more solid guitar. I like rugged guitars that don't feel fragile
neck wood? I have no opinion til I hear some more members' opinions, but I'm leaning towards mahogony
are we still deciding on chambered vs. solid body? I vote solid, for the sake of being a more solid guitar. I like rugged guitars that don't feel fragile
neck wood? I have no opinion til I hear some more members' opinions, but I'm leaning towards mahogony
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
I've always felt that mahogany necks were too flexible leading to tuning issues.
But I don't actually know ..... I suppose I've attributed tuning problems with 'bendy' mahogany necks but it may actually be as stiff as maple and the tuning issues were from other things.
Muttley?