Do you really buy that expensive recording software?

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Do you buy that expensive recording software, or just download it?(Read authors post)

  • I buy it. I like to support the creator.

    Votes: 564 41.2%

  • I download it. To hell with the creator.

    Votes: 305 22.3%

  • I do both. I have mixed feelings on the subject.

    Votes: 501 36.6%
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The Never ending post!!!!

sorry i just wanted to be a part of it...

Fubar rules.
 
None of the above.

I use Linux, and all the software I use is free, as in freely available. That being said, I do try to support the software authors in the various ways that they request, to the best of my ability.

The two Windows sound apps I used to use were bought.
 
I develop software for a living. If you use cracked software for any purpose than an evaluation it is just theft.
 
Cracked Apps will never replace lawfully purchased programs. ANY professional studio needs to have the option of calling up Steinberg, Emagic, Digidesign, whoever in case of a problem. Cubase, Protools, Sonar are all designed for pro use, so I can't see pirates having a huge effect there. VST FX plugins and VSTi are probably a bigger problem since they are small, simple and usually dont require tech help.

Im not saying its moral to copy at all though.
 
If you want the tool, you should buy the tool.

There really are way too many great low buck/no buck programs out there to justify stealing software, it's just greed and lazyness on the part of the thief, they say they just can't afford it, but they do have a computer, along with one or more mics, and other instruments as well, mic pre's, maybe even a mixer..

They don't "just" want to record their music, if that was the case, they would have bought one of the many programs that can be had for 150 bucks or less, they want the top shelf stuff, and don't feel like paying for it, simple as that.

It's pretty ironic that people who make music will dismiss the idea of intelectual property and copyright laws quite so easily.
 
I wasn't justifying it at all. I was simply saying that market-wise, vst plug-ins are probably a larger source of revenue loss than actual recording/sequencing programs like Cubase or Samplitude.
 
Another good point - I would imagine a lot of people feel "less guilty" for having little programs instead of big expensive ones.

"Steal a pack of gum?" "Sure!"

"Steal a car?" "Of course not! I'm no thief!"

John -
 
gum...get passed the detector and your home free.....car....grand theft auto, requires gas to keep running and the potential of getting your face seen on the next episode of cops is way to high. as for wanting the most expensive stuff...notariety is the key there....if more people start saying " man that shareware program is the shit! I use it for everything!" then that may lure the bandwagon home recorder (monkey see, monkey do) but i doubt i'd see blue bear or massive master throw away their studioware for ntracks or something of the like. as for the people who download cracked software cause they can...they have too much time and probably wont amount to much in life anyway
 
What I was getting at was if it's a pack of gum or a car, it's still theft.

Sort of like...

GUY: "Would you sleep with me for a million dollars"

GIRL: "Sure!"

GUY: "Would you sleep with me for ten dollars?"

GIRL: "Hell no! What kind of girl do you think I am?"

GUY: Well, we've already established what kind of girl you are - Now we're just negotiating price..."
 
lion_tone,

My post was in no way directed at your statement, I was just stating my view on the subject in general.. :)

Massive Master,

That last one was pretty funny!
 
I know it wasn't directed at me. My point behind that is it is especially easy to aquire VST/DX plugs.

Let's say some dude just spent $400+ on a brand new sequencer program, just to find out all the included reverbs are junk(sound familiar?). Really, whats the first think he's going to do? I would say load a crack VST reverb/FX.

You also have to think about the file size issue. Not everyone has a cable modem. There are 3-4MB VST/DX effects plug-ins that run into hundreds of dollars. Compared to 100+ MB for sequencing softwares.

I think $-to-MB, VST and VSTi's are a much, much larger source of revenue loss. Let's say a dude even went do far as to Steal the Sequencer AND the Vsts. You're talking $600-700 for an Editor/sequencer, and THOUSANDS in Waves, NI, and other plugs.

Stealing is stealing, but I'd be willing to bet that Native Instruments and Waves get hit harder than Steinberg, or Cakewalk.
 
Moonrider said:
None of the above.

I use Linux, and all the software I use is free, as in freely available.
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What software do you use on Linux? I dual-boot win2k and Fedora, but the only audio software I use on Linux is CDParanoia Csound, and Audacity (Csound and Audacity both run on Mac and PC too). I haven't looked for a while...is there anything like N-Tracks, Sonar, Acid or FruityLoops that runs on Linux?
 
sparadiddle said:
What software do you use on Linux? I dual-boot win2k and Fedora, but the only audio software I use on Linux is CDParanoia Csound, and Audacity (Csound and Audacity both run on Mac and PC too). I haven't looked for a while...is there anything like N-Tracks, Sonar, Acid or FruityLoops that runs on Linux?
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If you want to see everything that's available, check out http://linux-sound.org/

This site's the most comprehensive list for linux audio apps out there.

Since you're already running Fedora, you'll probably want to check out PlanetCCRMA, which is what I have running on top of RH9 on my system.

Currently, most of my work gets done with:

Ardour - multitracking audio recorder
Rosegarden - MIDI sequencing/composition/notation
QSynth - softsynth that uses GM and GS soundfonts
Hydrogen - programmable drums a la Fruity Loops.
 
i steal pretty much 100% of the software i use, not speaking of audio utilities only, but in general. i will definitely buy a program as soon as it helps me to make money through it, sure thing, because THEN it actually serves a purpose. but when its just me fucking around at home with editing my stupid video clips (or whatever else).. i mean i could as well not do that, it would not matter. but when i can get the software for free i will of course take advantage of that if it's for hobby purposes. if i couldnt get them for free i would definitely not buy them because i wouldnt have the money - so either way the company would get the equal support from me: none.

by having me using their software for free it can even b an advantage for the company, because if i'm good at what i do for a hobby i could become a professional, and certainly would pay for their software once i use it for my work..

makes sense doesnt it?
 
Moonrider said:
If you want to see everything that's available, check out http://linux-sound.org/

This site's the most comprehensive list for linux audio apps out there.

Since you're already running Fedora, you'll probably want to check out PlanetCCRMA, which is what I have running on top of RH9 on my system.

Currently, most of my work gets done with:

Ardour - multitracking audio recorder
Rosegarden - MIDI sequencing/composition/notation
QSynth - softsynth that uses GM and GS soundfonts
Hydrogen - programmable drums a la Fruity Loops.
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Thanks. I was running RH 7 on an old laptop and I had a lot of trouble getting a few things to run. I just recently got a new laptop and Fedora core 1, so I'll check it out.
 
ron82 said:
i steal pretty much 100% of the software i use, not speaking of audio utilities only, but in general. i will definitely buy a program as soon as it helps me to make money through it, sure thing, because THEN it actually serves a purpose. but when its just me fucking around at home with editing my stupid video clips (or whatever else).. i mean i could as well not do that, it would not matter. but when i can get the software for free i will of course take advantage of that if it's for hobby purposes. if i couldnt get them for free i would definitely not buy them because i wouldnt have the money - so either way the company would get the equal support from me: none.

by having me using their software for free it can even b an advantage for the company, because if i'm good at what i do for a hobby i could become a professional, and certainly would pay for their software once i use it for my work..

makes sense doesnt it?
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lol i can see your point......i do agree that its a weak argument....thats like stealing cars for fun but after i make enough money stealing cars then I'll buy one from a dealership.
 
Since I'm not a professional musician I shouldn't really have to pay all that money for a Les Paul should I ? I mean it's only a hobby, so it's really ok if I steal one. Who could that possibly hurt ?

That makes sense, no ?
 
Tell ya what, Ron82. E-mail me a recording of all your songs and the lyrics. I'll publish 'em under my name and if I make any money off of 'em I'll send you some bucks.

Makes sense doesn't it?
 
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