Hueseph said:
Instead of a difficult piece played half heartedly
Thank you hueseph. That phrase is well crafted and holds a musical secret, I think. The word “difficult” so often seems to be used to mean technically or musically complex, but IMO it has to do more with the performer’s level of ease in handling that complexity. Anyway, it’s an issue that as a teacher I think about a lot so I appreciated your comment.
Dogman said:
How does it sound panned closer? Does it sound a bit bunched up?
Yes that’s how it sounded to me when panned closer. I probably should have used different gtrs for the parts for differentiation in a realistic soundstage. But I’m going to experiment with the panning a bit and see how it might work with them a little closer in. Thanks Ed.
Garry said:
I think it would be very interesting to bring the two tracks more to the centre - one a little more than the other - then use some very delicate reverb to recreate a live room effect. Left channel reverb return on the Right panned guitar delayed by about 10ms (=10 feet) and so on. There is great potential for some psychoacoustics on this track
Interesting… more things to try out tomorrow. Thanks Garry for the careful listening and thoughtful ideas.
Jack said:
Playing with N-track and listening with my headphones, the best results I have is with a panning at 45%
Jack thanks… you’re right at where my panning taste usually is… around 10 and 2 o’clock are what I usually like for duets. Something about the low end of these tracks tended to build up more than usual when both were closer to the middle – maybe it was the gobos I was using to reduce reflections. Or maybe it was just my ear last night, heh-heh. That’s why more ears are better.
Incanus said:
The R guit is more sparse than the constantness (is that a word?) of the L guit. So at times it seems like the whole piece is coming from the Left speaker only (or mostly).
YES! That’s one of the difficult issues with duets like this where one gtr comes and goes while the other stays, and “constantness” is the perfect word. Valuable advice. Thanks, wise Wizard. BTW if you PM me, I'll be happy to send you one of my CDs. A second BTW: A Friday Night in San Francisco is one of my all time favorite albums.
Metalhead said:
it adds a certain sort of intimacy to each respective guitar, if that makes any sense. It sort of pulls my attention one way then the other which somehow adds it's own point of interest
Along with the low end issue, that was one of my thoughts in keeping the parts farther apart. Things sound so detailed when they’re separated… Thanks for the perspective metalhead.
NL5 thanks for the listen and comments.
I’m going to do work on a narrower mix and post it tomorrow. Thanks, my friends, for the objective ears.
EDIT: FattMusiek, you must have posted as I was writing... The reverb idea's one I'll try. There was almost none on it so far (not counting the delay)... Putting the gtrs closer and creating a nice room for them with a bit of verb might be just what it needs. Thanks Matt.
Tim