Yorkville YSM-1P's versus Behringer Truth B2031

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Hi folks,

I've recently been in the market for a new set of 'active' monitors for my small home studio....and not wanting to really spend more than about approx $1000 Cdn ($650 USD)......after listening to quite a few different models (Yamaha MP5, Roland DS 50 & 90, Studiophile SP-5B, Event 20/20, Tannoy's, etc...) I narrowed it down to a choice between either the Yorkville YSM-1P's (made right here in good old Toronto) or the Behringer Truth's in my price budget which both retail for around $850 Cdn including tax....

I'd heard & read so much about the Behringer's on the web....but had a hard time actually finding a set to listen to....coz they've been "out of stock" here in North America for more than 3 months now.......and won't be hear in the stores until early AUG according to Herr Behringer himself....

Anyhow, I finally got to compare the two sets (side by side) this week.....I listened to several CD's (Yanni, Lynaryd Skynaryd, Santana Motorhead & Jethro Tull to test a variety of different tunes, etc...

Well, the Behringer's LOOK kinda neat & high tech from about 20 feet away :-)....but a close up inspection reveals a somewhat "cheapo" product...IMHO :-)

For *audio quality* (the most important aspect of course) the Yorkies won hands down....for clear flat response, mid-range definition and seperation...the YSM-1P's are way better than the Truths....which produced a somewhat 'colored' high end....becoming harsh at the higher volume levels....The B2031's do have plenty of punch agreed....BUT, I found the Yorkville's to be a much 'warmer' sound with no added textures...

The Yorkvilles are well built & have 115 Watts per side, so there's more than enough power for most needs at home......I was pleasantly surprised. I hadn't expected 'em to sound so good at that low price.....

Conclusion......

IF anyone is looking for a set of moniotrs in the under $1000 Cdn price range the Yorkvilles are hard to beat....in fact, after extensively listening to 15-20 sets over a 2-3 month period....I'd say that in order to really get a 'noticable' improvment....one has to spend almost 3 times as much (ie: the Mackie 824's at $2600 Cdn).....or Genelecs....etc...

Here's the info on the Yorkville YSM-1P's at:


http://www.yorkville.com/default.asp?section=3&level2=14&level3=

I just wanted to share this info....coz I'm such a *fussy bastard* when it come to buying anything major :-) I always do extensive research on all my budget options ....and I'm very hard to please....(just ask my wife :-).....so, if anyone's in the market for some good value monitors.....go check em out...

It also felt good to buy something made right here in Canada (for a change) as apposed to a SE Asian sweat-shop :-)

Just my 5 cents worth...

KEV
 
Hands down, the Behringer monitors are the worst I have ever heard......
pretty much anything else will outperform them....
that`s the TRUTH


Amund
 
Yo KevZmUZik:

I had a friend of mine over one night and he and his wife listened to my Yorkville YSM-1's; he isn't a musician but he said, "Hey, man, will you order me a pair of these speakers."

You can spend more but the Yorkvilles do a nice job.

Green Hornet:D :D :p :p :cool: :cool: :cool:
 
I'm glad to see this post. I ordered a pair of the YSM1P's about a month ago, and I'm still waiting for them to come in. They had to order them from Yorkville (Niagra Falls) who in turn had to order them from Yorkville (Toronto, I believe). But I'm willing to wait if they are that good. I'm glad to see I made a good choice.
 
To jdc,

yeah, don't worry about the late order....it's not a screw-up....Yorkville make products at set dates throughout the year and only ship in large quantities a few times p/a....so you unfortunately caught them in between a production date when stocks had all been sold, etc...

They are due in 1-2 weeks now - as you mention....

I'm sure that your'll like 'em...for the price ya just can't go wrong.....they sound GREAT in my 12' x 12' studio at home....

and I don't need to turn em up much above 1/3 vol....the 230W total is more than enuff for my needs.....

KEV
 
would it be stupid to order Mackei HR824's and Yorkville 1p's too? Are they comparable, because I wanna have more than one pair of monitors.
 
Hey Tyler,


I'm just curious.....WHY would you need 2 sets of monitors in a home studio????

Using 4 speakers (ie: a 4.1 set up) will only 'confuse' your mixing....coz a double stereo sound kinda 'falsely' enhances the audio.....AND, "IF" you did have TWO studio PC set ups each with it's own monitors, etc....one would really want both to have the same reference speakers...otherwise the overall 'balance' would be off, with a different response coming from the two sets...when used simultaneously....

IF you can afford the Mackie 824's then of course go with them...but for the buck the Yorkies are great with a very flat response, a nice bottom end (just like the wife :-)....and good mid-range definition/imaging......definitely the best of the bunch in the under $1000 Cdn ($600 USD) price range....IMHO....

and NO, Yorkville doesn't pay me to say that :-)

KEV
 
I don't want to use them at the same time. Just for variety.
 
HHhhhhmm......

from a *practical* perspective, I really don't see the point in that. I'd just buy the BEST monitors I could afford, if I were you, and go with them....

What you suggest (ie: variety)....is a bit like me (a guitarist) who uses Fender & Gibson guitars....and then wanting to purchase a cheap 'copy' model like a Mex made Squire guitar or something similar....unless, I realy needed it for a specific reason...it just wouldn't make sense....

So, IF you have the bucks....then get a set of Mackie 824's or Genelecs, etc....and if not, then buy something like the YSM-1P's....

Nuff said :-)

KEV
 
I should have mine by Monday evening. They shipped ground on 6-25-02. Thanks for all the info Kev.
 
To Djc,

After you've given them a decent testing....don't forget to give us your report here :-)

Enjoy....

KEV
 
Kevzmusic,

The idea is to try to test your mixes on as many different monitor/speaker systems as you can. Not everyone is going to be listening to your songs on the same system, so it's best to try everything from really nice high quality monitors to car stereos to cheesy computer speakers and everything esle in between that you can get your hands on to make sure it sounds good (or at least decent) on most speakers.

And because even different brands of high quality monitors/speakers sound different, it never hurts to have two (or more) sets of good monitors for reference. One of these days I plan on getting at least a couple different pairs myself....

-tkr
 
Kevzmusic said:
Hey Tyler,

I'm just curious.....WHY would you need 2 sets of monitors in a home studio????

KEV
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Sorry to disagree, Kev, but I got to go with Tekker on this one. I think it is advantageous to have as many monitoring systems as possible. Each model has it's idiosyncracies, and by checking mixes on multiple systems, one can make better judgements. In addition to an alternate pair of nearfields, it would be advantageous to check mixes in the car, on a boom-box, on a hi-fi system, through your television speakers - basically on anything and anyplace you can.
 
ok, i'm glad we've established that. so what would be a good companion for the mackie hr824s that I won't have to mortgage my girlfriends car in order to get? yorkville, fostex pm-1, alesis(nevermind), tannoy, etc.?
 
HHHhhhmmm,

I thought the whole idea of have very * FLAT* response monitors was that one could create a MIX that would, in essence, sound good on *most* speakers it was listened upon...ie: what ya put in at one end = the same at the other end...

Well, having 2, 3 or even 4 sets of different monitors MAY indeed give a little bit more variation of end sound result, etc....BUT, considering that there are literally 100's of different end user speaker systems, radio, TV, etc, etc...

So, to MY mind it doesn't really make it that much adventageous....in the long run :-)

KEV
 
no monitors are perfectly flat kev. If you haven't figured that out yet, then you have a problem.
 
tyler657recpro said:
no monitors are perfectly flat kev. If you haven't figured that out yet, then you have a problem.
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I'm glad you're learning Tyler... but it strikes me as hilarious that we had to beat that particular bit of knowledge into you only a short time ago, and here you are coming down on someone else! :eek:

:D :D

Kev....

It is VERY common to have a secondary or even third monitor reference, just to make sure you've covered all the bases.

I use KRK V8s all the time for the bulk of my work, but before I "sign off" on a mix, it gets checked thru Yorkvilles, cheap-ass Radio Shack shit-jobs, and even a boombox..........

;)
 
Tyler,

I don't recall using the phrase "perfectly flat" in any of my posts here...

KEV
 
Blue Bear,

I am well aware that using 2-3 different sets of monitors will give a varied response and in *theory* help one mix to suit a range of potential end users......

BUT, I the best method is to start off with a FLAT response as possible (ie: ground zero :-) and then built up the tunes from there accordingly....

In the end, 2-3 variations isn't gonna make a ton of difference in a market that supports literally 1000's of different end-speaker options & situations, etc.....

KEV
 
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