Unhappy with New Les Paul

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Spin Doctor said:
Dude you gotta stretch your strings and you won't have these problems. Stretch them until they don't go out of tune no more. Make sure nothing is slipping at the nut.

Many people consider me a genius you should take my advice about staying in tune.
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Listen to the man. Many people consider him a genius.
 
I got no answer for his fret buzz. Unless he's stringing the string wrong. You gotta string it so each loop goes under the previous one, or vice versa. That way the angle will be so that it don't buzz so god damn much.
 
My bet is that the nut could not be properly cut. Nut slots that are too high will cause buzzing, also intonation problems. Make sure the strings are not sticking in the nut too. If you tune "up" to the note , and then bend the string and it is now flat, your nut slots are too tight . Lube will sometimes be enough. If not, then it needs filed by a "good" tech. I've seen numerous Pauls in the showroom with poorly cut nuts. It seems to be an area where Gibson cuts corners.

Don't dispair though. There is no reason it shouldn't play great after the right tech works on it. (Unless the neck is actually twisted, ) which is pretty rare. Check around, and find out who "the man" is in your area. Too many shops either have someone in-house who is not qualified, or they sublet the work out to whoever will do it the cheapest.
 
goldtopchas said:
My bet is that the nut could not be properly cut. I've seen numerous Pauls in the showroom with poorly cut nuts. It seems to be an area where Gibson cuts corners.
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seems kind of a screw job that a person pays $$$$$hi end money, and has to turn right around and fix the guitar and have it setup and pay for that too?

Brooks Mays did free setups on something of this caliber...and for any company to "cut corners" on a $several thousand dollar guitar$....dang?

I guess I expect too much.:confused:
 
Spin Doctor said:
Yes I do. That is what I think.
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You think he took it to someone who sets up guitars for a living, and they did a setup on a Les Paul without stretching the strings. And you think they don't know how to string a guitar. AND you think you're a genius.

I'm clear.
 
The action is too low for the lowered tuning. Also, you probably switched string gauge and didn't make the correction at the nut.
 
pull the frets out. no buzz or intonation problems after that. i promise. :D
 
COOLCAT said:
Brooks Mays did free setups on something of this caliber...and for any company to "cut corners" on a $several thousand dollar guitar$....dang?

I guess I expect too much.:confused:
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you expect too much from gibson. for a few years the people working there started caring......at least in the custom shop. Not anymore though. They are a corporation out to make absolutely as much money as possible and that's it. You HAVE to play MANY gibsons in order to find a useable one. gibsons quality control is next to non existant. warped necks, shit fret work, and shit finish work are all extremely common on even gibsons high dollar guitars. I own two custom shop gibsons and took a year looking at les pauls and cs356's and played everyone I could get my hands on in that year (I actually played about 15 the day I bought my les paul) and I took another half a year looking at just cs356's before I bought one. I saw so many neck issues and cosmetic flaws it was ridiculous.

Sometimes I regret buying gibson anything. Especially after finding out about their less than respectable business practices.

There are some really great gibson guitars, but there are some REAL shit gibsons. Tom may have gotten a shit one.
 
Problems sound identical to my Squire Strat. Sadly, nothing will help my shitface Squire. The post above is ominous. You may be better off trying to get your money back.
 
I pull the bass strings out of the saddle now and then on my 335 but I attribute that to the guitar being 30 years old and the saddles being worn.
 
I had the same tuning problem with a Standard SG. Put on Grovers, checked the nut, did everything possible, but it wouldn't stay in tune. I ended up selling it to a 2nd hand shop, where I got half of what I paid for it. I'd be very wary of buying a Gibson.
 
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That's why I buy only Walmart guitars. You ALWAYs have fret buzz, and usually only after about 3 months of play, spend another 150.00 bucks, which is cheaper than a fret job around here, and start again. :D

Kidding of course, I have a Les Paul that had the saddle replaced and heavier gauge strings put on for being tuned to low c. I've already seen these suggested here.

Good Luck with your LP. Give it some TLC and it'll come around.

And I'm a Fender Player BTW, but I really love my one and only Gibson.
 
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