The Onyx 1620 mislead me

[myhatbroke]

I thought you could use the eq's as you recorded via Firewire...but you can't

Is there another interface that does have the capacity of doing this. If not, how could I set up an interface, like the firepod, and use some kind of EQ board to pre eq the sound before going into the computer?

 

[therage!]

I don't know anything about the Firepod, does it have inserts? That's what you would want to use. For some things i will use EQ going in and I use the output on my Joe Meek box to the input on my 1010...done. I can also use the EQ on my mixer.

 

[myhatbroke]

I don't know anything about the Firepod, does it have inserts? That's what you would want to use. For some things i will use EQ going in and I use the output on my Joe Meek box to the input on my 1010...done. I can also use the EQ on my mixer.

I can't picture it exactly.

All I want is basically an external mixer/recorder. I want to be able to eq the instruments before the signal goes to the pc.

 

[myhatbroke]

Does anyone get what I'm trying to say?

 

[erosconpollo]

There are folks out there who will mod the Onyx for you to put the EQ into the signal path to the firewire. As here .

 

[jonnyc]

If the Onyx has direct outs on every channel then you could get something like a delta 1010. I've been considering a Toft ATB 24 with a couple of 1010's or something similar.

 

[myhatbroke]

I don't see the point in buying the onyx and then modding it. Is there not an interface with a buil in mixer?

 

[therage!]

I don't see the point in buying the onyx and then modding it. Is there not an interface with a buil in mixer?

Hat, get one of these when they come out.
http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/n8n12/features.html

The Firepod you mentioned has insert jacks so you could plug in a stand alone EQ to it.

 

[kojdogg]

i think that the m-audio firewire mixer interface has the eq in the channel. i have an onyx 1220 and that eq aspect really pissed me off-- they state that it's to make it more versatile as a live mixer. i sold the firewire card and got an echo audiofire12 which i dig.
incidentallly, i think your beef is with mackie, not the mixer itself. if the mixer mislead you then your problems go deeper than post firewire eq.

 

[pipelineaudio]

Bizzarre trouble!

Not that I'd commit a mackie EQ to tape, but you'd think it would do this at least as an option

 

[BushmasterM4]

I don't see the point in buying the onyx and then modding it. Is there not an interface with a buil in mixer?

The reason Mackie didnt Tap the firewire signal after the eq's was because this is a Live/Recording mixer. If your playing live somewhere you always set the eq for the venue your in. That signal may not be the best eq for recording. So it sends a clean signal letting you use vst plugins to taylor the sound. Most firewire interfaces do not have eq's. A digital recording mixer will. But the price is way out there. Yes you can mod the Mackie and it will function as you wish. And the perkens eq's are nice. And the price of the mixer and mod will be cheaper than buying a digital recording mixer. I have a 1640 and have no problems recording and using plugins. If your using the mackie to simply record, then set the eq's on your amps to get the sound your after. The onyx pre's will record extremely well. That the best way to record anyway (get the sound you want at the source). Then tweak it if need be with vst's after you record.

 

[kojdogg]

The reason Mackie didnt Tap the firewire signal after the eq's was because this is a Live/Recording mixer. If your playing live somewhere you always set the eq for the venue your in. That signal may not be the best eq for recording. So it sends a clean signal letting you use vst plugins to taylor the sound. Most firewire interfaces do not have eq's. A digital recording mixer will. But the price is way out there. Yes you can mod the Mackie and it will function as you wish. And the perkens eq's are nice. And the price of the mixer and mod will be cheaper than buying a digital recording mixer. I have a 1640 and have no problems recording and using plugins. If your using the mackie to simply record, then set the eq's on your amps to get the sound your after. The onyx pre's will record extremely well. That the best way to record anyway (get the sound you want at the source). Then tweak it if need be with vst's after you record.

yeah, they could have put a switch on it to put it in the path or out though-- that's what the mackie approved mod does. it would have raised the price for sure, but i think most folks would be amenable to it, or they could offer it as a factory option.

 

[BushmasterM4]

Yes but most professional recording studios prefer a clean signal. Its easier to add eq then to take it away. See my point. I agree it should have been an option. But from a recording engineers stand point it makes sense. And all mastering houses will tell you the same. Its easier to add eq to a clean recording then to remove it.

 

[CJWalker]

There are folks out there who will mod the Onyx for you to put the EQ into the signal path to the firewire. As here .

Here's a link to the mod.

It's a shame that you can't run an external clock with the firewire option.

 

[Nightfire]

Alesis Multimix Firewire....mixing board with firewire, records the EQ settings you wish. Very cheap for what it is too.

 

[kojdogg]

Yes but most professional recording studios prefer a clean signal. Its easier to add eq then to take it away. See my point. I agree it should have been an option. But from a recording engineers stand point it makes sense. And all mastering houses will tell you the same. Its easier to add eq to a clean recording then to remove it.

yeah it's still shitty of mackie to do. it's always nice to have the option of using a high pass filter or to tweak eq a bit for recording-- especially if you're using any sort of compression while tracking (another problem with the mackies is that the inserts are post firewire too). it sucks that you can't use the eq unless you're using the main outs or if you pay like $300 for the mod-- there's no qualifying it. plus it messes up one of the potentially nice uses of the board eq-- as part of an analog summing interface for mixdown.

 

[kojdogg]

Alesis Multimix Firewire....mixing board with firewire, records the EQ settings you wish. Very cheap for what it is too.

i think that's limited to 48khz, but it has built in effects.

 

[dgatwood]

All I want is basically an external mixer/recorder. I want to be able to eq the instruments before the signal goes to the pc.

Most folks just EQ in the box. It's not like EQ is a particularly complex, CPU-intensive effect to get right (unless you want to add all sorts of distortion from the cheap EQ sections that are common in most consumer-grade mixers; if you are trying to get that gritty, over-EQed effect, that's a lot harder to do in software...). I could handle an basic parametric EQ on at least one insert of all... I think 28 or so channels on a 233 MHz PowerBook G3 back in the late 1990s.

 

[myhatbroke]

Cool Cool. I'll look into Digital Mixers and those products suggested above.

 

[myhatbroke]

Alesis Multimix Firewire....mixing board with firewire, records the EQ settings you wish. Very cheap for what it is too.

Hah! Geez, well this can do exactly what I want but now I see that it's a bad thing too. An on/off button would be too complicated huh?