The New Tone Thread

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A proper power supply is something I am actually just starting to get interested in.

I was sitting on the edge of my sofa the other day working on some vocals so I just dragged my mic stand across the room from in front of amp so it was in front of my face. This left the power supply for the 1-spot kind of wrapped around the mic cable and caused all sorts of annoying noise. I still can't justify the expense of a real board though - I just don't play live enough.
 
JDOD said:
A proper power supply is something I am actually just starting to get interested in.

I was sitting on the edge of my sofa the other day working on some vocals so I just dragged my mic stand across the room from in front of amp so it was in front of my face. This left the power supply for the 1-spot kind of wrapped around the mic cable and caused all sorts of annoying noise. I still can't justify the expense of a real board though - I just don't play live enough.
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Well you wouldn't need a power supply for that. You just have to untangle your messy shit. :D

For home use, there's not much need for a pedal power supply. You don't need a board either. I mean, how many pedals are you really gonna have going at once at any given time? Just hook up the one or ones you want for that one specific track.

Now a power conditioner could be a good thing if dirty or unreliable power is a problem. That thing will supply a proper, steady, clean voltage to your amp, computer, whatever. This isn't really too much of a problem usually, but some places just have bad power. I've never found the need for one, but I don't know what I don't know because I've never used one. Maybe I could benefit from one. I don't think so though.
 
Gents who don't check the mixing clinic,

I've just posted up another track in the mixing clinic - you've heard the riff before but I've just re-tracked the whole thing so I'd like you to have a listen to the tones as well as give me any comments on the mixing etc.
 
JDOD said:
There's always factor 1,000,000 sunblock and a swig of unholy water to protect you!
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I've already said too much. I don't want the undeserving to pick up on my words of wisdom! I will PM you mix critiques from now on. :D
 
Greg_L said:
I've already said too much. I don't want the undeserving to pick up on my words of wisdom! I will PM you mix critiques from now on. :D
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haha, I've added a version with a hint of verb to the main guitars now - makes a huge difference. Its weird, you can even tell with the feedback at the start - it sounds more like a its sitting with the open-hat. Might take a look at some guitar EQ at some point. Want to re-track the bass first though.
 
In Search Of is tonight following the Inca trail to Mucho Brighto though not on open strings.
here's my current project with one of the voicings Greg put me onto. The new chord voicings are on the chorus only.

There are a couple of guitar tracks of the new ones.
Thoughts or suggestions - Oh, yeah, I've probably created some discordant spots as I get used to the changes. Tone is the issue at this point though. Little 5 watt Kustom Defender at about 1.30 and loud enough in the room for me to wear protection. Bruno semi acoustic with single coils I track is middle position & the other is bridge.
 
I think the tone of the guitars it pretty cool but it is very bright! I'd be temped to say keep it as it though and make the bass more bassey first as the bass is also very bright! See how that works out, then maybe add more bottom to the guitars.

There do seem to be some little dischordant changes in amongs all that - almost like you're playing a major and a minor at the same time occasionally.
 
JDOD, yep, yep & yep. There's is a major minor overlay - well a maj, a fifth & a minor overlay to be clearer. I was experimenting with a different D to make the changes easier and a 3 note Dm is super easy to do after the A shape I was using so I tried it.
I've been pushing the bright envelope as my ham fisted playing and power chords (5th) rooted on the bottom E were excessively dark. I can remove the EQ I added easily enough. The bass - yeah, more thump is my preference but it didn't work under the previously dark tone - I can now address that. Oh, there's one chord where my fingers start curling and pulling the strings out that may be a prob as well. BUT if the tone, generally, is OK & I deal with the overly bright bass & EQ on the gtrs I may be sorted sooner rather than later.
 
Cool. You got some good ideas to get on with mixing up some low and high chords and where to get on with sorting out the EQ too then. If you want any more ideas for coming up with high, jangly versions, of your chords give me a shout.
 


EQ altered as per JDOD's suggestions/comments.
I removed the BRIGHT from the gtr buss and the master buss as well as adding a little more bottom end to the bass.

JDOD,
I'll get back to you on that offer soon.
 
Ray, I think that sounds a bit better. How much drive have you got on the bass? Seems like quite a lot by the middle of the track.
 
Ray I think the second version sounds better. Those tones work pretty well for the style and your picking/fingering seems to have improved. The bass is a little bright, but I personally don't mind that. An attacking bass is better to me than some low lifeless flub. The jangly bits are plenty jangly, I like that too. Just work out where your majors and minors are gonna go and you'll be in good shape.
 
Good morrow to you, tone threaders! Just a quick one from me. This mix is a bit half-baked to tell you the truth - not happy with the vocals as yet and there are some bits of guitar to add. The reason I've posted it is because I recorded some of the guitars with the emulated out of my Marshall JVM. The solo 2/3 of the way through is D.I.d

What do you think? It's a cover of a Frank Black song (ex of the Pixies).

View attachment All My Ghosts.mp3
 
a sporadic recording thingie
I got home from a gig .... was buzzed ... decided to do a comparison between an amp and a pedal I've been using.
So I took one of the sequences I've done for my solo gig (just about all of 'em are solo these days ) and then recorded a couple of guitar tracks .... one done with the Mark V and another done with the Digitech Jimi Hendrix pedal direct into the board.
You'll easily tell when it changes guitar tracks ... there's a break in the music.
So (ignore the harmony as far as the amp/pedal thing goes ) there will be one of them for a bit then a break and the other one will run on out.
I'll be curious to see if you can tell which is which ..... though you might just say they both suck!
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Lt. Bob said:
a sporadic recording thingie
I got home from a gig .... was buzzed ... decided to do a comparison between an amp and a pedal I've been using.
So I took one of the sequences I've done for my solo gig (just about all of 'em are solo these days ) and then recorded a couple of guitar tracks .... one done with the Mark V and another done with the Digitech Jimi Hendrix pedal direct into the board.
You'll easily tell when it changes guitar tracks ... there's a break in the music.
So (ignore the harmony as far as the amp/pedal thing goes ) there will be one of them for a bit then a break and the other one will run on out.
I'll be curious to see if you can tell which is which ..... though you might just say they both suck!
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I'd have to say I think the pedal is the second one of the clips, although when you play in the higher register the tone is pretty nice. I don't much like the tone on the lower strings on the second clip. Playing is great as I would expect. :D
 
Bubba po said:
I'd have to say I think the pedal is the second one of the clips, although when you play in the higher register the tone is pretty nice. I don't much like the tone on the lower strings on the second clip. Playing is great as I would expect. :D
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Thank you sir.
Yeah .... those first low notes suck ....
I will say that the higher register is also a switch to the bridge p'up from the middle position.
I wish I'd played some low notes on the bridge p'up .... may have been less horrible.

For some reason that musical generating device responds MUCH better to the bridge p/up.

I'm gonna not say which is which for a bit. of course.
 
Bubba po said:
Good morrow to you, tone threaders! Just a quick one from me. This mix is a bit half-baked to tell you the truth - not happy with the vocals as yet and there are some bits of guitar to add. The reason I've posted it is because I recorded some of the guitars with the emulated out of my Marshall JVM. The solo 2/3 of the way through is D.I.d

What do you think? It's a cover of a Frank Black song (ex of the Pixies).

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That's not too bad. Sounds kind of gritty but it fits the style. I hate the direct out on my JVM, but you've done a better job than I do apparently. I like Frank Black too...and love The Pixies.

Lt. Bob said:
a sporadic recording thingie
I got home from a gig .... was buzzed ... decided to do a comparison between an amp and a pedal I've been using.
So I took one of the sequences I've done for my solo gig (just about all of 'em are solo these days ) and then recorded a couple of guitar tracks .... one done with the Mark V and another done with the Digitech Jimi Hendrix pedal direct into the board.
You'll easily tell when it changes guitar tracks ... there's a break in the music.
So (ignore the harmony as far as the amp/pedal thing goes ) there will be one of them for a bit then a break and the other one will run on out.
I'll be curious to see if you can tell which is which ..... though you might just say they both suck!
:laughings:
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I'm gonna guess the first is the Mark V because it sounds like a Mark V to me, and the second half is the pedal direct because it actually sounds direct.

Regardless of whether I'm right or not, I like the first half tone better.
 
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