The New Tone Thread

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Very decorative MMan.
I wish I were handy enough to do such things.
I'm considering paying a handy man to do some for me.
 
I'm not watching that. She looks like she could possibly be a 14 yr old wearing too much makeup with her boobs pushed up for page hits. Seems iffy to me.


Thanks for listening Ray and minerman.

Miner, I just used the SD-1 to compress the gain some for that hair-metalish sound. The JVM doesn't need any pedal help. If there was ever an amp that would encourage you to leave all of your pedals at home, it's the JVM. I don't find the JVM to have the same flubbiness as the DSL. The JVM's Crunch channel is thicker than the OD channels, but it's not a drastic change like with the DSL. Otherwise their Crunch and OD tones are tonally pretty similar with the JVM having a ton more flexibility. I've been meaning to do a channel-by-channel run through of the amp with clips, but it's just so much work. :laughings:

There are a few things that are sort of goofy to me about the JVM though. One is that the gain gets very thick and grainy if you twist it up past about halfway on any given channel. I think it's better to switch to the next mode up and lower the gain than use a less-gain channel with the gain turned up higher. Another is that the jump from Green to Orange mode on the OD channels is a pretty big leap in gain and feel. It goes from angry JCM 800 to WTF just happened? The other channel/mode switching is more logical and predictable. And lastly it takes some tweaking to get the channel volumes and fx loop levels the same level if you're ever in a situation that requires you to jump channels on the fly. The FX loop serial/parallel blend takes some fiddling to keep everything sounding seamless.

Nice panels by the way. That one against the Jeep looks like the wood is bowed. I know it's hard to find cheap 1 x 2's that are straight. Doesn't matter though. It's like it's gonna affect the functionality of the panel.
 
Lol, Wikipedia says she's 20. I thought it was amusing that she's a popular YouTube 'artist'.
 
It's all about the makeup, lighting, filters, and of course, boobs. That's what makes an "artist" these days. And people around me wonder why I'm so negative and cynical about music in general.
 
I don't watch ANY videos ..... they're time wasters.

I don't watch random people's self-produced youtube music videos. That shit is always garbage. I like to watch people getting hurt though. "Fail" videos are always funny to me. :D
 
I don't watch random people's self-produced youtube music videos. That shit is always garbage. I like to watch people getting hurt though. "Fail" videos are always funny to me. :D
I would watch vids of people I know here ..... but otherwise I just don't.

I do like 'Worlds' Dumbest' though. :D
 
It's all about the makeup, lighting, filters, and of course, boobs. That's what makes an "artist" these days. And people around me wonder why I'm so negative and cynical about music in general.

Summary for you: hot girl, plenty of cleavage, sings an American Idol-ized version of Highway to Hell.

Recommendation: watch pron. You'll see more boob and the music is less painful to listen to.
 
Thanks guys, I haven't hung any more of the panels yet (but I'm about to), & I'd say they're gonna make a difference, even if it isn't totally deadened...I dunno why that panel in the picture looks like it's bowed like that, because it isn't....I picked through the lumber myself & got straight/good ones..Guess it's just the cell phone camera & the angle it was on against my little jeep....

Greg: Thanks for the info on the JVM, but you've give me GAS on that thing again dude....It would be cool to have a run-down on all it's channels/modes/features, but, that would take a while...

A guy in the Marshall forum sold his JVM & bought a DSL like mine because of the loop...He's using an Axe FX II with his amp (for effects), & said he just couldn't dial in the JVM's loop, so he got rid of it....That's a head scratcher right there, but, he did say all he needed in an amp was a clean channel, & a dirt channel, so....

I've saw that chick before, & the Gerg's right, it's all about publicity....she does have nice tits though...
 
I would have guessed I would have liked the green channel the best. But I actually like the orange channel the best. I suppose it matters most in the context of a mix. But just solo'd I like the distortion best on the orange channel. They're all excellent, just like orange most.
 
Here's some JVM examples from the crunch channel. Same settings for all 3 clips, I just cycled through the modes.

Les Paul Traditional - Burstbucker 3 bridge pickup
Marshall JVM410 Crunch channel
Resonance & Presence - 0
Bass - 6
Mid - 4
Treb - 6
Gain - 5
Channel & Master vol - 5
Marshall 1960B 4x12 - Vintage 30 - Audix i5 on grill, on axis, halfway to edge.
No processing in DAW

JVM Crunch Green
JVM Crunch Orange
JVM Crunch Red

They all sound pretty good to me - I like the middle one best. So they're the three levels of the one channel? What other channels are there?
 
I liked the crunch red the best, but, I also like more gain than most of you guys too...It's got just a hair too much gain, but it's pretty close to being set for something I'd use...It sounds like it flubs just a little, that's why I said I'd lower the gain just a hair...either that, or raise it on the orange...


Lemme get this straight, that's one channel on the JVM, the crunch, right??? It's got: clean, crunch, od1 & od2, with 3 modes per channel??? That's basically a 12 channel amp, correct???

Damn dude, it would take a while to go through all that...You're killing me again....lol That amp with the programmable footswitch (midi footswitch thing where you could save like 128 presets & switch to any of them instantly) would be just a killer setup....

The JVM410 is what I'd set out to buy back last summer, & had one picked out (on the Marshall forum), but it turned out the seller had modded it without knowing what the fuck he was doing, & basically ruined the amp....The price was right ($1000), but I dodged a bullet on that one, I'd had to have sent it off, costing me probably the difference of the new amp price, so I did the right thing just getting my DSL100 new...
 
I liked the crunch red the best, but, I also like more gain than most of you guys too...It's got just a hair too much gain, but it's pretty close to being set for something I'd use...It sounds like it flubs just a little, that's why I said I'd lower the gain just a hair...either that, or raise it on the orange...


Lemme get this straight, that's one channel on the JVM, the crunch, right??? It's got: clean, crunch, od1 & od2, with 3 modes per channel??? That's basically a 12 channel amp, correct???

Damn dude, it would take a while to go through all that...You're killing me again....lol That amp with the programmable footswitch (midi footswitch thing where you could save like 128 presets & switch to any of them instantly) would be just a killer setup....

The JVM410 is what I'd set out to buy back last summer, & had one picked out (on the Marshall forum), but it turned out the seller had modded it without knowing what the fuck he was doing, & basically ruined the amp....The price was right ($1000), but I dodged a bullet on that one, I'd had to have sent it off, costing me probably the difference of the new amp price, so I did the right thing just getting my DSL100 new...

I see lots of used JVM410s for around that price and less over here on ebay. Are they harder to come by over there?
 
Thanks fellas. I like Crunch Orange the best too. Crunch Red is one of my usual rhythm choices, but I set it differently. I usually use less gain in that mode. I don't really like the Red mode on any of the channels unless the gain is low.

That's just the Crunch channel. There's also a Clean channel, and two Overdrive channels. Four channels total, three modes per channel. Twelve possibilities. All tube driven. I'll do each channel if you want. I'll do the Clean channel next. It's the weirdest one. It's designed to be like a Super Lead in that the tone stack comes before the gain stage. It doesn't sound like a Super Lead though.

The beauty of the JVM is that each channel has it's own EQ, it's own reverb, it's own gain, and it's own volume. They all can go to the effects loop. So you can skip from channel to channel, mode to mode, with or without effects loop, without one setting screwing up another. It also has two master volumes. If you wanna cruise your rhythms on Crunch Orange, and then kick it into OD1 Green for leads with a volume boost and reverb, no problem. It's a simple tap of the footswitch.

The effects loop can be dialed in to be serial or parallel, and there's a separate power amp loop. The power amp loop allows you to use something like the horrid AxeFX and pipe it into the JVM's power section so you can amplify it through a cab. I've never touched the power amp loop. I like the regular effects loop though.

No offense to your DSL minerman, but any dude that ditches the JVM for a DSL because he can't figure out the effects loop is a class A doofus. :laughings:

I paid $1150 for mine, I think. I found it used at Guitar Center online and had it shipped right to me. It's literally in brand new condition. 2010 model. Still had the factory stickers all over it.
 
The beauty of the JVM is that each channel has it's own EQ, it's own reverb, it's own gain, and it's own volume. They all can go to the effects loop. So you can skip from channel to channel, mode to mode, with or without effects loop, without one setting screwing up another. It also has two master volumes. If you wanna cruise your rhythms on Crunch Orange, and then kick it into OD1 Green for leads with a volume boost and reverb, no problem. It's a simple tap of the footswitch.

I agree, & I've never played through one...I will have one eventually, but for now, the DSL100 & Chupacabra do pretty fuckin' good IMO...Love 'em, both are great....The only thing if/when I ever get a JVM would be all the choices I'd have...lol...It'd be like I was using ampsims again, endlessly tweaking, just with real knobs...hahaha

The effects loop can be dialed in to be serial or parallel, and there's a separate power amp loop. The power amp loop allows you to use something like the horrid AxeFX and pipe it into the JVM's power section so you can amplify it through a cab. I've never touched the power amp loop. I like the regular effects loop though.

No offense to your DSL minerman, but any dude that ditches the JVM for a DSL because he can't figure out the effects loop is a class A doofus. :laughings:
That was a head scratcher for me too dude, but to each his own...The loop on the JVM is either series or parallel, so that's a win/win to me, you can use it about any way you'd wanna...I don't remember exactly what the guy said, but it was something about the loop not sounding "right" with his Axe FxII, I'm guessing he had the levels in/out all fucked up on both the amp & the Axe Fx, so it sounded like shit...I'd love to have an Axe Fx just for the effects, but I'm not gonna plunk down that kinda $$$ for it...

I paid $1150 for mine, I think. I found it used at Guitar Center online and had it shipped right to me. It's literally in brand new condition. 2010 model. Still had the factory stickers all over it.
They're out there, & at good prices...I just can't swing anything right now, as I'm still out of work, & have the new house payment...I can get by on unemployment, but it'll be tight, really tight, so there's no way I can put anything back toward another amp until I go back to work...

Like I said, I had one picked out, actually was about to send that guy the $$$ via Paypal, but backed out. I don't remember why I backed out, but it turned out to be a golden move on my part. I would have drove to where that guy lived, & kicked his ass if he'd shafted me like that...The guy that did buy that amp had to spend like $1500 on it to get it back to working order...Like I said, I dodged a bullet, but I did end up with the DSL100, brand new, warranty & all, & I'm really happy with it...I know it doesn't have the tonal variations a JVM does, but to me, it's still a kick-ass amp...

Oh yeah, I've pretty much traded 2 of the T-75's, one for an Eminence Texas Heat (150w), & one for a Boss ST-2...Yeah, it's another od pedal, but I'd probably use it more than I'm using the T-75's, which is never...I still have the one I got from Greg in my ISO cab, & will probably try the Texas Heat in there, just to see if the tone is useable, which I very seriously doubt....The ISO cab is still good for a low-noise/silent di tracking thing though....Re-amp 'em through the real deal after I get the performance recorded....
 
Minermaniac, honestly a JVM would be extreme overkill for you. It's overkill for me, and I actually gig. For your kind of sounds, your DSL and Chupacabra are just fine. You probably wouldn't use half of the JVM, and all of it's advantages over a DSL are really just functionality for live use. For recording you don't need most of it's bells and whistles. It's an amp designed for extreme versatility to be used live and loud.

And even with all of it's versatility, I still prefer my single channel old school style Marshalls.
 
Hey guys - just wanted to say hi. I love how this thread is still going strong. It's been a winter for the ages up here and I'm too busy to do squat but I still read these posts almost every day. Great tones and great spirit right here. Kinda what this site was built for yeah?

Keep rockin', gents. I'll see ya' in the spring.


lou
 
well, the kids have left ...... and now I'm sick ..... going back to bed.
 
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