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Greg_L
Banned
If you can work a screwdriver, you can replace a speaker.
If you can work a screwdriver, you can replace a speaker.
Tadpui
Well-known member
Why thanks!
I have a Traynor YCV80 that has a pair of the 70/80 speakers in it. Without hearing it in a DSL40, I can't pin down exactly what the difference might be between the 70/80 and the Creamback, but the 70/80s definitely get a little weird when they're pushed really hard. They seem to get a little "farty", where they make some resonant lo-freq noise that's not musical. Some of that is probably the YCV80's power section, but I'd bet that the speakers contribute to it as well.
I'm a little monitoring challenged right now, but I'll come back when I'm all reconnected and have a listen. I'm curious to hear the DSL40C without the Creamback.
minerman
Tonetard
Yep, I think it's a decent price too, a new one is about $145....hint hint....lol...
And so it begins!
When my kids went to the school right across the street from us, they told me they could hear my drums from inside the school. Awesome. No complaints though.
Meh....fuck 'em dude, he wasn't a prick or anything, he just told me it was distracting him from his homework...lol...I never realized how fuckin' loud that amp is until that moment...Just guessing, his house is about 200 feet (probably more to be honest), so I must've been shaking the whole fuckin' neighborhood....hahaha....Still, there's not a damn thing he can do about it until after 9 pm, then he can call the cops, but I'm not dumb enough to do that shit after 9 pm....I've been through this shit before, lotsa times in different places I've lived...lol...
I know I keep saying this, but the e-drums are gonna work for me, I've tracked 4 songs in the last couple days with 'em, & it's gonna work...The real test is when I send the Gerg something for his approval....
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Greg_L
Banned
The band I've been playing with for 8 years now, we practice in one of the guy's garage. Usually friday night if we have no gig. It's fucking loud as shit in there. Two 100 watt halfstacks, 300 watts of bass, PA, and me on drums. It's super loud. Way too loud, but that's how we do it. We stop at 10 pm sharp. Been doing it for years and no one's complained. The cops have come by a few times just to snoop around, but nothings ever come from it. We rock out and cut it at 10. No problem.
minerman
Tonetard
Yeah dude, there's really nothing anyone can do until after 9 pm, so fuck 'em.....
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TripleM
Well-known member
Ugh, sounds complicated.
minerman - I saw your add. Let's see how some of this advice pans out and maybe we'll talk.
minerman
Tonetard
Nothing to it dude, there's 4 screws in the speaker itself, & probably 4 screws holding the back plate of the amp on there...You should be able to swap 'em out in less than 10 minutes, probably faster...Ugh, sounds complicated.
Might trade for something dude, I'm not hurting for $$$, I'd just like to see these speakers be used, as they're just sitting in a box right now...Whaddya got to trade on????
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TripleM
Well-known member
OK I did some testing tonight. First off, lowering the volume did not really have much of an effect. So I left it where it was. Dialing back the bass (from 8 down to 5) had an effect, but less than I would have imagined. Turning the guitar tone knob from 10 down to 8 took out some of that high end scratchiness. Moving the mic out to about an inch away tightened the lows and low mids a bit. So here is what I did...
All with the LP, vol 10, tone 8.
Sample #1 Settings
Channel - Crunch
SM57 - just outside dustcap, on grill
Gain - 6
Vol - 8
Treb - 3
Mid - 5
Bass - 5
Presence - 3
Resonance - 0
Crunch #1
Sample #2 Settings
Channel - Crunch
SM57 - just outside dustcap, 1 inch away
Gain - 6
Vol - 8
Treb - 3
Mid - 5
Bass - 8
Presence - 3
Resonance - 0
Crunch #2
Notice the only differences between these two samples is the bass setting and the mic position. #1 has a lower bass setting, but gets more proximity effect. #2 has a higher bass setting but less proximity effect. Essentially they get their bottoms in slightly different ways. In the end moving out the mic didn't fully compensate for the increase in bass boost. So you'll notice its low end is more pronounced.
All with the LP, vol 10, tone 8.
Sample #1 Settings
Channel - Crunch
SM57 - just outside dustcap, on grill
Gain - 6
Vol - 8
Treb - 3
Mid - 5
Bass - 5
Presence - 3
Resonance - 0
Crunch #1
Sample #2 Settings
Channel - Crunch
SM57 - just outside dustcap, 1 inch away
Gain - 6
Vol - 8
Treb - 3
Mid - 5
Bass - 8
Presence - 3
Resonance - 0
Crunch #2
Notice the only differences between these two samples is the bass setting and the mic position. #1 has a lower bass setting, but gets more proximity effect. #2 has a higher bass setting but less proximity effect. Essentially they get their bottoms in slightly different ways. In the end moving out the mic didn't fully compensate for the increase in bass boost. So you'll notice its low end is more pronounced.
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TripleM
Well-known member
Nothing to it dude, there's 4 screws in the speaker itself, & probably 4 screws holding the back plate of the amp on there...You should be able to swap 'em out in less than 10 minutes, probably faster...
Might trade for something dude, I'm not hurting for $$$, I'd just like to see these speakers be used, as they're just sitting in a box right now...Whaddya got to trade on????
Yeah I was joking on the "ugh" part. I'm fairly handy around the house. Just inexperienced with electronics.
On the trade... The only stuff I would trade is junk and probably not even working anymore. A cruddy preamp and an old solid state Marshall that is pretty bad sounding. Nothing you could use. I saw your post. I might just nab it.
antichef
pornk rock
showoff
my next step is to get OC703 underneath the floorboards in my practice room. Maybe then I can get through half a song with the band before the neighbors start sending emails
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Greg_L
Banned
I know approximately where you live. The homes in that area are like resonant drum risers. I used to live right off West Gray near Montrose and my neighbors complained constantly. Score one point for suburban McMansions.
But lol for real @ sending emails. That's such a Portlandia way to complain.
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Greg_L
Banned
I like Crunch 1 better. They both seem improved over what you did before. There's still some low end harshness. I'm trying to pinpoint exactly what I'm hearing and put it into words. It's like the upper end is chimy and clear, but the buzz is in the low mids. When you accent the bass notes is when it sounds flubby. Maybe roll off even more bass. I know the Crunch channel is notoriously boomy on DSLs. Maybe rolling off more bass and filling with more mids can compensate for it. Or try a brighter mic position where it's not getting so much speaker woof.
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Greg_L
Banned
More metal!
Ok, not really, but sort of. I was talking about my delay pedal in another thread and decided to give it a try. I never use it. I like having it, I just don't use it. So here's a clip with some subtle delay on the intro "lead" bit and amp reverb on the whole way through.
Les Paul Trad - Burstbucker 3 bridge pickup
Marshall JVM410 - OD1 Green
Resonance & Presence - 0
Bass - 6
Mid - 4
Treb - 6.5
Gain - 4
Ch & Master vol - 5
Reverb - 4.5
Boss SD-1 clean boost
TC Electronic Flashback Delay in fx loop for part of it
Marshall 1960B 4x12 - Vintage 30 - Audix i5 on axis, on grill, halfway to edge.
Iron Gayden - Wasted Queers
I think the delay on the lead line may be too subtle. But whatever.
Ok, not really, but sort of. I was talking about my delay pedal in another thread and decided to give it a try. I never use it. I like having it, I just don't use it. So here's a clip with some subtle delay on the intro "lead" bit and amp reverb on the whole way through.
Les Paul Trad - Burstbucker 3 bridge pickup
Marshall JVM410 - OD1 Green
Resonance & Presence - 0
Bass - 6
Mid - 4
Treb - 6.5
Gain - 4
Ch & Master vol - 5
Reverb - 4.5
Boss SD-1 clean boost
TC Electronic Flashback Delay in fx loop for part of it
Marshall 1960B 4x12 - Vintage 30 - Audix i5 on axis, on grill, halfway to edge.
Iron Gayden - Wasted Queers
I think the delay on the lead line may be too subtle. But whatever.
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TripleM
Well-known member
Sounds really good. Not my favorite tone from you (probably not your favorite either), but still real good. I can't really discern any delay, but I can hear the reverb a bit. I like your distortion when it's a little grittier. This sample is a little too slick.
On your critique...
I pretty much knew you'd like the first one better. I don't know if I really have much of a preference. I'll do a little more testing tonight. I'm really starting to like the mic position where it's right on the grill and just outside of the dust cap. But I'll try that same tone as in sample 1 with the mic moved just *in*side the dustcap and compare. Then maybe I'll play around with the low/mid mix. If I have time, I'll also experiment on the Lead 1 channel. But I'm at a point now where I want to try stuff in a mix.
On your critique...
I pretty much knew you'd like the first one better. I don't know if I really have much of a preference. I'll do a little more testing tonight. I'm really starting to like the mic position where it's right on the grill and just outside of the dust cap. But I'll try that same tone as in sample 1 with the mic moved just *in*side the dustcap and compare. Then maybe I'll play around with the low/mid mix. If I have time, I'll also experiment on the Lead 1 channel. But I'm at a point now where I want to try stuff in a mix.
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Greg_L
Banned
Thanks trip. I agree, it's not my favorite kind of tone, but I think it came out okay. I do also prefer my less-gain more raw kind of sound. But that's why I love this thread - it's just fucking around. I'm gonna keep messing with my effects and see what I can come up with.
For your stuff...I was just about to suggest you drop them tones in a mix and see what you get. I think those latest clips will work pretty well for your power-pop kind of style.
For your stuff...I was just about to suggest you drop them tones in a mix and see what you get. I think those latest clips will work pretty well for your power-pop kind of style.
minerman
Tonetard
I'll give it a listen when I get a shower & eat a bite dude....I've spent all day making acoustic panels with Roxul, & need to get this shit off me, I'm starting to itch....lol...
They turned out a lot better looking than I thought they would, but I ran out of burlap, so I'll have to make another trip out tomorrow...Today I made 2 - 4' x 2' (cloud), & 6 - 2' x 2' for the walls...I still have enough to make about 3-4 1'x1' too, but again, I'll have to get some more burlap...I'll post a pic of one of 'em when I get settled...
Might have a possible trade for a couple of the T-75's...a guy offered me a couple Eminence Texas Heat speakers for 2 of 'em...Might do it too, that would be one for the ISO cab for sure, that I wouldn't have to worry about frying....He's supposed to get back with me, he might have some more shit too...To be honest, I'm pretty good on speakers, I just wanna flip these I have because I'm probably never gonna use 'em...
They turned out a lot better looking than I thought they would, but I ran out of burlap, so I'll have to make another trip out tomorrow...Today I made 2 - 4' x 2' (cloud), & 6 - 2' x 2' for the walls...I still have enough to make about 3-4 1'x1' too, but again, I'll have to get some more burlap...I'll post a pic of one of 'em when I get settled...
Might have a possible trade for a couple of the T-75's...a guy offered me a couple Eminence Texas Heat speakers for 2 of 'em...Might do it too, that would be one for the ISO cab for sure, that I wouldn't have to worry about frying....He's supposed to get back with me, he might have some more shit too...To be honest, I'm pretty good on speakers, I just wanna flip these I have because I'm probably never gonna use 'em...
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Greg_L
Banned
Damn I just got a tip on a 100w JCM 2000 DSL for $350! A friend of a guy I know is sick, like bad sick, and needs to move some stuff. I so do not need another amp.
minerman
Tonetard
Buy it & flip it for about $5-600 dude.....
minerman
Tonetard
That clip actually sounds pretty fuckin' good to me Greg, don't know (& don't care) how close it is to the original, but again, that sounds good...
Is the JVM's bottom flubby like the DSL without a boost??? Just curious, the red channel on the DSL isn't as bad, but the green is pretty flubby sounding IMO...
Here's a few pics of the panels I made today, only hung 3 of 'em on the back wall. I'll have to hang the cloud tomorrow (I'm gonna get the new girlfriend to help me), & finish up about 4 of the little ones...I've got 3 more of these size to hang, then the cloud, and however many I can make outta what Roxul I have left...Haven't even listened to anything in here since I hang these, but I did do the hand clap before/after, & it's already made a small difference just these 3 little panels...
How do you guys like my little headbanger & Gibson stickers in the back window of my Jeep????
Dunno why, but the pic of the panel up against the jeep looks like it's crooked as fuck...believe it or not, I did measure all the cuts I did today.....
You gonna buy that DSL Greg????
Is the JVM's bottom flubby like the DSL without a boost??? Just curious, the red channel on the DSL isn't as bad, but the green is pretty flubby sounding IMO...
Here's a few pics of the panels I made today, only hung 3 of 'em on the back wall. I'll have to hang the cloud tomorrow (I'm gonna get the new girlfriend to help me), & finish up about 4 of the little ones...I've got 3 more of these size to hang, then the cloud, and however many I can make outta what Roxul I have left...Haven't even listened to anything in here since I hang these, but I did do the hand clap before/after, & it's already made a small difference just these 3 little panels...
How do you guys like my little headbanger & Gibson stickers in the back window of my Jeep????
Dunno why, but the pic of the panel up against the jeep looks like it's crooked as fuck...believe it or not, I did measure all the cuts I did today....
.You gonna buy that DSL Greg????
rayc
retroreprobate
Greg,
I know folk who would kill for that tone.
The delay is subtle - too subtle really.
I can see you laughing at your self in the intro!
I know folk who would kill for that tone.
The delay is subtle - too subtle really.
I can see you laughing at your self in the intro!