Studio Projects and Neumann

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DJL said:
I think it's Japanese... but, it sounds like a mini studio project type mic... lol. :D
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Settle down, children. Rule of Comedy #1: jokes are only funny when they're based in reality.

You really aren't as clever as you think you are. Which, I guess, explains a lot.
 
robgb said:
Settle down, children. Rule of Comedy #1: jokes are only funny when they're based in reality.

You really aren't as clever as you think you are. Which, I guess, explains a lot.
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You know what's even funnier... it's not a joke. :p
 
robgb said:
Settle down, children. Rule of Comedy #1: jokes are only funny when they're based in reality.



Then it stands to reason you are not a very funny guy.
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Settle down, children. Rule of Comedy #1: jokes are only funny when they're based in reality.

You really aren't as clever as you think you are. Which, I guess, explains a lot
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Good Point, I'm sure crappy SP mics are a life and death matter and they shouldn't be laughed at. :D
 
i couldn't get my SP C1 to sound half-way pleasant. that microphone was gay to the max by my estimation. i traded it for a midi keyboard and another 57. back to the goddamn drawing board

one thing i realized is that if i write a good song (which is always), i can render a pretty good recording with just 57s. but when i recorded a good song (always) with the C1, it actually made it a lot less good. maybe i just can't handle the nuances of condenser recording. or maybe the studio projects mics are a joke. either way, i want to add myself to the group of casual hobbyists who aren't impressed

definitely try this one before you buy it. how does it compare to my nuemanns? fuck you asshole i don't have neumanns. i'll take the 57s anytime, though. those things are perfectly mediocre
 
acorec said:
robgb said:
Settle down, children. Rule of Comedy #1: jokes are only funny when they're based in reality.



Then it stands to reason you are not a very funny guy.
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Here's the difference. I'm not TRYING to be funny. I'm trying to have a discussion that actually contributes something worthwhile to home recording, and because you boys have nothing of value to contribute, you make lame jokes -- the last refuge of fools.

I have never said that SP mics are as good as Neumann mics. And I'm not stupid, I realize that some of you are simply children, trying to piss grandpa off -- but I'm afraid it ain't gonna work.

I know the value of a good, affordable mic when I hear it. If you want to sell your car and get a Neumann, more power to you. But don't waste my time with opinions that are ill-informed and immature.

If you CAN'T afford a Neumann, then Studio Projects mics are a great alternative. No, they don't match the Great God, but they come close enough for those who want to keep their car.
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but..... if you can't afford a neumann, there are alternatives that sound less crappy than the sp's. personally, i would take my 57 over the c1 anyday of the wee. the c1 is just a very crappy sounding mic when used in conjunction with my setup and limited skills
 
robgb said:
Here's the difference. I'm not TRYING to be funny. I'm trying to have a discussion that actually contributes something worthwhile to home recording, and because you boys have nothing of value to contribute, you make lame jokes -- the last refuge of fools.

I have never said that SP mics are as good as Neumann mics. And I'm not stupid, I realize that some of you are simply children, trying to piss grandpa off -- but I'm afraid it ain't gonna work.

I know the value of a good, affordable mic when I hear it. If you want to sell your car and get a Neumann, more power to you. But don't waste my time with opinions that are ill-informed and immature.

If you CAN'T afford a Neumann, then Studio Projects mics are a great alternative. No, they don't match the Great God, but they come close enough for those who want to keep their car.
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Who is his guy? Am I supposed to pay attention?
 
robgb said:
... If you want to sell your car and get a Neumann, more power to you...
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And there would still be no discernable improvement in the quality of the recordings made by the majority of people here (myself included). I'd opine that the difference you would perceive going from a C1 to a U87 in most recording setups/experience here would be lost in the poor mic placement and room acoustics (not to mention the other gear down the signal chain) overwhelming the character of the sound.

Most of us would be much better served by experience and learning with "cheap" but adequate gear, rather than thinking that nirvana is just around the corner when we get that brand "N" piece of gear.
 
cat-eggs said:
but..... if you can't afford a neumann, there are alternatives that sound less crappy than the sp's. personally, i would take my 57 over the c1 anyday of the wee. the c1 is just a very crappy sounding mic when used in conjunction with my setup and limited skills
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That really falls under the category of "Your Mileage May Vary".

There is no one mic that sounds good on all voics, let alone all sources. If you have good luck with the 57, then stick with that. You could also try the Shure SM7B. I had great luck with my C1. I sounded like ass through a B3. YMMV.
 
Studio Projects and Chinese Missiles.

slobbermonster said:
Good Point, I'm sure crappy SP mics are a life and death matter and they shouldn't be laughed at. :D
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I know you were joking, but....

State owned 797 Audio in China makes the Studio Project mics for PMI Audio Group... so if you buy PMI Audio Group (Studio Projects) products you could be helping China fund their nuclear/missile programs. :mad:
 
I have hours and hours of cds using multiple "budget mics". The mixes sound great. There's no harshness at all. If you are having trouble with harshness in your mixes, it may not be due to the gear you are using.

Brent Casey
Studio Projects Microphones
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acorec said:
Dude, you are going waaay overboard defending the budget mics vs. Neumann. Get over it. Neumanns are professional tools for use in professional studios. C1s, B1s etc. are budget mics to be used in budget studios. They will not, cannot, will never, ever, in a million years compete against one another. If a C1, B1 is all you can afford, so be it. But, don't keep beating a dead horse. Many posters on here can hear a difference and choose to use the high-end stuff. These people I am talking about (like Han, myself, Fletcher) KNOW that these budget mics ruin a mix if used on any more than a few tracks. It is a cumulative buildup of "harshness" like tape hiss builds up with more tracks. 4 Track analog vs. 24 Track analog with no noise reduction is a total difference. Hiss on 4 tracks is nowhere near hiss on 24 tracks. The former is not a big problem, the latter is unworkable.
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DJL said:
... so if you buy PMI Audio Group (Studio Projects) products you could be helping China fund their nuclear/missile programs. :mad:
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Well, if the Chinese do as good a job making missiles as they do mics, then I wouldn't worry a whole lot. :D I just worry that their missiles will sound all shrill in the high end and harsh on transients. That was just a joke, by the way.
 
chessrock said:
Well, if the Chinese do as good a job making missiles as they do mics, then I wouldn't worry a whole lot. :D I just worry that their missiles will sound all shrill in the high end and harsh on transients. That was just a joke, by the way.
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The Germans pioneered the ballistic missile, you know. That V2 sound you just can't get with a modern ICBM, whether it's Chinese, Russian, or US made :p
 
I have hours and hours of cds using multiple "budget mics". The mixes sound great. There's no harshness at all. If you are having trouble with harshness in your mixes, it may not be due to the gear you are using.
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Some of us like things to sound natural without a bunch of EQ. Sorry dude, I own a C1 and a B1 so far I haven't found anything they sound great on and they suck big time on good vocalists. The bad vocalists sound bad no matter what you put in front of them. :) They are in the sort of ok class. Mostly I keep them around in case I run out of good mics or if something breaks down, they are better than no mic that's for sure and they aren't a total doorstop.
 
slobbermonster said:
Some of us like things to sound natural without a bunch of EQ. Sorry dude, I own a C1 and a B1 so far I haven't found anything they sound great on and they suck big time on good vocalists. The bad vocalists sound bad no matter what you put in front of them. :) They are in the sort of ok class. Mostly I keep them around in case I run out of good mics or if something breaks down, they are better than no mic that's for sure and they aren't a total doorstop.
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Brent Casey said:
If you are having trouble with harshness in your mixes, it may not be due to the gear you are using.
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As in, look in the mirror, "dude".

Maybe you could let us know what great gear you are using, and post some clips of your great work using your "good mics" with your "good vocalists."
 
Gee Crazydoc didn't mean to offend you. I take it your a Studio Projects fan? Like I said it's better than no mic and it's not a doorstop like some stuff I've puchased. If I can get permission I'll be glad to send you a wav file since I also hate the sound of MP3 and think that MP3 is one of the worst things that has happened to music. But maybe you like MP3? If you do I apologize in advance for speaking about MP3 in a less than positive light. :eek:
 
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