Starting construction on new CR!

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knightfly said:
For more cloud (and other acoustic DIY) ideas, check out this

http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=41783

Steve
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Thanks Steve!

I took inspiration for my room from a member over at John Sayers - his name is Kendale. If you go to the studio construction section, you will see his thread, as well as my "Kendale Inspired" thread. I just simplified his design to fit some 703 panels that I have had laying around for years to make the cloud.
 
Lacking the mental wherewithal to even gift-wrap neatly, seeing and copying the common sense/clean look of framing such as this is really going to help, in fact, it’ll probably save me money that would have otherwise been lost to my own ill-conceived and executed design.

Thanks :)
 
NL5 said:
OK, ok, ok....

It's super simple. I went to Lowes and got 3.5" mdf trim. Take that and make a frame exactly the size of your 703. Then frame the frame with another strip of the mdf trim 90 degrees from the first. Here is a pic. If it's still unclear, i can try and explain better. I also bought a 12 volt halogen light kit from lowes. Drilled 5 holes 2 1/8" in the trim and mounted the lights.
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So if I'm reading this correctly, there is a 3.5" or so of airspace between the 703 and the side of the frame? That airspace is where the lights are located? If thats the case, is there a backing to this that the 703 is mounted to?
 
VSpaceBoy said:
So if I'm reading this correctly, there is a 3.5" or so of airspace between the 703 and the side of the frame? That airspace is where the lights are located? If thats the case, is there a backing to this that the 703 is mounted to?
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Nope. I made the upgright part of the frame EXACTLY the size of the 703, then capped it with another piece of mdf that holds up the 703. The ligts are sealed, and the insulation is right on top - these are 12 volt lights - I have checked for heat buildup, and there is NONE. I'll try and make a pic in google sketchup. It really is overly simple. I am not much of a woodworker. Read thru Kendales's thread over at John Sayers - he has way better documentation - I just simplified his design, as I had large sheets of 703 lying around - you could easily convert my desighn to 4x6 or 4x8 to fit either 3 or 4 normal sized 703 pieces.

edit - added a pic. The lights are really shallow as well, they are not even as thick as the mdf trim. They are 12 volt halogen lights sold at lowes - they are called "portfolio" - I bought a 5 pack with a 12 volt transformer for 30 bucks. Just be aware that they are not very bright - I think they are just perfect though - I wanted to add a dimmer, but after instalation, Irealized they are already pretty dim. Creates a pretty cool "vibe" in the room.
 

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Here is a pic of the "test fit" - pay no attention to my little "screw up". Measure twice, cut once..........
 

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Ok, makes sense now. It would still make me nervous though with that insulation there like that. I guess its only 12 volts though..

I like it, I think I'm going to make one like that (lights and all) for my mixing area.
 
Ron, it ain't the volts; it's the WATTS. (1 million volts, with no current, causes no heat whatsoever - til some fool grabs hold of it, that is... :=))

Just make sure that any lighting fixtures you use are RATED for SEALED use IN CONTACT WITH fiberglass insulation, and you'll be fine... Steve
 
knightfly said:
Ron, it ain't the volts; it's the WATTS. (1 million volts, with no current, causes no heat whatsoever - til some fool grabs hold of it, that is... :=))

Just make sure that any lighting fixtures you use are RATED for SEALED use IN CONTACT WITH fiberglass insulation, and you'll be fine... Steve
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Gotcha, thats good to know!
Thanks for the info!
 
knightfly said:
Ron, it ain't the volts; it's the WATTS. (1 million volts, with no current, causes no heat whatsoever - til some fool grabs hold of it, that is... :=))

Just make sure that any lighting fixtures you use are RATED for SEALED use IN CONTACT WITH fiberglass insulation, and you'll be fine... Steve
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I'm no electrician, but as Steve said,you need the proper kind of lights - these are sealed low voltage and wattage made to install under cabinets and such. I can push the insulation up and feel above and around the lights, and there isn't even a little warmth. They are only 10 watt bulbs though.
 
NL5,

Very nice work! If you agree, I will use your pics for my students (room acoustics and design). I don’t take pictures of the studios I do… and I never thought of speaker soffits done that way (removable!).

The angles of the side walls, have you opened it enough to redirect side reflections to the rear of the room?

Mike
 
sonar acoustics said:
NL5,

Very nice work! If you agree, I will use your pics for my students (room acoustics and design). I don’t take pictures of the studios I do… and I never thought of speaker soffits done that way (removable!).

The angles of the side walls, have you opened it enough to redirect side reflections to the rear of the room?

Mike
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Feel free to use them - you may want to check out John Sayers forum, and look for Kendale - that is where I got the idea from.

Also, the walls should be splayed enough to reflect first reflections to the back of the room - I followed JS advice, as well as used a mirror (thanks to Farview), and critical listening test.
 
i'm guessing the control and recording rooms are the same?
 
Doubt it. That rooms is designed to be a control room. Where are your recording rooms, and how are they set up NL5?
 
pandamonk said:
Doubt it. That rooms is designed to be a control room. Where are your recording rooms, and how are they set up NL5?
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Yes, it is strictly a control room.

My recording room is in my "Great Room" - which is approx 28 x 36 feet with vaulted ceilings that run from 8-12ft - hardwood flooring. Minimal treatments so far in there, but it sounds pretty good as is (and it's doubles as my living room, so there is only so much I can do). I have portable gobos I use to control some reflections - the only thing I am still unhappy with is the main vox tracks that still sound like the room to much (fine for hard rock, but on intimate ballad stuff, not so much - not sure what I am going to do about that yet).
 
ah...so you just run a cheap mic into their headphones?
 
cello_pudding said:
ah...so you just run a cheap mic into their headphones?
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What? I don't have a clue what you're talking about/think we're talknig about.
 
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