I'm sending this to a radio station...unless told otherwise

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Jeptha - thanks a lot for those comments...it isn't a band unfortunately it's just me. The drums were an electric kit that I recorded as stereo audio. I would probably have to redo the whole song unless I can find a way to fix it by e.q.ing or something... It's funny you should say I need more vocal effects, I normally get accused of saturation because I'm unsure of my vocal ability. I do appreciate your thoughtful detailed comments and I will consider your advice.


muzeman - thanks for giving it to me 'cold', that's why I put it up here. It's strange because some people like when I 'yell' more, as opposed to the 'mellower' voice....I am very unsure of my voice but for some reason I just keep trying to sing....I Do take your advice as help....thank you..... And I'll surely bring back the 'EBow" for the next one.;)


Emeric ----"start by getting the drums better balanced, pan the overheads more, L/R get the kick up a bit, touch more brightness to the snare"

Great advice! Thanks for describing that in simple terms. The only thing is, I played the drums on an electric kit and recorded it as audio...I don't use midi (I'm a bit slow) so I can't seperate the bass drum, snare, etc. I have it as a 2 track stereo mix. I hope I can achieve better results by working with that...........thanks a lot for your thoughts and time...


theron - thanks a lot man...I must say I was suprised at how short your response was...normally you add more constructive criticism...I'm really glad to hear that you think the vocals are O.K....I know you would tell me if you didn't....thanks again


Sonic Misfit - thanks dude...I won't try to blame the mp3 for my sorry mixing skills..I do hear what your saying......thanks for the comments.


rbw87 - thank you for the encouraging words....You are right about the vocals..I tried out a new vocal processor and before I even knew how to use it, I started recording. I also sent the vocals through a BBE Sonic Maximizer and I'm not sure if that was the best idea.....I'd like to hear your tunes...thank you again for your feedback. It is appreciated much.
 
mixmkr:D - for some reason, I laugh when I type your name..(in a good way) A song is not complete lately until I hear from you..Thanks a lot....I am very suprised at your response....It's weird because I don't think I'll say that it's me doing all the instruments to the radio guy.....It loses something when you know it's just one guy doing everything... ya know?...It's better to picture a band I think......About the whammy.......you know that's not an actual whammy bar right?....it's a whammy pedal that makes crappy guitar players like me sound halfway passable...I did the music for this before I got the J-station..and I sang it yesterday..(Tuesday) I appreciate (and have now almost come to rely on) your insight........and would appreciate any more thoughts or flames you would care to share........later dude


Lt. Bob - thanks a lot! These thoughtful words give me some hope..


Charva - thanks man..You should be sending your tunes to WBAB...I notice your from N.Y.... I think marijuana polka would go over big...thanks again man..


badmotorfinger - (I will say again I love Soundgarden)
I played drumpads. It was a Roland TD-8 hooked up to the cheap pads, because I couldn't afford V-Drums... If you have the sound module, you can get away with using the cheaper pads if you have to...thanks again for the comments



:cool:Slackmaster2k - Wow! You saying the vocals are totally fine is a great thing to hear.... I hope your not just sparing me, but I'll take it anyway... It's strange because I think the changes might be a matter of preference...some people don't like them, and for others, it's the thing they do like. That's why it's great to hear peoples music who comment.... because if you like their music, (like I do yours,) the comments have even more weight behind them....thanks again for bothering...look forward to your new tunes:cool:
 
So you played the drums on pads? That's very cool.
Kick ass song!
 
Definite Ozzman influence in the vox.

Drums sounded great for electronic. Must be because they were played live as opposed to programmed.

I usually love time/tempo changes. Some of these were good. They threw me for a bit of a loop. One thing I love about them is they make a song just as interesting on subsequent listens.

Not much for comments on the mix or tones. It sounded decent on my laptop speakers.

I personally like this style of music, so I'm a bit biased. Send 'er off to the station!
 
I'm really listening with a critical ears, so bear with me. First of all, the vocals are good. Guitar sound is great, although I usually prefer a different tone, but it works very well in this song. The part, after the chick says, "who died?", and the guitars come back in, it should be a bit more attacking, you know. It sounds like it's fade in. It would work better if it was faster attack.

Drums are a bit strange. The tom sounds very bad (at least I think it's a tom), and kick drum is a bit too muddied, probably the bass guitar overpowers it. And last but not least, the snare is a bit too dry. Could use some reverb or something.

I don't mind the tempo changes, but for a song this short, there are a bit too many of them here. Not a necessarily bad thing, but if it's played in radio, it can confuse the teeny-boppers (maybe that's a good thing after all :) ). I'm not too keen on the intro babbling either, but it's short enough.

The composition is VERY good, so don't kill me for this. These are after all, opinions, or guidances, if you like. The actual song is good enough to get attention by itself.
 
This song rocks. If the question is, is it radio ready...I'd say yes. It is well produced and a good length for radio, and very interesting to listen to.
 
B.SABBATH,

Didn't mean to sound cold,I work as a carpenter all day,and by the time I get on the computer at night my brain is fried.

So please let me add,I definatly think you should tighten it up and send it into the radio station!
It's good stuff!
And you definatly don't need to be unsure about your voice,you have a really fine one!

Best of all to ya,
Pete
 
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

i am a complete newbie so i can't critique the recording quality,
but i am an avid lover of music (the hard stuff to) and if this were a song in rotation on a radio station, i would be awaiting its play time with pregnant anticipation. IT ROCKED!!!!!!
i loved the mood swings, breaks and changes, i think i cracked my puter desk banging along!!!!!

ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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fenderlikingood said:
, i think i cracked my puter desk banging along!!!!!
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damn sabb...I don't think the compliments get any better than that!


oh yeah..the whammy wah...not the whammy bar....I realized that...unless you have the whammy wah competitor..whatever that may be.
 
do I really have to say this?

You probably know that I like your work, and this is no exception.

I agree that the low end is generally undefined, but if you had not asked I would not have minded.

The singing is quite good. Very nice texture to the vocal sound.

the whole track has that commercial energy to it.
I think you should send this to the station. Maybe clean up the low end a little.
 
With a little encouragment from the gallery.

B.
Your songs have really come along. Unless you were playing dead when you first arrived, I'd say you've come to a nice confidence and maturity, not in an "I'm too old to egg a house"sort of way, more in tune with a "I might have a degree of confidence to match my diffiance (sp?)" sort of way. You don't need any more chatter about the general fondness for the song. You do need to realise how much progress you've made. That is, of course, if you weren't being oh so timid with your first posts. If you were holding back, then to fuck and oblivion with a thing called learning. I now listen to your shit when I get heavy and want an achievable, crunchy, well tracked git sound.
Keep belting out with your stomach what your heart tells you to sing and you'll be allright.

There, you got your long and definingly obsolete comments.

Peace,

Theron.
 
Nice hard rock there bud!

I didn't like the first sound clip, but I thought the "who died" one DID work.

The guitar tone was monstrous. Nice job.

I didn't think the drums were as lacking as some of the other critics, but I'm not a drummer..... :)

The tempo changes definitely worked. Smooth.

Vocally I can hear the nod to Ozzy. I hope that was on purpose!

A bit more serious than my little ditty on acid rain. HA!

I would give it a few more listens and re-tweaks before I submitted it (if you have time) but it's radio ready otherwise.
 
badmotorfinger - thx again bro!


Lopp - appreciate the comments.....I really have to relax with some of the changes. Without a band, I experiment almost too much.... I cheked out your nowhere page and it says 'straight ahead metal'...I'd really like to hear some of your other stuff...thanks again


Cranky One - As I'm typing this I have your version of 'Tyrant' playing with the guitar vocals..It definitely sounds better then the song I have up here now....no doubt.....I totally hear what your saying and appreciate the commentary. I always like your straight up feedback.. I may try to re-mix this, I am still unsure..I did a stupid thing with this one...I tried to make it sound good on computer speakers by using a different mixing technique.....it didn't work out as well as hoped.....thanks again "Crank" I'll let you know when the vocals for 'Tyrant" begin..it should be soon........BUT not for nothing, I really like this 'guitar vocals' version you did..................A LOT.


sonnylarsen - thank you for those positive comments...It really helps...


muzeman - I'm a plumber so I know how you feel:D You gave me the exact response I asked for and it didn't make me feel bad....it made me feel good that you bothered at all....thanks a lot bro...I do appreciate it..:)
 
B.SABBATH said:
hey

A friend told me to drop this off at a local radio station (102.3WBAB) I called.... and they play Long Island "homegrown" bands at night...I can only give them one song and was told this should be it because it's the newest and the most radio friendly I have.

I would like to hear if the vocals are good...Please be brutal.....Everyone around me here says that it's really good, but I think they're just being nice.....so you don't have to be...:)

prepare your flamethrowers.... and if you would.....give it to me 'cold'..... because I need to hear it sucks if it does....

Thanks if you bother..............................the song is'unwell'
www.nowhereradio.com/samij/singles
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I like the tune, man! Anytime you have a chance to get some REAL airplay, go for it.

The one thing that I have learned in the short time I have been around is that it really doesn't matter one bit what other's opinions are as far as a song goes. (Ya know, opinions are like noses, everyone has one.) When you are doing original music, be yourself, man.

As far as the mix goes, the kick drum needs to be brought out a bit more and cleared up as it is clashing with the bass. But that is MY opinion.

You have alot of talent Bro! Figure out what ya REALLY want to do with it and where ya want it to go. Get the tune on the air!

BHS;

CR
Bethel

Bethel MP3's: http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/9/1352/singles.shtml
 
fenderlikingood - That is truly a great response...thank you for that.......it almost makes me think I did something halfway decent....and it made my day!..thx again


mixmkr - Avoid the Whammy/Wah! I used to have that and it was very noisy....it also didnt have a true bypass....even when it was off it took away from the power of the distortion...I love the BOSS PS-5 pitchshifter pedal with the Roland EV-5 expression pedal.....whammy heaven.......even with my telecaster:eek: :D (with a hot rail pickup)


CyanJaguar - I hear what your saying about the low end...I may try to clean it up...I used some different mixing techniques...but they didn't work.....thank you for your feedback and the positive vocal remarks.....I really need them:)


theron - :D Dude, you rule! I like your attitude......if there's any progress, I would think all credit should go to this board for giving me the cold hard facts.....I can't get that anywhere else...Your feedback is both inspiring and intelligent..... I would think in the real world, you would be a very cool cat..........no doubt...........thanks bro


drstawl - Thanks a lot! I think some tweaking is in order.....the sound clips were a replacemant for a girls voice that I recorded from my answering machine....It went sour with her, so I replaced her voice with movie samples from"Shadow of the Vampire" After your suggestion to check out some 'King Crimson," I have become a fan....I appreciate that....thanks again for taking the time,and I look forward to your new,unique brand of tunes...


Thank you again to everyone who bothered.....you can always count on me for a listen and comment of your tunes..:D
 
Axe4Yahweh,

Thanks a lot for those words.....I have been hearing that the drums are among the problems with this.... I'm just glad that most of the problems seem to be minor....or maybe most people are just in a good mood today:) I appreciate your encouraging advice....

later dude:cool:

B
 
Rockin' song, your singing is getting abetter and I like the guitar.
It does sound a little muddy but I would send it anyway. I agree with everyone.
 
Very creative song. I don't like the drum sound much but Im reading that your working on that. The guitars sound pretty good for a pod. I'm not a big fan of amp sims and electronic drum kits but thats my loss I guess.
Good song but and send it in, why not.
 
well, I've been listening to your stuff non-stop for the past week... and now sorting through the threads here I realize, "hey, it's that B Sabbath guy." doh!

I can't honestly think of anything to change, you do extremely cool stuff. Great vocals, that was the first thing that grabbed me about your work, followed by the really complete songs.

If radio doesnt get it, it's their loss because I've been enjoying it on my winamp playlist for days now.
 
Hey B.

This is great... what do you do to get such a full sound? oh and one thing that I don't think anyone has mentioned. radio may stray away because of the unauthorized content (samples and stuff) I have run into this with my techno project. good luck though sound is great...

plummet
www.tamedbychaos.com
 
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