How Different Are These Compressors?

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Smokepole said:
I already have one on it's way from Mercenary.
I'll be interested to see how you like it. Mine is on it's way too. I'm really looking forward to having an improved signal chain with the RNC and a nice pre.
 
Smokepole said:
chessrock
What's your view on using the downward compression?

All my compression is software, and I haven't had a need for downward compression that I can think of. :) I've sold all my outboard compressors, which basically sat and collected dust, with the exception of the Joemeek, that is. Speaking of software, the RNC shares a lot in common with a DAW plugin, if you study it's design. It sort of is like a comp plugin in a box in a lot of ways. The compression is handled mostly in a dsp, out of the way of the actual audio path, from what I understand.

I can't wait to get my UAD powered plugins. These things are supposed to have unbelieveable compressors modeled after some classics. Aparently, they do a convincing immitation of the real deal, and blow any other software plugin comp out of the water. We'll see.
 
Just to clarify, the controls of the RNC are digital/DSP, but the actual audio path is completely analog. Here's the quote from the site -
"The RNC achieves such high performance at a low cost by using evolutionary advances in digital technology, coupled with the best analog has to offer. Using digital controls and an all-analog signal path, the RNC offers accurate, precise controls and a clean tonal character. " (http://www.fmraudio.com)
I actually don't use my RNCs that much anymore. I've gotten more comfortable tracking without it (at a lower level so I don't clip), but I do 24-bits so I still retain the detail. I compress in N-Track during mixing. The RenComp automatically goes on my vocals, and on most acoustic guitar tracks.

I still use the RNCs when tracking others, since they don't seem to understand the ramifications of digital clipping :)


chessrock said:


<snip>Speaking of software, the RNC shares a lot in common with a DAW plugin, if you study it's design. It sort of is like a comp plugin in a box in a lot of ways. The compression is handled mostly in a dsp, out of the way of the actual audio path, from what I understand.

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Kind of sounds like what I said. On a dsp card out of the way of the actual audio path. I really need to stop being so vague around here. :D

When all is said and done, though, the end result is very similar to what you'd get from the Renaissanace Comp or similar plugin, right? The characteristics of the comp, itself, if I understand correctly, come from the dsp card. Am I correct? But without the a/d conversion and without the danger of digital rounding errors. Sort of like the best of both worlds.

I could be totally off-the-mark here, but this is what I gathered when Harvey was explaining it to me.
 
hey chessrock,

got my uad card installed monday and let me tell you it will blow you away. So far all I've messed with are the Pultec (incredible on shaping low end and bringing out high end sparkle) the La-2a (makes everything sound huge) and the 1176 (seems to inhance clarity and depth). can't wait to try out the realverb and nigel.

Greg
 
I know where to get RNC's for 154!!! hehehe. Maybe I should sell some on e-bay.
 
tyler657recpro said:
I know where to get RNC's for 154!!! hehehe. Maybe I should sell some on e-bay.

Wow. You could make a whole $11 every time you sold one. Maybe even $35! You'll be rich in no time.
 
lets see, if I sell 1000 every year, thats 11 to 35 thousand dollars! nevermind. I think ill go into the softdrink business where you make like a thousand percent profit.

5 cents to fill a 32 ounce cup. I'll charge a 1.50. :D
 
gregkat said:
got my uad card installed monday and let me tell you it will blow you away. So far all I've messed with are the Pultec (incredible on shaping low end and bringing out high end sparkle) the La-2a (makes everything sound huge) and the 1176 (seems to inhance clarity and depth). can't wait to try out the realverb and nigel.

That's what I keep hearing about them. People just seem to love the compression and eq. I've heard the Nigel is also pretty good. Disappointingly, I have heard the Realverb still isn't much of a step forward for plugin reverbs.

Apparently, UAD is aware of this, and will be releasing "Dreamverb," which supposedly is a no-compromises reverb plug that really takes advantage of the added power you get with the dsp card. Finally, we'll be looking at a verb plugin that will compete sonically with an outboard box.

I really don't care, though. From all the rants and raves I've heard about the compression and eq, that's reason enough to make it my next buy.
 
Retailing business

tyler657recpro said:
lets see, if I sell 1000 every year, thats 11 to 35 thousand dollars! ....

(i) If you sell 1000 a year, (ii) before overhead, (iii) without considering the capital you need to devote to this little project (your inventory will cost you $154,000), (iv) how much of your time do you really want to spend on this anyway (some people actually make considerably more than 11 to 35 thousand dollars a year)?

Bottom line: if your business plan is to go into retailing a single product, buying it at marked-down retail (rather than wholesale, which is the price your competitors buy it for) and selling it by auction on eBay, you probably need a new business plan.
 
please dont start talking about the UAD card...cus im gonna have to get one.....ive heard it's awesome.
 
The Obie quote really raised my brows as I was reading the issue. Picture Obie coming in to Jons studio, into a room with an SSL, with something under his arm, Jon looks a the big B and goes..."What the f...., are you insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Food for your thought.
 
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