Five hunderd bucks for this???

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ecktronic said:
$500! Rip off. I would mix those 5 songs for $70 and get better results.

Eck
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I gotta tell you the truth man. I listened to your "mixes" on your myspace page, and I would pay that other studio, but I wouldn't give you a dime to mix/master anything for me. They have a "sound" that resembles something big time. Much of your stuff really misses the point of the genre, and it sounds like you "force" the sound to fit your meager idea of how it should sound.
 
gummblefish said:
So, do you not recognise the problems in the mix? Problems that i happen to think are down to the Mixing engineer to solve....vocals are awful. By the way mate ive worked in 5 paying studios and ran my own. Believe me i know whats involved. Im not saying the engineers are shit, but the job is certainly rushed...its not a finished product, which is WHAT THE CUSTOMER WANTS. The studio set the price, now whether or not anyone feels its too high or too little is beside the point. Who knows what went wrong, but this inst a finished product, and just so you know, i would never have let this leave my studio and in the past have worked until ive got the job finished.
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Well, we can see why you have time to post here then! Most of the guys that I know making a living running studios don't have time to post here. ;)

Again, it is about giving the customer what THEY want. Once they PAY YOU, you have NO say what leaves your studio and what doesn't. Get real!
 
Farview said:
I used to do this, but I ended up giving someone a $2000 job for $300. Then when they come back, just as unprepared, they expect that I will just fix their screw-ups for free. They don't learn anything, they don't try to get better and I end up working for free.

If you are doing this as a hobby, you can get away with it, if you are trying to make a living, it isn't worth it.
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I agree! When people come to me now, I tell them my price PER HOUR. They can pay me for as much as they want, but I won't work for free. I have many past accomplishments to "prove" my worth, and if they don't think my time is worth what I ask for it, then they need to move on to somebody else who they can afford, even if that means a hit in the quality of the production. I have done my time in the cheapy market!
 
Ford Van said:
I gotta tell you the truth man. I listened to your "mixes" on your myspace page, and I would pay that other studio, but I wouldn't give you a dime to mix/master anything for me. They have a "sound" that resembles something big time. Much of your stuff really misses the point of the genre, and it sounds like you "force" the sound to fit your meager idea of how it should sound.
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lol.
I aint forcing anything dude. I mix it to the way I feel it should sound. Or wait! am I meant to copy other peoples styles of mixing just so people praise my work? No chance!


Eck
 
Ford Van said:
Well, we can see why you have time to post here then! Most of the guys that I know making a living running studios don't have time to post here. ;)

Again, it is about giving the customer what THEY want. Once they PAY YOU, you have NO say what leaves your studio and what doesn't. Get real!
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Your the one that needs to "Get Real" man, you go around patronising people like that and you aint gonna get any buisness, no matter how shit hot you think you are.
 
Not as bad as some here say

The mix was the least of the problems to me. The guitar sound was awful, and maybe the guitar player set up his effects that way. What is an engineer going to do? Ask the guitar player to play a different guitar or use a different distortion pedal? The clips I heard was of a band that has no dynamics in their playing, with crappy vocals, crappy guitar sound, mushy bass, and a flat mix. The mix was not very good, but for $500 how much mixing and mastering on top of 4 songs being recorded did you expect? Really?
 
I beleive it is the engineers job (duty!) to get a good sound from a recording session. If the musicians are stubborn and wont let the engineer do his job then they deserve a bad recording.
Not to say that this is what happened in this particular case, jusy saying. :)

Eck
 
The bottom line is: If this was a well written and arranged song, nobody would be questioning the sound.
 
sounds bad for a pro job.they should have just spent the money on a recorder! :) :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
I think that the more records you put out the better. Make sure the customer is happy and then send them along if your gonna have a studio where you let people come in and record from the street then your just asking for shit recordings in my opinion. They are renting the studio not paying for a good recording well at least thats the way I see it or the way I would do it in my own studio.

You rent the studio and the day after I mix everything and then you get your copy and I send you off bye bye. You didn't pay for a primo recording that sounds professional and your gonna hear on MTV cause you cant just do that by recording.
 
This is a serious question, not sarcasm: Can anyone give me an example of a bad arrangement and sloppy playing that ended up sounding good through skillful mixing? Given the level of mixing skill that's out there I'm sure it's happened.

Tim
 
$500 for 3 songs? It's a wonder it doesn't sound worse. Doesn't anyone know what a real production costs? The mixes on my soundclick cost 10 times that PER SONG (except the Munsters thing, but that had to take 5 or 6 hours at $50/hr)

Holy shit, what do you want for nothing?
 
Farview said:
The bottom line is: If this was a well written and arranged song, nobody would be questioning the sound.
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Yes we would. We are a bunch of Audio snobbs. I find things I don't like about Million dollar albums. But that is a good point. If this were an amazingly written song with so-so production it would show (Kings of Leon first album comes to mind). But unfortunately This is bad production of a pretty shitty rip-off screamo band. So Everyone hates it. :D
 
ecktronic said:
lol.
I aint forcing anything dude. I mix it to the way I feel it should sound. Or wait! am I meant to copy other peoples styles of mixing just so people praise my work? No chance!


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Well, maybe you should. What you are doing doesn't work so well.
 
gummblefish said:
Your the one that needs to "Get Real" man, you go around patronising people like that and you aint gonna get any buisness, no matter how shit hot you think you are.
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I don't "think" I am hot shit. I KNOW I am hot shit.
 
Just in case you all wanna make sure! ;)

http://www.phoenixlightandsound.com/Audio

Some of this is crap music with hurried productions, others are well funded projects. You will hear the difference.

In particular, Sky Blue Mind, Heavy Brothers, Porterhouse, The Red Sector, BOD (Better Off Dad, Chris and Jaimee Harris) and the Ford Brothers (the two brothers of Roben Ford.........). There are some scattered live mixes in there that are worth a listen.
 
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