wfaraoni
ear art's not a science
darrin_h2000 said:
Actually if you can't find one anywhere else for that price and want a brand New one PM me. Ive got access to 2 brand new with warrantee @ 160 ea. + shipping.
Peace
Bill
Actually if you can't find one anywhere else for that price and want a brand New one PM me. Ive got access to 2 brand new with warrantee @ 160 ea. + shipping.
Peace
Bill
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Fleaflicker
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Where?
Where did you find the DMP3 for $119?
Bill
Where did you find the DMP3 for $119?
Bill
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Rev E
New member
Guitar Center. Their list price is $199, but many here have gotten it for $119. Check the threads on this. Print a couple of the threads out and bring it in to GC. You should be able to get it for the lower price...
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DJL
Self Banned
This is a good thread. 
tubedude
New member
I think it was acorec that mentioned that the RNP was Chapion for awhile until something else cheap came along.
Well, the RNP is still the champ in that ballpark and is the better value in every case.
Let me start by saying that I had a dispute with FMR (more specifically, that moron Jake over at Humbucker music, may he rot in hell that fat bastard) about QC on the early ones, and I am in no way trying to make a sale for FMR, I'm just stating the obvious.
Its under $240 a channel... if you cant afford $240 for a preamp channel then delete your sign on here and go on over to underwaterbasketweavers.com and start on your new hobby cause you are in the wrong one right now.
Lets talk differences here.
Build quality: RNP has a solid thick aluminum base.
DMP3, VTB1, etc... cheapo pots in most cases. RNP has a gain switch... thats right, a very high grade detented gain switch instead of a cheap pot. Chances are you'll never have a problem with the switch, getting it dirty and scratchy, wearing it out, etc...
The RNP will retain its resale value MUCH better...
The RNP will live as long as 3 DMP3's
The RNP will stack tracks better and sound better on more things than the others will...
I think you can see where the real value is at, its pretty clear.
The RNP had a ton of sweat and stress go into the circuit design, and its a good one. Has some color, still clean.
Also makes for a very nice D.I. on bass, while many are thin and crappy.
Go with an RNP, just dont get it from humbucker music. Mercenary will hook you up, and even double your warranty for free.
Well, the RNP is still the champ in that ballpark and is the better value in every case.
Let me start by saying that I had a dispute with FMR (more specifically, that moron Jake over at Humbucker music, may he rot in hell that fat bastard) about QC on the early ones, and I am in no way trying to make a sale for FMR, I'm just stating the obvious.
Its under $240 a channel... if you cant afford $240 for a preamp channel then delete your sign on here and go on over to underwaterbasketweavers.com and start on your new hobby cause you are in the wrong one right now.
Lets talk differences here.
Build quality: RNP has a solid thick aluminum base.
DMP3, VTB1, etc... cheapo pots in most cases. RNP has a gain switch... thats right, a very high grade detented gain switch instead of a cheap pot. Chances are you'll never have a problem with the switch, getting it dirty and scratchy, wearing it out, etc...
The RNP will retain its resale value MUCH better...
The RNP will live as long as 3 DMP3's
The RNP will stack tracks better and sound better on more things than the others will...
I think you can see where the real value is at, its pretty clear.
The RNP had a ton of sweat and stress go into the circuit design, and its a good one. Has some color, still clean.
Also makes for a very nice D.I. on bass, while many are thin and crappy.
Go with an RNP, just dont get it from humbucker music. Mercenary will hook you up, and even double your warranty for free.
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Simmons
New member
I tested the VTB-1 and thought it was nice, but I bought the DMP3 because it had two channels and good reviews. I also picked up two Oktava 012's from the Guitar Center when I was in the US in August. I was more than a little surprised at the quality. The DMP3 and the Oktava 012 is a great combination for acoustic guitar. I couldn't be happier for the money I spent.
Next month I'll be getting the one channel Great River ME-1NV. I'm anxious to hear the difference between it and my other mic-pres.
Next month I'll be getting the one channel Great River ME-1NV. I'm anxious to hear the difference between it and my other mic-pres.
Middleman
Professional Amateur
Actually I did the DMP3 vs Great River shootout last year. Uh, well, let's just say you better start saving your money. Can you say barn burning, leave em in the dust, already on the horizon before the other preamp lights up.
No comparison really and to be expected given one is $200 and the other $1100.
That said the DMP3 does a respectable job on stringed instruments and at the very least doesn't mess up things to the side and background in a mix.
No comparison really and to be expected given one is $200 and the other $1100.
That said the DMP3 does a respectable job on stringed instruments and at the very least doesn't mess up things to the side and background in a mix.
CoolCat
Well-known member
Dmp3
i never heard of DMP3 until the gang here's threads.
very happy with it, never used a pre before (knowingly)..
wasted alot of time changing out mic's to no avail...even the $400
dollar mic's were tried which didn't make a difference
in the old Yammie MD8...
was so impressed i bought a recommended SP B1 and now a RNC...
really is a bang for the entry-level bucks.
but you know someone with talent can do more with less, than some do with more or less like if they had too much to drink and was up late on HomeRecording Dot Com.
i never heard of DMP3 until the gang here's threads.
very happy with it, never used a pre before (knowingly)..
wasted alot of time changing out mic's to no avail...even the $400
dollar mic's were tried which didn't make a difference
in the old Yammie MD8...
was so impressed i bought a recommended SP B1 and now a RNC...
really is a bang for the entry-level bucks.
but you know someone with talent can do more with less, than some do with more or less like if they had too much to drink and was up late on HomeRecording Dot Com.
johneeeveee
New member
jslator said:
i think the vtb-1 sounds better... just thought you'd like to hear from both sides.
johneeeveee
New member
tubedude said:
with all due respect, that is unfair and untrue... great records have been made on 4 trk cassette decks and other inexpensive equipment. skills on both sides of the signal chain are much more important than the gear itself.
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acorec
Banned
johneeeveee said:
I think that *legendary* and *interesting for fans* type of records have been made on 4 track cassette decks. No great *sounding* records have been made as the cassette format will not allow this to happen. There is no 4 track cassette deck that can even remotely sound as good as a 2" reel to reel machine let alone a 1/2" machine. In this case, the limiting factor is the format recorded to and the best engineer on the planet cannot compensate for this.
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Mach5
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DMP3 for $99
actually... Guitar Center can special order DMP3's for $99.. plus a $5 special order fee. However.. I ordered mine almost 3 weeks ago.. and the order still hasn't been "confirmed" by M-Audio. So who knows..
actually... Guitar Center can special order DMP3's for $99.. plus a $5 special order fee. However.. I ordered mine almost 3 weeks ago.. and the order still hasn't been "confirmed" by M-Audio. So who knows..
johneeeveee
New member
acorec said:
i disagree, but that was not my point. for someone to claim that if you don't have $240 per channel to spend on a preamp, that you should hang it up and go find another hobby was an unfair statement to make. i'm not comparing digital to analog, cassette to reel to reel, or anything to anything. i'm simply stating that there is some decent gear out there that is quite inexpensive, and with a bit of skill by both the artist and the engineer (who are often one in the same in home studios), some great recordings can be made. i find it funny that someone would shoot down a budding artist with limited funds, and tell him to quit unless he can afford to spend a bunch of money. this is a homerecording forum that should champion folks recording on lesser gear, as well as those with home studios that rival professional studios.
to compare 4trk cassette recording to 2" reels is ridiculous, but there is a sound to cassette multitracks that is all it's own. i personally think cassette recordings by elliott smith, neutral milk hotel, devendra banhart, pj harvey, and others sound great to me. sound is subjective, and fidelity isn't everything. i recorded my last record on 2" tape with very high end mics and pre's, and i'm now recording an ep at home with my 244 and much lesser mics. they will both have their merits, and be completely different animals. i enjoy this forum, but get pissed off when i see someone being a gear snob to someone just looking for some advice.
tkingen
Djembes Rock
acorec said:
Agreed! I remember when the first Fostex X-15 cassette 4-track was introduced to market. The advertising had a picture of the Sgt Pepper album, alluding to the fact that it was done with a 4 track machine. Even George Martin and the Beatles couldn't have made Sgt Pepper sound the way it does with a cassette 4-track. The laws of physics are the laws of physics. Great talent can make the most of lesser components, but they cannot make those components acheive what they cannot do.
All of the theoretical arguments that finished product is solely in the hands of the talent involved is like saying a VW Bug could win the NASCAR trophy if the right driver was behind the wheel.
Regards,
Terry
johneeeveee
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tkingen said:
do you guys even fully read a reply before you reply yourself? i obviously wasn't trying to say any of what you are insinuating. reread my posts if you like, but i give up.
CoolCat
Well-known member
sounds like everyones stating the obvious. about escorts and Ferrari's..i don't think anyone is that fhkng dillusional that you can make a $100 item perfom like Abbey Roads studio or wherever?? whoooa.... for godsake listen to these
fhkng Anthology sht everyone is putting out....surprised the distortion doesn't blow the speakers!... to me thats the Proof in the pudding between Abbey Roads and laying down a Home Demo. Same song..same singers...
sht vs. fantastic
i love this site and enjoy people sharing the inputs.
It helps save time and money...and is basically good reading.IMO.
Seems the few who have tried the DMP3 and VTB1 both, could better compare.
to the gear snob telling the peasents to hang it up
...fhk off.go hang yourself.. you fhkng suit.
fhkng Anthology sht everyone is putting out....surprised the distortion doesn't blow the speakers!... to me thats the Proof in the pudding between Abbey Roads and laying down a Home Demo. Same song..same singers...
sht vs. fantastic
i love this site and enjoy people sharing the inputs.
It helps save time and money...and is basically good reading.IMO.
Seems the few who have tried the DMP3 and VTB1 both, could better compare.
to the gear snob telling the peasents to hang it up
...fhk off.go hang yourself.. you fhkng suit.
tkingen
Djembes Rock
johneeeveee said:
Actually, I'm at work and did not read this full thread. I was responding to acorec's response to your post about great records being made on cassette 4 tracks. That is all.
That being said, we probably agree wholeheartedly that lesser gear has it's place and should not be a reason to stifle creativity. Everyone should use whatever they want to use.
Regards,
Terry
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acorec
Banned
johneeeveee said:
I agree with this. You should not let the high $$$ stuff be your creative limit. Hell, I used the cheapest stuff for years way back and nobody ever told me thta my recordings sounded bad. My recordings back then were always considered to be done in a pro studio and they always got compliments. Gear snobbery is when someone discounts anything because of name and $$$. There is some low $$ stuff that is great and some that is not. It is up to the individual to find out what works for them. This is the hardest thing to do in practice because you have to have the stuff in your studio to really know how it will work. The high end stuff is never a gamble and always useful on something, maybe what you don't want right now.
The difference is that high end stuff is ultimately resellable and you can get your $$$ back if it does'nt work for you.
tkingen
Djembes Rock
COOLCAT said:
I'm not sure who you are referring to here, but I hope it wasn't me. Most of my gear is budget stuff and I own a DMP3. I'd never advocate that anyone give up and would always recommend that they don't. I would recommend to get the best equipment you can afford and do the best you can with it, whether it be a DMP3, VTB-1, Avalon 737, or whatever else you choose to spend money on.
Terry