DIY thread.....

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frederic said:
What year truck/cab style is it? I've been working slowly at figuring out how to do an air suspension for my F350 crewcab, however I do not necessarily want to lower and raise the truck, or "slam" it into the weeds. Stock height is fine for me, just want to smooth out the ride when it's unloaded, and air it up for hauling.

A mini....1995 singlecab, shortbox Nissan Hardbody XE; fully shaved including squirters, door handles, tailgate, bumber, antenna, emblems, badge holes, etc. floss'in primer right now, forward facing triangulated 4-link, dual tier conveluted air bags, 1/2" solenoid valves, pathfinder rims with 205/50/15 V-rated street tires, short shifter, GT steering wheel, Acura Integra GSR bucket seats, 8in monster frame-rail notch, custom bridge, custom dash bezels, shaved interior pieces, ................wow sounds like a lot but I have miles to go! LOL

I better stop before this turns into a Hotrodder forum
 
  • Custom desk to fit my recording shit
  • modified Furman patch bays to work as solder bays instead of 1/4 inch rear jacks
  • Computer from the ground up
  • about 15 guitars for myself (but of course, I make money building guitars for other people. The ones I have for myself are mostly prototypes that are not quite perfect)
  • I'm about to make a new amp

I guess that is about it for music stuff. Nothing on my car (I have other things to worry about than my car. It gets me where I am going, and I am happy with that).


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mshilarious said:
Well I like to pick and choose my DIY carefully, since my time is limited. So I only do stuff that is much cheaper than buying, or stuff I can't buy.

There is no way I could build cabinets for as cheap (time and materials) as you can buy used stereo speakers--find 'em with blown drivers if you can.

As for drivers/crossovers, the easy answer is to use the same drivers as one of the kits, whether you use the kit or not, and select a box the same size as the one in the kit. Beyond that you ought to pick up a book on speaker design and learn what all those stats mean.

Crossover frequency is very dependent on the drivers you select. I feel that lower is better, but then the crossover parts are more expensive. I use the lowest frequency the tweeter can support, which was 2 kHz in my case. I wouldn't go with a three-way setup, that's another driver, more crossover parts, more complexity in getting the design right, for little benefit.
I'll get one of those books. I read one way back when I was like 17. I was into building inclosures for cars. I made a couple sweet ones but they weren't sealed right. DAMN ELMERS! Thx for your time ms. I'll be seein ya around.
I'm frickin addicted to this site lol.



L8er,
livilaNic
 
Acoustic treatment
Desk
Speaker switcher
Pre-amp
modded 3630 (now it sucks not as much)
most of my cables
racks
acoustic guitar
tube amp
 
notbradsohner said:
modded 3630 (now it sucks not as much)



What did you do to it? I hate mine. Maybe you can give me some pointers? Thx.



l8er,
livilaNic
 
Well, I used existing cabinets so for me it was choosing drivers that would like that cabinet. The original awia drivers were absolute crap, but I did very much like the shape of the cabinet - for cheap home theater speakers they are very well put together IMHO, so I wanted to recycle. Anyway, since the tweeter is enclosed, meaning the back of the cone is in a sealed chamber, I didn't have to take into consideration interior volume for that driver - only the frequency range, how flat its response is, and diameter (to fill existing hole).

LF drivers required finding a pair of drivers that liked to share the internal volume of the cabinet (or slightly less, you can reduce interior volume but can't add volume without redoing the cabinets). I didn't want ported enclosures as that introduces yet another variable, so this was just a research issue, but this is why I chose the drivers that I did.

Once you have the drivers high and low (or mid if its a 3-way), you now know the crossover frequencies based on the documentation from the manufacturers. Then you can design your crossover from there, and adjust the HF roll-off for the woofers, and the LF roll-off for the tweeters based on their effectiveness just below, at, and just above their indicated crossover frequency. Then solder!

If you're making monitors from scratch, you might consider a kit. There are various speaker companies that offer kits, some nicer than others. Dayton I think is one of them... and if you google for "Ariel speakers" you'll find tons of pages on DIY speakers, which more importantly has a lot of the math you'll need to do the calculations yourself, even if you don't build yourself a pair of those.
 
Modifying an Alesis 3630
By Peter Purpose
Dec 1, 2002, 13:0

While going through the posts at rec.audio.pro some time ago, I came across the subject line 'Alesis 3630 famous sound quality'. It was primarily about why the 3630 is so vehemently despised by the Pro Audio fraternity and why a box that seemed to have all the bells and whistles sounded so bad, and could anything be done about it?

I followed the thread religiously, namely because I had one of the offending boxes in my rack and thought it would be a good way to dip my toes in the waters of gear modding, without the fear of destroying what was essentially a box of lights.

So armed with the pearls of wisdom dispensed by the luminaries at r.a.p. I set about finding the parts needed to turn this marvel of modern marketing into something it clearly (according to the pros) was not.

I'm not saying that if you follow these steps that you'll have an 1176 or an LA3-A, but the quality of sound exiting the box will be vastly improved merely by swapping out a few components.

This may be an opportune moment to inform you that if you choose to carry out any of the mods described henceforth, that Uncle Alesis will not be best pleased and will not honour any warrantee you may have remaining. I can also not take responsibility for your injury or death in the event that you're a complete incompetent. ' ELECTRICITY CAN KILL YOU'. If you don't have a rudimentary grasp of the pitfalls of working with electricity, get someone who knows what they're doing to watch over you, or better still get them to do it.

First thing to do is get on to your friendly electronics supplier. From him/her get yourself 3 Burr Brown OPA4132PA quad op amps and sockets for same. A pair of THAT 2180 VCA's, a pair of THAT 2252's and sockets for that lot and what could possibly be the most important part, a 1 amp 9V a/c power supply.

Right, get your 3630 out of the rack/cupboard/bin/attic/box and remove any electrical supply that may be hanging out of the back of it. Find a nice container and remove all the plastic jack holders on the rear panel, pull all the knobs (ooh er mrs) from the front panel and undo all the nuts retaining the pots and put them safely into the nice container you found. Remove the rack ears and your 3630 should now fall apart nicely.

Take a moment to look at the circuit board and locate the chips marked LF347N. These are going to be replaced with the Burr Browns. Locate the chips marked DBX2150, these will be replaced with THAT 2180's and the DBX 2252's will become THAT 2252's. Make a note of the orientation of all the chips. There are markings on all chips and circuit boards and inadvertently putting these things in the wrong way round will result mostly in a puff of smoke, so make notes or take pictures for reference.

If you think you can, try not to cut the legs of the DBX2150's and save them, you just may find a use for them in the Gyraf SSL clone project found at Group DIY: Kev

Cut the legs on the LF347N chips above the circuit board with a small sharp pair of side cutters. Try to leave a bit of leg to grab hold of. The chips are worth half of nothing, so don't worry about saving them for your grandchildren. The chips should fall off the board with ease. If you have pets or small people, find them and bin them (the chips not the children). Fire up your soldering iron and tin it. Hold it against each pin on the underside of the pcb and with your third hand pull the cut pins through the pcb with your cutters or small pliers. When you've done that lot, make sure that you can see well through all the holes you've now made in the pcb. If there is solder obstructing any of them, you're going to have a spot of trouble getting the sockets in, so a solder sucker or my personal new friend de-soldering wick will have to be brought into play. Nice clean holes? Then proceed to solder in the sockets making sure they are the right way round.

Do the same with the DBX 2150 and 2252 parts and you are virtually there. Make sure you haven't connected any points together. Using a continuity tester here will tell you whether any adjacent points have become attracted, but some may by design be joined so it might be an idea to test all points and make notes before you even start this malarky.

Install all your lovely new chips into their respective sockets, double checking that they are the right way round.

Now, one last thing. Get a nice thick piece of copper wire and strap all the input and output grounds together.

Admire your handywork for a moment or two and if you've mustered enough courage and there are no children or animals in the vicinity, introduce the new power supply into it's socket and being careful to keep your hands well away from the pcb, turn it on.

No smoke? Then the chances are that you've just made your 3630 into something resembling what it should have been in the first place. Unhook the power, bolt that sucker back together and put it in the rack.

Have fun
 
notbradsohner said:
Modifying an Alesis 3630
By Peter Purpose
Dec 1, 2002, 13:0

While going through the posts at rec.audio.pro some time ago, I came across the subject line 'Alesis 3630 famous sound quality'. It was primarily about why the 3630 is so vehemently despised by the Pro Audio fraternity and why a box that seemed to have all the bells and whistles sounded so bad, and could anything be done about it?

I followed the thread religiously, namely because I had one of the offending boxes in my rack and thought it would be a good way to dip my toes in the waters of gear modding, without the fear of destroying what was essentially a box of lights.

So armed with the pearls of wisdom dispensed by the luminaries at r.a.p. I set about finding the parts needed to turn this marvel of modern marketing into something it clearly (according to the pros) was not.

I'm not saying that if you follow these steps that you'll have an 1176 or an LA3-A, but the quality of sound exiting the box will be vastly improved merely by swapping out a few components.

This may be an opportune moment to inform you that if you choose to carry out any of the mods described henceforth, that Uncle Alesis will not be best pleased and will not honour any warrantee you may have remaining. I can also not take responsibility for your injury or death in the event that you're a complete incompetent. ' ELECTRICITY CAN KILL YOU'. If you don't have a rudimentary grasp of the pitfalls of working with electricity, get someone who knows what they're doing to watch over you, or better still get them to do it.

First thing to do is get on to your friendly electronics supplier. From him/her get yourself 3 Burr Brown OPA4132PA quad op amps and sockets for same. A pair of THAT 2180 VCA's, a pair of THAT 2252's and sockets for that lot and what could possibly be the most important part, a 1 amp 9V a/c power supply.

Right, get your 3630 out of the rack/cupboard/bin/attic/box and remove any electrical supply that may be hanging out of the back of it. Find a nice container and remove all the plastic jack holders on the rear panel, pull all the knobs (ooh er mrs) from the front panel and undo all the nuts retaining the pots and put them safely into the nice container you found. Remove the rack ears and your 3630 should now fall apart nicely.

Take a moment to look at the circuit board and locate the chips marked LF347N. These are going to be replaced with the Burr Browns. Locate the chips marked DBX2150, these will be replaced with THAT 2180's and the DBX 2252's will become THAT 2252's. Make a note of the orientation of all the chips. There are markings on all chips and circuit boards and inadvertently putting these things in the wrong way round will result mostly in a puff of smoke, so make notes or take pictures for reference.

If you think you can, try not to cut the legs of the DBX2150's and save them, you just may find a use for them in the Gyraf SSL clone project found at Group DIY: Kev

Cut the legs on the LF347N chips above the circuit board with a small sharp pair of side cutters. Try to leave a bit of leg to grab hold of. The chips are worth half of nothing, so don't worry about saving them for your grandchildren. The chips should fall off the board with ease. If you have pets or small people, find them and bin them (the chips not the children). Fire up your soldering iron and tin it. Hold it against each pin on the underside of the pcb and with your third hand pull the cut pins through the pcb with your cutters or small pliers. When you've done that lot, make sure that you can see well through all the holes you've now made in the pcb. If there is solder obstructing any of them, you're going to have a spot of trouble getting the sockets in, so a solder sucker or my personal new friend de-soldering wick will have to be brought into play. Nice clean holes? Then proceed to solder in the sockets making sure they are the right way round.

Do the same with the DBX 2150 and 2252 parts and you are virtually there. Make sure you haven't connected any points together. Using a continuity tester here will tell you whether any adjacent points have become attracted, but some may by design be joined so it might be an idea to test all points and make notes before you even start this malarky.

Install all your lovely new chips into their respective sockets, double checking that they are the right way round.

Now, one last thing. Get a nice thick piece of copper wire and strap all the input and output grounds together.

Admire your handywork for a moment or two and if you've mustered enough courage and there are no children or animals in the vicinity, introduce the new power supply into it's socket and being careful to keep your hands well away from the pcb, turn it on.

No smoke? Then the chances are that you've just made your 3630 into something resembling what it should have been in the first place. Unhook the power, bolt that sucker back together and put it in the rack.

Have fun


Thx for the info. I'm going to open it up to cross check the chips.
I couldn't tell if you were being serious or sarcastic? I take it serious.
Do you do this with no prior electrical experience? You sound so witty. Either you know what your talking about or it's you've been asked this question so many times? It was just that simple.

Anyway thank you much for all your time spent. :D


frederic said:
Well, I used existing cabinets so for me it was choosing drivers that would like that cabinet. The original awia drivers were absolute crap, but I did very much like the shape of the cabinet - for cheap home theater speakers they are very well put together IMHO, so I wanted to recycle. Anyway, since the tweeter is enclosed, meaning the back of the cone is in a sealed chamber, I didn't have to take into consideration interior volume for that driver - only the frequency range, how flat its response is, and diameter (to fill existing hole).

LF drivers required finding a pair of drivers that liked to share the internal volume of the cabinet (or slightly less, you can reduce interior volume but can't add volume without redoing the cabinets). I didn't want ported enclosures as that introduces yet another variable, so this was just a research issue, but this is why I chose the drivers that I did.

Once you have the drivers high and low (or mid if its a 3-way), you now know the crossover frequencies based on the documentation from the manufacturers. Then you can design your crossover from there, and adjust the HF roll-off for the woofers, and the LF roll-off for the tweeters based on their effectiveness just below, at, and just above their indicated crossover frequency. Then solder!

If you're making monitors from scratch, you might consider a kit. There are various speaker companies that offer kits, some nicer than others. Dayton I think is one of them... and if you google for "Ariel speakers" you'll find tons of pages on DIY speakers, which more importantly has a lot of the math you'll need to do the calculations yourself, even if you don't build yourself a pair of those.

Thx alot for the help. I'll be looking into the kits a.s.a.p.




I love this site. Keep up the good work all.


L8er,
livilaNic




And....kids don't forget
Peter Purpose said:
ELECTRICITY CAN KILL YOU
 
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livilaNic said:
Thx for the info. I'm going to open it up to cross check the chips.
I couldn't tell if you were being serious or sarcastic? I take it serious.
Do you do this with no prior eletrical experience?

If you've never used an iron, start with something easy like cables, then try speaker crossovers, then you'll be ready to try desoldering opamps.
 
mshilarious said:
If you've never used an iron, start with something easy like cables, then try speaker crossovers, then you'll be ready to try desoldering opamps.

Yeah thats what I was thinking. I have some old noisy instrument cables to mess with.

Thx again ms. :D


L8er,
livilaNic
 
desoldering components is easy.

Get yourself a cheap ratshack desoldering iron and slurp the solder right off. Its no more difficult than soldering.

And, its cheap!
 
A place to start for speaker kits:

http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage.cfm?WebPage_ID=209

http://www.nutshellhifi.com/ABC.html

http://www.nutshellhifi.com/Ariel.html

http://www.jgytf.u-szeged.hu/~kadar/projects/ariel/page_01.htm

http://www.northcreekmusic.com/ArielFAQ.html

http://retro.co.za/audio/speakers.html

Math happy link:
http://tubesall.hihome.com/speaker.htm



While the above links are for home theater speakers, they have a lot of decent construction photos that may help you with your design. the last link has a ton of "papers" relating to speaker design and the math that goes with it.
 
frederic said:
A place to start for speaker kits:

http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage.cfm?WebPage_ID=209

http://www.nutshellhifi.com/ABC.html

http://www.nutshellhifi.com/Ariel.html

http://www.jgytf.u-szeged.hu/~kadar/projects/ariel/page_01.htm

http://www.northcreekmusic.com/ArielFAQ.html

http://retro.co.za/audio/speakers.html

Math happy link:
http://tubesall.hihome.com/speaker.htm



While the above links are for home theater speakers, they have a lot of decent construction photos that may help you with your design. the last link has a ton of "papers" relating to speaker design and the math that goes with it.

Thx alot frederic. Bookmarked em' all. Once again keep up all the good work! :D



L8er,
livilaNic
 
frederic said:
desoldering components is easy.

Mmm, that's the voice of experience. The first time you tackle a plated thru hole opamp, or a cap on a board where the leads were bent over before they were soldered, and the traces like to lift, you'll be glad to have some soldering under your belt first.
 
Actually, desoldering is easier to learn than soldering - because soldering requires a smooth shiny flow of solder, to make a reliable good connection. Desoldering you can hack at it :)

Bent pins are easy... insert the pin tip *into* the desoldering tip and bend it back while suctioning the solder out.

But yeah, you're probably right in that my experience makes me think this is extremely easy. I really don't remember how it was to learn; I started soldering when I was 10 or so, and I'm getting close to 40 these days.

Soldering surface mount parts by hand is tough... very tough... but I can do it with a special tip I "made" on my grinder. It's essentially a little thicker than a safety pin point. Though as I get older my hands are less steady than they used to be so I've shyed away from SMT parts.

And on boards that you just want the parts and not the board (for collecting parts, which I do on occasion) I just use a heat gun on the bottom side, then shake the parts off on the work bench, then sweep them into a bag for later sorting. I do that less and less as I've gotten lazy as I age too :)
 
frederic said:
desoldering components is easy.

Get yourself a cheap ratshack desoldering iron and slurp the solder right off. Its no more difficult than soldering.

And, its cheap!

Sometimes those desoldering bulbs work well to, depending on the application.
 
thane1200 said:
Sometimes those desoldering bulbs work well to, depending on the application.

Yep...

I prefer the iron/bulb combo unit, just because I don't have good dexterity the way I used to, so operating the iron/bulb with one hand, and holding the work with the other, works well. I have one of those alligator clip "hold wires/pcboard" things, but for some reason my work (pc boards mostly) ends up falling as soon as I touch the iron to it, so I desolder this way.

Pump suckers are very nice... rarely do you have to desolder a connection twice, even double sided.

I'll have to dig it out... I have a rat-shack desoldering iron in the garage where I replaced the bulb with fuel line which attaches to a very tiny vaccum.

No bulb :)

Oh, add that to my list of DIY stuff LMAO
 
little vaccuum? I've got an "electronoics vaccuum" powerd by 2AA batteries, it has 4 attachments and works great for dust and small dirt particles. What are you using?
 
thane1200 said:
little vaccuum? I've got an "electronoics vaccuum" powerd by 2AA batteries, it has 4 attachments and works great for dust and small dirt particles. What are you using?

I'm using a "turbo vac" which is essentially a shop vac shaped like a dust buster - it has a very small opening which I plugged with a hand-filed "D" shaped piece of wood (to match the opening), and hammered through a brass section of small diameter of pipe, to slip the fuel line over. I used fuel line because I have a lot of it lying around. I use this vacuum for sucking up metal filings off my drill press, lathe and various other machines so it has good suction. When desoldering, I usually run it in a drawer with the fuel line and the cord hanging out since its annoyingly noisy.

The solder gets sucked into the fuel line very quickly, and because its ball shaped and ambient air follows it when you run out of solder to suck, you end up with a very small, nearly perfectly round solder ball that goes through the hose without sticking, all the way through the brass fitting, into the catch bag. By the time it hits the bag its nice and cold. No fires.
 
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