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myurbanodyssey
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I'm a little more savvy on the old board than mixing in the box, so when I have time I try to send my arranged tracks to my mixing board to sum to stereo, and a few other sources. I'd like to think it "analogifies" the signal somehow.
Here are a few things I do:
Group and divide all tracks on my computer to 8 sends, plugins and surgical eq applied > Send all 8 track through the Outs on my Ensemble to my Mackie 1402 > Apply some sweeping/asthetic eq, pan, and sum down to a stereo track using the master outs > Send back to the Ensemble as a stereo track.
I have an old refurbished TASCAM Syncaset 238. The tapeheads are seeing the end of their days, but the RCA In/Outs work just fine. I sometimes send the 8 sends into the machine, letting it run through the analog circuit to get "colored", then bounce the tracks to the Mackie. I have yet to try the same with a Stereo tape deck. That might be cool.
Anyway, that's what I do to try and "warm up" my tracks, so to speak. When it comes down to it, if you like the sound, man, then go with it. I'm happy with the sound for the most part, but there's always room for improvement =)
Here are a few things I do:
Group and divide all tracks on my computer to 8 sends, plugins and surgical eq applied > Send all 8 track through the Outs on my Ensemble to my Mackie 1402 > Apply some sweeping/asthetic eq, pan, and sum down to a stereo track using the master outs > Send back to the Ensemble as a stereo track.
I have an old refurbished TASCAM Syncaset 238. The tapeheads are seeing the end of their days, but the RCA In/Outs work just fine. I sometimes send the 8 sends into the machine, letting it run through the analog circuit to get "colored", then bounce the tracks to the Mackie. I have yet to try the same with a Stereo tape deck. That might be cool.
Anyway, that's what I do to try and "warm up" my tracks, so to speak. When it comes down to it, if you like the sound, man, then go with it. I'm happy with the sound for the most part, but there's always room for improvement =)
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jgharding
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Yeah it definitely does something, you can hear it, and then looking at the redigitised waveform shows you too. I don't know if it's 'technically' degrading the sound, but then that's what distortion is and it sounds kind of good on guitar for example eh?
Thecnical schmeknical! It took someone to forget to decode the Dolby A to get that 70's vocal sound. Technically wrong, aesthetically nice. And it took Kon Ichikawa to bypass the print bleach process in film developing to create what is now a standard effect in cinema. Technically wrong, aesthetically great! When the Kings of Rhythm recorded Rocket 88 with a broken amp, they created one of the earliest recordings of distorted guitar! The thing was fucking broken! And look where distortion went! Everywhere!
I think it's about how it makes you feel too. If you don't have all the money in the world for a sack full of Studers then perhaps running through some old tape feels good. I don't feel the sound of those cassete tapes, but i've heard much worse music come out of lovely PT HD rigs and analog studios alike! I will be using my broken tape deck as an effect too, it's great fun! And fun and learning must go hand in hand, otherwise, well we're back at school
and that sucked.
A monkey with a 2" Mastering Reel to Reel is still a monkey. Shit music recorded expensive tape is just warm shit
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Thecnical schmeknical! It took someone to forget to decode the Dolby A to get that 70's vocal sound. Technically wrong, aesthetically nice. And it took Kon Ichikawa to bypass the print bleach process in film developing to create what is now a standard effect in cinema. Technically wrong, aesthetically great! When the Kings of Rhythm recorded Rocket 88 with a broken amp, they created one of the earliest recordings of distorted guitar! The thing was fucking broken! And look where distortion went! Everywhere!
I think it's about how it makes you feel too. If you don't have all the money in the world for a sack full of Studers then perhaps running through some old tape feels good. I don't feel the sound of those cassete tapes, but i've heard much worse music come out of lovely PT HD rigs and analog studios alike! I will be using my broken tape deck as an effect too, it's great fun! And fun and learning must go hand in hand, otherwise, well we're back at school
and that sucked.A monkey with a 2" Mastering Reel to Reel is still a monkey. Shit music recorded expensive tape is just warm shit
www.myspace.com/jgharding
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mwhouston
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Guys
Not sure where this thread should be posted so I took a guess at this forum. I'm new to the forum in general.
I bought a Cowon i6 some time back and use it's line-in to record at 128k. I have just received a new Cowon S9 the latest. Sounds great.
The S9 can record (line-in) at 256K. What I am trying to establish is how does the S9 (and i6) sample rate compare to red book. If CDs are at a sample rate of 44.1k then is both the i6 and S9 vastly exceeding this rate, so therefore recording at a higher resolution level than red book or am I missing something?
Love some help.
Not sure where this thread should be posted so I took a guess at this forum. I'm new to the forum in general.
I bought a Cowon i6 some time back and use it's line-in to record at 128k. I have just received a new Cowon S9 the latest. Sounds great.
The S9 can record (line-in) at 256K. What I am trying to establish is how does the S9 (and i6) sample rate compare to red book. If CDs are at a sample rate of 44.1k then is both the i6 and S9 vastly exceeding this rate, so therefore recording at a higher resolution level than red book or am I missing something?
Love some help.
jedblue
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Maybe create a new thread where you think it should be rather than tacking it on to something that's stopped running for a bit and not to do with your issue?
Geoff
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mwhouston
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I'm having problems moving around the forum would you please drop me a link to where to start.
Thanks
Thanks
jedblue
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Click the HomeRecording.com banner at the top left of the page and it'll take to you the home page. You'll see all the forums there. Pick the one you think is most appropriate for your topic and click the New Thread button and off you go.
Cheers
Geoff
Cheers
Geoff
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dodgeaspen
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Why take all that time to do an end run for the analog sound? Why not track to analog, mix in analog, then dump to digital to burn the CD. Lots less time and fuss.
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dintymoore
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shortedaman - if I listened to what most people said I would have quit music 40 years ago, I wouldn't have got to sing with great singers, and I wouldn't have got to play with great players.
I thought your vocals were cool! The recording will get better and better if you keep on it. I started on a 3" mono reel to reel in the early 60's and before I knew it was using a Neve board and 24 trk MCI's. Your talent will find it's own level.
Listen to what everybody says, then do WTF you want, if it sounds good to you - screw them.
Cassettes are over - the sound is too squashed, but I know what you are trying for.
I always thought that 8 tracks were better than cassettes... hmmm... just checked and they ran at 3.75 ips, and cassettes were 1 7/8... but cassettes were 4 track (LRRL) on 1/8" and 8 track was 8 (LRLRLRLR) on 1/4"... I need my abacas... what if you record them at 320 kbps with Dolby C?
I was probably the only guy with Weather Report and Herbie Hancock on 8 track in the 70's - a friend had an 8 track w/record and I made my own! Played them in my '68 Chevy Impala (!).
Yesterday I found a Delco radio from a Caddy I had and it had the factory....................................8 track player (no kidding).
I thought your vocals were cool! The recording will get better and better if you keep on it. I started on a 3" mono reel to reel in the early 60's and before I knew it was using a Neve board and 24 trk MCI's. Your talent will find it's own level.
Listen to what everybody says, then do WTF you want, if it sounds good to you - screw them.
Cassettes are over - the sound is too squashed, but I know what you are trying for.
I always thought that 8 tracks were better than cassettes... hmmm... just checked and they ran at 3.75 ips, and cassettes were 1 7/8... but cassettes were 4 track (LRRL) on 1/8" and 8 track was 8 (LRLRLRLR) on 1/4"... I need my abacas... what if you record them at 320 kbps with Dolby C?
I was probably the only guy with Weather Report and Herbie Hancock on 8 track in the 70's - a friend had an 8 track w/record and I made my own! Played them in my '68 Chevy Impala (!).
Yesterday I found a Delco radio from a Caddy I had and it had the factory....................................8 track player (no kidding).
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mwhouston
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Weather report. I work for an Australian electronics store and we have a weather report CD about. Knew the name couldn't place the music. I just may have a listen. Birth date 1952!
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dintymoore
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Yes but do you sell Weather Report 8 tracks?
Weather Report was a major influence for me, I'd recommend "Black Market" as my favorite of their albums. The bass player who joined them, Jaco Pastorius reinvented bass guitar and his influence can be heard in many modern players, from Flea to Muzak at the grocery store.
When Will Lee (plays on Letterman) saw him he was impressed and said "but is it bass?"... and as much as I love Jaco I'm not sure it is... I now see it as "upper bass" more like trombone, and trombone and early Frank Sinatra is where he said he got his tone from. So I see Zawanul as playing bass on synth, and Jaco was doing melody on trombone if you know what I mean, and maybe that's why Lou Rawls fired him.
If people asked who were the most incredible musicians of my life I'd say Jaco, Hendrix and Buddy Rich - they all were from another dimension.
Weather Report was a major influence for me, I'd recommend "Black Market" as my favorite of their albums. The bass player who joined them, Jaco Pastorius reinvented bass guitar and his influence can be heard in many modern players, from Flea to Muzak at the grocery store.
When Will Lee (plays on Letterman) saw him he was impressed and said "but is it bass?"... and as much as I love Jaco I'm not sure it is... I now see it as "upper bass" more like trombone, and trombone and early Frank Sinatra is where he said he got his tone from. So I see Zawanul as playing bass on synth, and Jaco was doing melody on trombone if you know what I mean, and maybe that's why Lou Rawls fired him.
If people asked who were the most incredible musicians of my life I'd say Jaco, Hendrix and Buddy Rich - they all were from another dimension.
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mwhouston
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I was brought up on Hendrix, Stones Grand Funk, late Cream and many more never really a Beatles person. I have all of Hendrix LPs. Even kept buying them after he died. Isle of White and both Wood Stocks. Most I bought the week they were released. An LP was ten shillings ($1) when I started collecting.
I don’t play Hendrix much anymore though I played Band of Gypsies only a month back. I’m very into Classical and Jazz these days so my hundreds of 60s, 70s and 80s “rock” LPs don’t get a play.
We don’t sell weather report the disc is just lying around. Someone brought it in to demo or CD players. I may take a listen.
I don’t play Hendrix much anymore though I played Band of Gypsies only a month back. I’m very into Classical and Jazz these days so my hundreds of 60s, 70s and 80s “rock” LPs don’t get a play.
We don’t sell weather report the disc is just lying around. Someone brought it in to demo or CD players. I may take a listen.
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simoneau10
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hey if u like it then awesome, im not really a big fan of the distant airy sound tho.. but some people are so keep doin what your doin man, maybe switch up every once in a while tho.