Could this be my problem, the interface

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mark1971a said:
Fist page 4 clips from 4 different songs. 2 of which are done on the DAW reaper, mic in. With at least 6-8 tracks. Nothing can be done with the jagged input signal. You wanted some reverb on it to compare, but it doesn't matter, it is a chopped up movie.

The other 2 song clips are from the 8 track mixed down as a 2 ch stereo DAW track. Those are infintelty clearer, but become stepped after being input to the Toneport.
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I haven't gone back to look, but I recall you saying something about going direct in with the guitar? I think I head one of those clips? That's never good. The problem with your comparisons is that you're not being objective. Your own tape vs digital hangups have clouded your judgement and your ears. Nothing you are describing or saying makes any sense or jives with what is reality. So yeah, maybe you do need to hire somebody. Or, this is just a troll. Maybe both.
 
I have stated before the mic input line, if you o scope it , looks similar to Watkins preamp sample( like a smooth sine). After you record it to reaper , render it mp3, then oscope the out, it is stepped and jagged.

The change takes place after you enter the DAW.

The physical line going in, does not lie. If it is good going in, why bad out?
The physical O scope does not lie.
You were saying? Something about ears...

I got the problem nailed. I need to find out how Watkins got the pre sample.

Fucking Christ, this is no troll, or joke or gag. I m a guy trying to record my music and it isn't sounding right. I put up many clips and solid efforts. You honestly should be able to ascertain what my plight is. I could care less if it is tape or not.
 
mark1971a said:
I have stated before the mic input line, if you o scope it , looks similar to Watkins sample. After you record it to reaper , render it mp3, then oscope the out it is stepped and jagged.

The change takes place after you enter the DAW.
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Lol. Again, :facepalm:
 
Look at miroslav song on youtube. It has nice sine curves in the signal. This is not getting hung up on something.

This is fundamentals of the signal , chapter 1, stuff.
 
mark1971a said:
I have stated before the mic input line, if you o scope it , looks similar to Watkins preamp sample( like a smooth sine). After you record it to reaper , render it mp3, then oscope the out, it is stepped and jagged.

The change takes place after you enter the DAW.

The physical line going in, does not lie. If it is good going in, why bad out?
The physical O scope does not lie.
You were saying? Something about ears...

I got the problem nailed. I need to find out how Watkins got the pre sample.

Fucking Christ, this is no troll, or joke or gag. I m a guy trying to record my music and it isn't sounding right. I put up many clips and solid efforts. You honestly should be able to ascertain what my plight is. I could care less if it is tape or not.
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Scope what? Visual representation of audio is not tone.

Get over it....
 
mark1971a said:
Fuck yes it is! Amplitude of a freq over time. That is Tone.
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Ok, I'm out of this discussion.

Good luck to you man. Seriously. I genuinely wish you the best of luck. It is not for me to say what you think works for you.
 
This is a really strange thread. I've never heard of looking at sine curves or pretty much anything being discussed here before. The comparisons you're making and clips you're using seem like complete apples and oranges to me, but I admit to not understanding much of what you're talking about. I'll keep reading though...perhaps I'll learn something :).
 
Just to set up a reel to reel you set up the tones with an o scope and verify, or your phase will be screwed. What that isnt tone. Fuck you, Jim.

Do you guys know which part of the signal is the bias?

Do you know what bias is , AC bias? How bout azimuth?

The sine cosine function ...Anybody? bueller?

That is what I come from. To not be able to get any information on what is happening is extremely frustrating.

What idiot says ya that just sounds good so it is. If you think thats how it happens, there is another door for you walk through.
 
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mark1971a said:
Just to set up a reel to reel you set up the tones with an o scope and verify.

Do you guys know which part of the signal is the bias?

Do you know what bias is , AC bias? How bout azimuth?

The sine cosine function ...Anybody? bueller?
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Do I care? No.. It has nothing to do with what makes my recordings sound bad or good. Therefore, nothing I care about.

I am not the one with issues....
 
jimmys69 said:
Do I care? No.. It has nothing to do with what makes my recordings sound bad or good. Therefore, nothing I care about.

I am not the one with issues....
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You're doing it wrong. Nothing can possibly sound good until you've scoped it and mapped out the sine waves using a slide rule.
 
The only issue I have is a Degraded signal, and other people here are claiming the are using these interfaces aren't getting.

I need to find out why.

You can hear the difference in clips
YOu can see it from the clip on a windows o scope visualization yourself.

Some member starts talking BS, and my banner turns red? A o scope can hear tones better than your ears ever could. expand your tool box and understand the picture.
 
I try to keep trigonometry out of all of my musical decisions.
 
I kinda understand that you're seeing smooth waves and also jagged ones. I beleive you.

Thing is....what is the source and what is its signal path/chain beofre you look at it?
The only thing that should look like a sine wave on a 'scopre (analog or digital signal)...is a pure tone SINE WAVE.

If you're putting in a guitar track or keyboard tracks or any kind of audio tracks into the scope, YES, they will go up/down like waves but they WILL have sharp peaks and edges in the DAW, not smooth.....because they are not a pure tone sine wave.
So what kind of source signal *exactly* are you looking at in the 'scope...???

Again...you may be looking at one thing and thinking it should be something else and then drawing the wrong conclusion because you are seeing someting third....???
 
miroslav , had nice instruments. I envy that smoothness. I did not hear much miced inputs.
 
mark1971a said:
Just to set up a reel to reel you set up the tones with an o scope and verify, or your phase will be screwed. What that isnt tone. Fuck you, Jim.

Do you guys know which part of the signal is the bias?

Do you know what bias is , AC bias? How bout azimuth?

The sine cosine function ...Anybody? bueller?

That is what I come from. To not be able to get any information on what is happening is extremely frustrating.

What idiot says ya that just sounds good so it is. If you think thats how it happens, there is another door for you walk through.
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Oh boy! Another friendly member. sigh....
 
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