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bufaloeletric
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thanks for the help man, makes me wanna break the bank for another mike so i can record in stereo ha
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markopolo1996
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Not sure if anyone responded, didn't want to look through 11 pages, but if it's still relevant (3 years later) i'd go with the dynamic near the hole if your condenser is a small diaphragm, and then then the condenser at the neck. If it's an LDC i'd switch em, condensers have a higher frequency response range typically. Especially in the high's. Hope this helped.
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MeMyGuitar
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Hi there.
I'm trying to get "The" sound of my acoustic guitar, or better I'd say a good sound.
I made this clip in Mid-Side technique, using a large diaphragm condenser mic Rode NT2a in figure-of-eight mode, and a supercardioid small diaphagm Rode NT3. Would you please tell me whether you find something "wrong" in this sound? I'm not yet allowed to post URLs so please copy-paste this link on your browser:
soundcloud.com/memyguitar/prova-registrazione-mid-side
I'm trying to get "The" sound of my acoustic guitar, or better I'd say a good sound.
I made this clip in Mid-Side technique, using a large diaphragm condenser mic Rode NT2a in figure-of-eight mode, and a supercardioid small diaphagm Rode NT3. Would you please tell me whether you find something "wrong" in this sound? I'm not yet allowed to post URLs so please copy-paste this link on your browser:
soundcloud.com/memyguitar/prova-registrazione-mid-side
Illsidgus
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Hi,
It sounds pretty good to me. Have you done any equalization on the track yet? To me it sounded a little to treble or tinny in spots, could do with a little, let me stress "little", bit of bass boost. Maybe position the Rode a little closer to take advantage of the proximity effect. Just so you know, however many replies you get to this post, you will receive as many different opinions. Mine is not necessarily right or wrong for that matter, just my opinion.
Overall, I liked the piece. Keep refining it and getting the timing tighter, I felt that in a couple of spots you rushed it just a bit.
Cheers
It sounds pretty good to me. Have you done any equalization on the track yet? To me it sounded a little to treble or tinny in spots, could do with a little, let me stress "little", bit of bass boost. Maybe position the Rode a little closer to take advantage of the proximity effect. Just so you know, however many replies you get to this post, you will receive as many different opinions. Mine is not necessarily right or wrong for that matter, just my opinion.
Overall, I liked the piece. Keep refining it and getting the timing tighter, I felt that in a couple of spots you rushed it just a bit.
Cheers
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MeMyGuitar
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I equalized only the two NT2a L-R panned tracks (the original and the phase-inverted copy), this way:
Would you suggest any other equalization?
Would you suggest any other equalization?
WhiteStrat
Don't stare at the eye.
I think that sounds pretty sweet. I'm no expert, but I loved your style and the sound. Nice job...
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MeMyGuitar
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Thia take was made in MS setup, so the relative positioning of the two mics (the NT3 supercardioid being over and very close to the Fig 8 Nt2a) is not compatible with a closer positioning of just one of them. Anyway, forgive my ignorance, what do you mean by "proximity effect?
WhiteStrat
Don't stare at the eye.
"Proximity effect" is the increased bass response when closer to a mic. It's often used by vocalists (and talk show folks on the radio)--by getting closer to the mic, the low end of the source is more prominent. I think in this case, since he thought the low end of your guitar was a bit lacking, it might be remedied by a closer mic position.
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MeMyGuitar
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Uh, I see; actually, I played a brand new OM, which building was completed just 8 weeks ago, the topwood is Italian spruce and it will take some more time to break out the full basses; moreover, here actually RH is at 75% !!
I'll try anyway a new take staying closer to both mics.
WhiteStrat
Don't stare at the eye.
Yeah, I think it's worth trying, but to my ears, the low end isn't that lacking. And it might just need an eq tweak.
Illsidgus
Desiccated Member
MeMyGuitar and WhiteStrat,
I suppose that it could just be my hearing. I worked around fighter jets for almost 25 years and could have some hearing loss in the lower frequencies, I don't know that as a fact. To me it sounds like it need a small tweak in the lower frequencies. Other than that I like you technique and your song.
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MeMyGuitar
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Illsidgus,
no way, you're absolutely right!
no way, you're absolutely right!
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ryansteffes
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sounds awesome. i'm having trouble getting the full sound that you have. I use one mic, but i copy and paste the track and pan one left and one right...but this does nothing. can anyone help?
WhiteStrat
Don't stare at the eye.
When we speak of "double tracking" we mean actually playing the part twice, and then panning those.
Copying & pasting does nothing (as you've discovered). Since it's the same exact sound, there's nothing different for your ear to hear on the left vs. the right. But when you play a part twice--even the same exact part--there are a myriad of tiny, subtle differences. Those differences create the full sound you hear. Yeah, you need a click track (or some metronome/rhythm device), but it's worth it.
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MeMyGuitar
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That's not MS recording at all. First of all, you need two mics, one of them must be settted up in "figure of eight" mode or at least in omnidirectional mode.
Meantime, i made some further steps on sound treatment and this is the last update:
click --> REMIXED & REMASTERED
WhiteStrat
Don't stare at the eye.
Let's not confuse the guy.
Maybe he can tell us whether he was referring to my original post (which was not MS, but rather double tracking) or your example of MS. In either case though, you're right--copying and pasting the same track doesn't get you there.
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JacklinHarrik
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Great post buddy. Cheers
SuperFlyEli
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trunkdog
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Fly - Care to elaborate…
(Ouch! I took the bait!)
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CoolCat
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great post, i'm going to try this soon. the samples showing how it evolves was great.