Anybody wanna take the plunge?

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Everytime I see a Scully, I just have to cringe, because there's just something.............NOT RIGHT about them.


They SEEM well built, but the design is just so quirky that it makes me wonder.............

I suppose you either love em or hate em.

They're either lemons or workhorses.

One thing I know about MCI's though is that most all of the electronic components are EASY to come by. More than half of the IC chips are manufactured by Texas Instruments, and there's not a very nitpicky huge variety of capacitors on there. Throughougt the entire machine, there may be about 30-40 different types of capacitors, whereas a Studer or Revox may have HUNDREDS of different types of caps.
 
Damn, you know more about this than I so I'll just bow out gracefully..:D;)

...but didn't the Scully "B" version fix certain probs with the earlier machines?
 
One thing I know about MCI's though is that most all of the electronic components are EASY to come by. More than half of the IC chips are manufactured by Texas Instruments, and there's not a very nitpicky huge variety of capacitors on there. Throughougt the entire machine, there may be about 30-40 different types of capacitors, whereas a Studer or Revox may have HUNDREDS of different types of caps.

Hmm, that's food for thought definitely. No wonder MCI's are popular.
 
Yeah, MCI's are like the Fords and Chevys of the tape machine world.

They may not be like BMW's, but they're easy to fix.
 
This MCI is kinda near me and looks as though it might end up cheap. I'm kind-of interested in taking the plunge. I've actually been looking for smaller R2R's. What do you all think is it worth it?
 
I wish it were near me, I'd take the plunge. Especially at $10.00!!
 
uhh...yeah. if you have the space and you can work with 4 tracks.
 
The BIGGEST drawback to MCI's is an acronym that people like to make out of their name:

M---unchy
C---runchy
I----ntermittencies


All MCI's have HUNDREDS of molex connectors that interconnect all of the components. They get oxidized real easily, and can be a pain in the rear to clean. Then, even when they're clean, you can't always rely on each and every molex pin making a good contact with the corresponding socket.

The result of this is.............well I said it above. Random bouts of static and distortion in the recording and playback process. Usually resolved by cleaning the affected component and reseating it a few times.
 
I've got the space and love old gear (have a couple analog synths) I'm just not sure of the benefits of reel 2 reel recording over digital. I mean I know tape has a distinct sound. But I also know it might be a big time vacuum if it isn't working properly. I dunno, talk me into it - explain the benfits over my computer recording equipment.

It's probably an hour to and hour and half drive away and I don't know the dimensions but I'm hoping it will fit in my forester. Anyone know the dimensions I guess this thing weighs 200lbs - yikes!
 
If you can, get it so that way you can tell us how it is. :D It looks like it's 1/2" tape but I can't tell by that description. If it was 1/4" I might not care either way about it. You can't really lose at that price to try it out. Though, the price could still go up a bit. There's no real way to convince you of the benefits over your computer or if they'd be any all for yourself. You'd just have to try it out.
 
I think I'll just throw a low bid and see what happens. I don't think I'll trouble myself with it if it isn't dirt cheap. If nothing else is looks ace.
 
I've got the space and love old gear (have a couple analog synths) I'm just not sure of the benefits of reel 2 reel recording over digital. I mean I know tape has a distinct sound. But I also know it might be a big time vacuum if it isn't working properly. I dunno, talk me into it - explain the benfits over my computer recording equipment.

Yeah, get something that works for sure. It might surprise some, but I’m not much into the older generation machines or collector pieces. Many folks that come from a digital perspective tend to lump all analog reel-to-reel together. But the last generation stuff before digital took hold is leaps ahead of the older stuff.

I consider stuff from the mid 80’s through 90’s as modern analog. Going back to the 60’s and 70’s there are some machines I wouldn’t take if you gave them to me. Of course there are a few machines that were ahead of their time from any era and are still ticking.

But in general it’s a mistake to throw all machines into one analog basket just because they have reels.

Back in the day I had the privilege (and misfortune at times) of using various classic decks, but nothing excited me more than experiencing the advances in the 80’s. Specifically in the Semi-pro realm with machines like the Fostex E-16 and TASCAM TSR/MSR 8 and 16 track. Otari, TASCAM and Fostex all introduced machines that ran circles around older wider track models.

TASCAM was at the forefront of real head design improvements that enabled narrower tracks to keep pace and even out spec many older machines with wider tracks. Microprocessor control reduced wow & flutter, and made for more constant tension from one end of the tape to the other. There were advances in noise reduction, tape formulations and other aspects… it was just a great time.

So anyway, I usually won’t try to talk anyone into any 35-year-old monsters that you have to position with a crane. I really like the newer, more compact machines better. I choose them on purpose for various reasons.

As for what a modern analog machine in proper working condition can do for one’s recordings… eh, where do I start? It’s all about the sound. You just can’t get around it. First thing is your music has to be worth recording in the first place before analog will do anything for it.

No offence to anyone, but if it’s rap/hip-hop don’t waste your time worrying about the format. Rap and digital have a symbiotic relationship… they helped create each other. They rose to dominate pop music together, and it’s no coincidence.

The more complex and mature your music is the more analog will benefit you. Jazz, Gospel, R&B, many types of rock, some types of country, choral music, and new age are a few examples of genres that can benefit from tape.

If you have a gifted singer with a velvety voice and a good mic… give tape a shot and I won’t have to explain anything more.

By the way, digital did not kill analog. Semi-pro narrow track analog killed the pro analog establishment. Analog home/project studios heralded the end of the super studio. Personal digital just continued in the new world order that modern personal analog began. Late generation analog is not old; not outdated and still has tricks digital can’t do. ;)
 
No offence to anyone, but if it’s rap/hip-hop don’t waste your time worrying about the format. Rap and digital have a symbiotic relationship… they helped create each other. They rose to dominate pop music together, and it’s no coincidence.

It is my understanding that rap music came from scratching vinyl. = Analog. It was a combination of jamaicans living in queens, and poor black kids who couldn't afford drums, amps, etc. In jamaica it was already common by the 1970s for the DJ's on the radio to talk over the music. When they came to new york and started doing it on the street it became a style of music. All of the early hiphop was recorded to tape. Although later on the first digital samplers created breakthroughs in rap music, I would not say that they helped create each other. I'm not trying to nitpick this is just the story I heard. oh yeah, and Don't tase me bro!
 
Speaking of Scully's, here's a couple of songs recorded on one:
http://www.myspace.com/ericlichtermusic

Listen especially to "I could use a ride". To say I was astounded by the sound quality is an understatement, despite the shitty quality of the my space player.

I love the guy's sound but listen especially to the depth of the low end, how every instrument seems to mesh together so very nicely and the cream like texture of the sound (make sure you wear your best cans for this experience)!;)

Can you imagine listenning to this on a master tape?:eek::eek:
 

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