Why I won't buy the Tascam 2488

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:o Didn't mean to insult anyone by calling them "kids". Sorry.
I guess after 40 some years in the art&craft of recording, mixing and mastering you tend to forget how much fun you really had waist high in magnetic tape and all else primative procedures that (by today's standards was a waste of valuable recording time) went along with it.

The time it took to mic a Fender Band Master (amplifier) or, drum kit and get reasonable tracks down, I could have gone to church, done my grocery shoping and got my hair cut. But it was all fun and exciting!

Seriously though, even with trained ears, it's nearly impossible to tell the difference between a well amp-miced live guitar and some of the guitar amp simulators triggered from key boards and other triggering divices. A little creativity and the right proccessing? Bingo! It's done in seconds. (kind of takes the fun out of all the set-up/prep work doesn't it?)

Same with pan pots. You should hear what they sound like when they get old and the rotories get gummed with dust and oils and crumbs. :mad: Maintenance. What a costly nightmare.

OK. OK. I really never had to walk to school 10 miles in a snow storm either. That was a long time ago. However, as I'm writing this, there's sure to be some guy out there twisting a scratchy panpot and rewinding asetate. To each his oun. What ever floats your boat. :eek:

Yes I do admit that human voices enjoy a "richer, creamier" sound on analog tape than does digital. But processed in just the right way? And if you have some decent mastering skills? The choices are obvious.

I'm not saying you "purist" analog guys are oblivious to the latest technologies or are stuborn, or close-minded or anything like that. And I'm truly sorry if I offended anyone's artistic sensabilities. I just called you babies to get your attention.

I do love you guys. :o
 
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Thanx for making me feel welcome to this forum Dave :D I know how hard you've been working with your music. Your threads show it. Was that a list of all the recording gear you have I saw at your post, 3/23/05? What will you be doing with all that inventory may I ask? Awesome!

I'd just like to say irrespective of my previous posts, that results are the most important thing when it comes to making music. To me, results are when someone else besides yourself really gets off and digs your stuff.

For the "record" how you get it, (results) is as individual as snowflakes. you're "on your oun" in achieving results less you've lost sight of your artistic goals. Which, it appears you have not.

All the tools and knowlege we have. All we really need is heart.

Love, Peter

{some day I'll show you my tony award} :o
 
Yeah, sure!

As per the above, I'm just going to find myself through home recording.

The idea morphed at one point to envision a multi-room practice facility with self-recording capability in each room & rentals. My engineering added for an additional fee. That idea's on hold indefinitely. I can't afford the real estate to really do it,... but I'll never say never.

There was a wild charitable idea in me at another time, that I'd just buy everything for everyone, because I could always get the best deals on the best stuff. Like,... the neighbor kids on the block with bands,... eh,... "here, have this Portastudio, it only cost me $40!",,, -type of thing. That, of course has really not happened, either, but y'never know.

I'm just sitting on all the gear, & glorifying analog in my own little world, through self introspective home recording. I'd consider outside field recording of bands I like, even outright producing if the opportunity existed,... but I'm going through a bit of a dry spell on that now. I need to gather my own energies together to serve myself, for now. I may pursue any of these ideas further, at the point that I've exploited my own possibilities in self-recording,... which, honestly, I've only begun.

I wanna do it all, but I have to center myself and see what I can do on my own. I've been on a huge dry spell that I'm just coming out of.

I'm not totally ruling out anything in the future.

As an ancillary to self introspective doodling on tape,... my world is highly enriched by helping people with what I know,... helping e'one start strong by standing on my base of knowledge,... regardless of whether it seems nearly impossible to produce something of musical value myself.

I have a huge archive of amatuer recordings to my legacy, as well as knowledge,... and GEAR.

http://www.nowhereradio.com/davemania/singles

Please enjoy that, if you will, & try not to laugh yourself to tears over the shoddy and amatuer nature of it all.

Thanx for the replies, and I'm truly impressed you're a Tony winner.

E'one's perspective is needed on this board, and I'm just one small part of it.

Love, Love, Love. All we need is love! ;)
 
Oh yeah,...

not just tape-gear,... I have a huge load of musical instruments and media of all sorts. I have what you'd call a hell of a nice little home production studio, if I do say so myself.

I will come up with another dynamite production number, some day,... maybe soon,... as my life literally depends on it. Finding the time, inspiration and energy is my biggest challenge, at this time.

Pls see:
http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=101916

http://www.recordingproject.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=9738&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=148598

http://www.recordingproject.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=2900

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/writePage.cfm?bandid=312544&bandnamesave=davemania

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/?aid=1609

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=50274&highlight=Davemania

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=31016&highlight=Davemania

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=30729&highlight=Davemania

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There's plenty more where that came from, if you'd care to search this board on "Davemania".

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I put my entire self into this board and others like it, literally around the clock.

I'm not promoting myself this month, and this thread was not intended to promote myself.

If you're at all interested in this thread, and/or what I'm about, please visit each and every one of those threads.

If you really want to make my day, pls hit my two tunes on Soundclick, my newest account, and get me back on the charts.

Otherwise, I've made a deliberate effort that March 05 would be the month that I did not promote myself, & just see what happens.

I have many friends on these boards who really know me well. I'm about music, and feeling and helping people succeed in home recording. People like cjacek have succeeded by starting from scratch through my personal mentoring. I'm actually more proud of that than any little production number I've ever concieved,... and it's very gratifying rewards for my efforts on the boards. People contact me for advice all the time, offline. I'm always available for any help, whatsoever. I've made free house calls on inspections and repairs, in my local area. I've helped people fix countless loads of ailing gear. I'm thorough, attentive to detail, and I put my money where my mouth is, and ask nothing in return.

I'm not all about gear,... despite being the owner of the longest gear list you'll ever see.

People know me for my solid contributions, and I'm proud of that. You heard it here, first.

Thanx much for viewing my links and contributing to this thread, and welcome. Stay a while.

PS: I'm 43, and I've been multitracking since 1982. I have strong opinions about things, because I think I've been there & done that, to a certain degree. I know what I like and what I consider to be high function and value in gear, & even technique, but I also know that my opinion is just that, and anyone's elses opinion is as valid as my own.

This board is my home, and these people are my friends. People may think I'm a crank sometimes, but I'm really not. I actually have a fan base, I will say with gratitude and humility.

Love.
 
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it was 40rs ago today..BM got the REEL to play

BMWerks said:
:o Didn't mean to insult anyone by calling them "kids". Sorry.
I guess after 40 some years in the art&craft of recording, mixing and mastering you tend to forget how much fun you really had waist high in magnetic tape and all else primative procedures that (by today's standards was a waste of valuable recording time) went along with it.

Same with pan pots. You should hear what they sound like when they get old and the rotories get gummed with dust and oils and crumbs. :mad: Maintenance. What a costly nightmare.

And I'm truly sorry if I offended anyone's artistic sensabilities. I just called you babies to get your attention.

I do love you guys. :o
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agree with SIR REEL's...WELCOME,
and look forward to some more ball busting threads,
and maybe some insights you may have.

BMWerks, its just FUN and BOILS, you got your "attention", good job.
(you could have kept the flame going for a few more threads IMO).

40 yrs ago...damn! MONO/Stereophonic changeover years? 65ish.
i got the MONO Sgt. Pepper after reading George Martin saying the
MONO Mix was the "real one"...you've never heard Pepper if you hadn't heard the MONO mix". "everyone was involved during the mono mix and had all lost interest and went on by the time they did the stereo mix, not that it was a bad mix." approx quote bllsht.
McCartney said PET SOUNDS inspired alot of it.. very creative times I'll bet.

and even with a 2488- 24 tracks you still wind-up back at 2track stereo.it is a strange science. (had to say something about the 2488).

again welcome, you digital lazy engineer proactivist-wanting the
unit to do everything for you so you don't have to work as hard at keeping
your pots clean.... some of us like to play with our knobs.

seriously, maybe you can answer?
did you use the infamous Auratones & NS-10's? and if so, what brand of toilet paper was the best for the ns10's tweeter? oneply, two ply???
:)
 
BMWerks said:
Didn't mean to insult anyone by calling them "kids".[/SIZE] Sorry
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No problem, my friend. :) Points taken and understood.

Er ... you may wish to visit us over at "Analog Only". ;)

Anyway, welcome to the forum. :)

~Daniel
 
BMWerks said:
I'd just like to say irrespective of my previous posts, that results are the most important thing when it comes to making music.
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Couldn't agree more!

~Daniel :)
 
COOLCAT said:
agree with SIR REEL's...WELCOME,
and look forward to some more ball busting threads,
and maybe some insights you may have.

BMWerks, its just FUN and BOILS, you got your "attention", good job.
(you could have kept the flame going for a few more threads IMO).
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Right on target!! :D :D :D

~Daniel ;) ;)
 
Without Dave's (ARP) help and his awesome material of music on his davemania site, I would not have taken up piano to the same degree as I did or have started producing my own tracks! I would never have had the analog setup that I have now if I wasn't inspired (and helped immensely) by ARP. Dave goes above and beyond the call of duty to help anyone, on or offline.

~Daniel
 
Some day this will all be yours!

People, listen to my CD, enjoy, and send me your recorded stuff. That's all I want. Period.



Thanks Dave
 
"Dave goes above and beyond the call of duty to help anyone, on or offline"



I see that Daniel. Couldn't agree more. And thank you for your warm welcome.
What kind of recordings do you do? :confused:
 
very creative times I'll bet.

"very creative times I'll bet."

Just think what George Martin and the Beatles could have done with the 2488. These are very creative times too KoolCat. Don't you think Dave should get a 2488? And, wouldn't it help him to concentrate on more of the details of his music? :confused:
 
what brand of toilet paper

did you use the infamous Auratones & NS-10's? and if so, what brand of toilet paper was the best for the ns10's tweeter? oneply, two ply???

I could never see what was the big deal about the NS-10s My choice of monitors have always been JBL and JBL Lancing before them. Allways had good sound from E-V and their mics. But that was back in the 50's. Today's inexpensive mics (because of the competition) are tons better than many of the old mics except for a few brands like Neuman and some of the earlier AKGs where they payed strict attention to quality and detail.

This posting stuff and threads is so much fun isn't it KoolCat? :D :) :p :eek: :cool:
 
BMWerks said:
What kind of recordings do you do? :confused:
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I've been inspired by the great Elvis Presley and I just love his voice. That got me to record stuff. At first it was karaoke (BLAH!) and then I got into "covering" some of the songs he did using piano + vocal overdubs. (That's where Dave ARP comes in ;)). At the time I was learning piano etc ... I got "Track Rat" to record a backing track for me and I put my vocal to it. What a great guy! Anyway, I'm now at the point where I can play well enough to record the piano (work in progress) and then am looking forward to laying down some vocals. I had to learn "inversions" (recently) and how to best get it to sound decent etc ... and just practice a lot! I'm currently working on Danny Boy - my first ever production where I'll be the piano player + vocalist! Cool! There's nothing like doing your own tracks! Now, the only issue is whether to use my TASCAM 244 or TEAC 3440/M30 setup .. :confused: No 2448 for me, at least not for now. ;) Gotta say that I've been the digital route, only to succumb to the analog bug. There's no hope for me. :(

~Daniel :D
 
Be prepared to send the great message. Expect to recieve the great result. God lives in the details. I really appreciate the opportunity to write in this open forum. And the "results" of my writings have shown equal and appropriate.

Now, If I could only get Reel Dave to spring for a 2488.....I think it's the only thing holding him back. It would be that final piece of gear to put him over the edge. And at that point, he will have finally "made it".

Love you guys and everything you do. :) :D
 
A Reel Person said:
People, listen to my CD, enjoy, and send me your recorded stuff. That's all I want. Period.
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BMwerks said:
Thanks Dave
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Thanx, BM, for finding the quote that is quintessentially what it's all about for me.;)

PS: Nice fonts! ;)
 
BMWerks said:
Be prepared to send the great message. Expect to recieve the great result. God lives in the details. I really appreciate the opportunity to write in this open forum. And the "results" of my writings have shown equal and appropriate.

Now, If I could only get Reel Dave to spring for a 2488.....I think it's the only thing holding him back. It would be that final piece of gear to put him over the edge. And at that point, he will have finally "made it".

Love you guys and everything you do. :) :D
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BM, you're scaring me .. :eek:

~Daniel ;)
 
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