Who Destroyed Metal?

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Who destroyed Metal?

  • myhatbroke

    Votes: 92 39.0%

  • Korn

    Votes: 55 23.3%

  • Bon Jovi

    Votes: 39 16.5%

  • Pearl Jam

    Votes: 21 8.9%

  • Bad Religion

    Votes: 5 2.1%

  • Stryper

    Votes: 24 10.2%
  • Total voters
    236
A GUY NAMED JON said:
Thats like saying Chuck Berry isn't rock n' roll.
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Depends on your perspective and how you define genres. There is no possible way to define these things in terms that everyone will agree with.

What gets me is all this focus on the past.....why? History is something that we need to learn from and move on from...progress from...not focus on and emulate.

IMO....of course....
 
Ok, let me ask this:

What "genre" of metal are people speaking?

Hairband/prettyboy metal?

Hardcore Metal?

Progressive Metal?

Euro Power Metal?

Goth metal?

As someone said earlier, metal is NOT dead. having gone to see Evergrey, Nevermore, and In Flames in concert last year kicked major ass.

Maybe the better question would be - why did metal disappear from the arena shows and major radio?

Point blank - American Radio and the US Recording Industry did what it always does. It ran it into the perverbial ground. It squeezed it for everything it was worth. I could care less that the current recording project I am involved in would never be marketable in my own country. We are going to have to really on overseas marketing.
 
alien said:
Ok, let me ask this:

What "genre" of metal are people speaking?

Hairband/prettyboy metal?

Hardcore Metal?

Progressive Metal?

Euro Power Metal?

Goth metal?

As someone said earlier, metal is NOT dead. having gone to see Evergrey, Nevermore, and In Flames in concert last year kicked major ass.

Maybe the better question would be - why did metal disappear from the arena shows and major radio?

Point blank - American Radio and the US Recording Industry did what it always does. It ran it into the perverbial ground. It squeezed it for everything it was worth. I could care less that the current recording project I am involved in would never be marketable in my own country. We are going to have to really on overseas marketing.
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Of what genre of metal are people speaking? That's easy. The people that say it's dead are speaking of the 80's hair bands because they have no clue that metal evolved into a higher form. The people that say metal is a bunch of gawd awful racket with telentless cookie monsters at the mic and use speed for the sake of speed are talking about what they see on current HBB, and are totally unaware of all the amazing a beatuful talent that is out there....because as you said, the industry squeezes music for all the $$ it was worth.

Every kid that could grow hair wanted a piece of the action in the late 80's and early 90's. When there was finally nowhere for that kind of sound (80's hair) to go, the industry dumped it, and jumped inot the grunge scene...and the same exact thing happened. Evey kid that could wear a flannel shirt and look sad tried to start a grunge band. Then...the same thing happened to Emo...and on and on. As long as people play music for the money, the real talents will remain "under ground".
 
DC-XPL said:
For starters (yes I'm dating myself):
- RATT
- Poison
- Motley Crue
- Twisted Sister

...and all those other androgenous jerk-offs in the mid-80's.

When this trash came out, I abandoned metal for prog-rock (Yes, Genesis, ELP, Kansas, etc). I know - the music was self-indulgent, but at least I really learned how to play the guitar.
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Lol... thoes bands are kinda the start of metal,

and metal is not destroyed, there is so many metal bands, thousands.
and lots of good ones, no im not talking about stupid MTV core bullshit

but bands like Immortal, Elite, Arcturus, Nile, Dark Funeral, Melcesh, Darkthrone.. Just to name a few eh....since when has metal been desroyed.


:P newb

Nirvana and that arnt even metal? wtf are u on about...
 
love nirvana, one of my favorite bands ever.....


but they are all basically distorted beatles songs.
verrrrrrrrrrrrry pop.
 
Zed10R said:
Depends on your perspective and how you define genres. There is no possible way to define these things in terms that everyone will agree with.

What gets me is all this focus on the past.....why? History is something that we need to learn from and move on from...progress from...not focus on and emulate.

IMO....of course....
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I'm not moving on. I haven't heard good rock music since the mid 90's so I go back in time to find the good stuff.
 
Nirvana were the perfect antidote to bullshit 80s metal, and as much as I like some of the bands that are grinding and shredding out there right now, I look forward to another band coming along and hitting the reset button so all the guitar kids out there can concentrate on making good songs rather than just playing faster and lower-tuned than anyone else.
 
After seeing numerous threads like this in various forums I can honestly answer with this:

Closed-minded people who insists on tagging each and every new group that comes out with a "genre" tag rather than either listening and enjoying or declining and moving on and who also insist on having endless debates on who does or does not fit into some ambiguous notion of what defines these genres...


THAT is what destroyed not only metal, but is destroying music as an art in general and allowing it to be replaced with mass-marketted media (including the much-hallowed metal).

Listen to what you like, play what you love, and leave the rest to those who choose differently from you.
 
Cajun said:
After seeing numerous threads like this in various forums I can honestly answer with this:

Closed-minded people who insists on tagging each and every new group that comes out with a "genre" tag rather than either listening and enjoying or declining and moving on and who also insist on having endless debates on who does or does not fit into some ambiguous notion of what defines these genres...


THAT is what destroyed not only metal, but is destroying music as an art in general and allowing it to be replaced with mass-marketted media (including the much-hallowed metal).

Listen to what you like, play what you love, and leave the rest to those who choose differently from you.
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(Standing ovation)
 
Cajun said:
After seeing numerous threads like this in various forums I can honestly answer with this:

Closed-minded people who insists on tagging each and every new group that comes out with a "genre" tag rather than either listening and enjoying or declining and moving on and who also insist on having endless debates on who does or does not fit into some ambiguous notion of what defines these genres...


THAT is what destroyed not only metal, but is destroying music as an art in general and allowing it to be replaced with mass-marketted media (including the much-hallowed metal).

Listen to what you like, play what you love, and leave the rest to those who choose differently from you.
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good job, you just won the thread,
and we all grew a little. :)
 
Spostabee fun!!!

Metal was mortally wounded when its practicioners forgot that R&R is
spostabeefun. Metal is way too self-absorbed and dark to have much real entertainment value any more. Now watch the "gothics" slither out from under their rocks to say that "You just don't get it dude..." I get it...I'm just not entertained by it. If it were a visual art it would be like a blind guy painting a picture of his own cornea. From the inside.....get it???
One exception....early Yngvie...."Riot in the Dungeon..." great album.


chazba
 
I haven't read the other responses to this thread, but....

If metal could be killed by Kurt Cobain.... one guy... then it must have been pretty weak. And when he came along it WAS pathetic. So I think most of the blame goes to the weak state of music at the time.
 
Metal died when metallica hit the scene, and melody went the way of the dinosaur, and speed and screaming took the place of music.
 
why was MTV not a selection on the poll?
Mtv Killed the rock and roll and put Rap,hip hop and boybands and stupid reality shows in its place:mad:
 
Metal? You mean like tin or iron or whatnot? Rust destroys iron, I guess.

I can't answer the poll.
 
TelePaul said:
I can't believe this is still going on.
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I think a nOOb pulled the thread back up to the top. I thought it was a new thread until you said something then looked at the date of the OP.

this seems old posts get resurrected often around here.

I responded to a post that was several years old thinking it was a new thread because someone dug it up out of its crypt, I found out later that the OP had passed away a year or so ago:o
 
Nothing destroyed metal, it's just got a lot of subgenres now. There's no such thing as "pure metal" anymore.

And yes, REALLY old thread!
 
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