what is the suitable nudge time?

[semsem612]

what is the suitable time per m.s used to nudge a certain voice track inorder to get a wide sound?

 

[Greg_L]

However many ms it takes to track it again.

 

[Tadpui]

Start with 5ms and see how it sounds. Anything above about 15ms is going to start being perceived as a slap-back delay and will start to defeat the purpose.

Just realize that this will wreak havoc on your mix when it comes to summing to mono and listening on anything with a center speaker channel. You might be able to find a nudge amount that'll both provide stereo widening and put the 2 waveforms in a reasonable phase with each other. I can't say that I've had too much luck with that.

 

[semsem612]

Ok i will begin with 5ms and see. Thanks for the advice.

 

[semsem612]

I've tried 5 ms but it didn't give me what i want so i nudged step by step till i have had the most suitable sound that i want and it was at 80 ms.

 

[Armistice]

That ain't a wide sound... that's a delay.

 

[YanKleber]

I think that 80ms may be cool if you are after such an effect like 'Be-bop-a-Lula' with Gene Vincent... LoL...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_5593-skQ

 

[Farview]

A vocal widener will usually be a dual pitch shifter with one side pitched down about 5 cents and delayed 15ms and the other side pitch up 5 cents and delayed about 8ms. This is mixed behind the uneffected main vocal.

An 80ms delay is a slapback delay.

 

[Beerhunter]

Yup what others have said... anything more than 15 - 34 ms is considered a distinct echo

 

[semsem612]

It's ok i will try what Mr. Farview said.