Wharfedale Diamond Pro Monitors

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speakers...i mean STUDIO NEARFIELD REF monitors

i can only input on 8" and 6.5".
I'm tryin out 8"' and a pair of 6.5".

IMO The 8" are getting close to the non-nearfield IMO, in a small room.
i mean you got that bigol woofer blowing you hair from the port
at near-field range. the KRK RP8 is a big ol' box..big ol port..
and i got a small room. so the 6.5" seemed to have a little better
sound, buut I haven't mixed and translated yet with the RP8's...
i went to take em back twice, but i thought..hell, i gotta
mix at least onetune with 'em.

taking an average for a small bedroom...seems 6.5" is a good accepted nearfield, Yorkie hype and Wharf hype on the 6.5"'s.
..i mean hundreds of posts saying these are good nearfields.
either hifi or studio versions whatever their supposed to be.

in the end:
do the mixes translate?
or when you take your NEWEST GREATEST TUNE to your buddies house
who's having a party and he pops in your fhkng AWESOME NEW TRACK you just mixed, and you just heard it on the way over and ....

then it sounds like a BIG FAT ASS!!!! Blowing a low mid/upper low hz fart thru the speakers......and you sang with marbles in your mouth.....and your
distortion guitar sounds like a fhkng ice cream blender instead of Edd VH....

whoa. flashbakcs
 
http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_snapshot_product_reviews_23/

01/2005

WHARFEDALE DIAMOND PRO 8.2
Studio MOnitors


Wharfedale's Diamond Series consumer speakers have been around since 1981. A couple of years back, I tried a pair and found them perfectly acceptable as small studio monitors. Now, the new pro division of this 72-year-old British company ups the ante with the Diamond Pro Series, offered as passive or powered versions for studio near-field applications.

I checked out the 8.2 Pro, which combines a front-ported enclosure with 6.5-inch Kevlar woofer, 1-inch soft-dome neodymium tweeter and 100 watts (60W LF, 40W HF) of onboard bi-amping. The gray-finish cabinet is 14.3×8.4×12.7 inches (H×W×D) and the shaped front baffle should serve to reduce diffraction effects. The monitors ship with removable grilles that should be stored with the packing materials. Response is spec'd at 45 to 24k Hz; max SPL at 1 meter is 108 dB.

The rear panel has a bass roll-off switch, volume pot, AC switch and IEC cable connection, and a large amplifier heat sink to keep thermals in check. I don't like variable pots — I'd prefer a switched gain control for matching the gain between the two sides. You could always turn them up to “10” and back off the gain beforehand, but these slightly overamped monitors put out plenty of SPLs when set at “3” and driven by a -10dB signal. Turning them up higher than this serves no purpose other than waking the dead.

I liked the balanced Neutrik Combo TRS/XLR and unbalanced RCA inputs — you never know what you'll find at a studio these days. Another nice touch is the mag shielding — it's less of an issue as more users turn to flat-panel displays, but there are still a lot of CRTs out there.

The speakers sounded fine out of the box and didn't require bass tweaking — a good thing, as the Bass Filter control was too extreme for acoustic tailoring. I found these to be comfortable and nonfatiguing, providing a linear, consistent response that translated well. I perhaps wanted a bit more “air band” (15 kHz), but overall, the HF response is natural, the mids were right where they should be and the LF was a true picture of the bottom end. The stereo imaging was nice with a solid phantom center and uncolored off-axis sound. Best of all, they retail at $399/pair — a bargain!

— George Petersen



also read this from another forum about the wharfi´s:
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/m/43872/0#msg_43872

"The active 8.2's are a little better. Here's everything I know about them:

A Chinese company bought the rights to the Wharfedale name; the speakers are still designed in England, but made in China. The power amp was designed by a friend of mine in L.A., and he's one of the best amp designers around.

The passive 8,2 have a low midrange bump around 600 to 800Hz, which makes them a little "woofy" sounding, but still very usable. They go down pretty damn low and the imaging is amazing. Unlike many nearfields I've heard, I don't think I would have any problems doing a final mix on them, if they were all I had.

The active 8.2A's have some smoothing, lowering the upper 800Hz bump to where it's a little flatter than the passives.

They're a hell of a deal, and they work amazingly well for their intended purpose. Other than the low midrange bumps, I haven't heard any "Gotcha's" in this system. "

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I don't think GC carries these here in Atlanta, but I'll have to check again. Does anyone know where I can listen to them around Atlanta?
 
I just bought the Hi-fi version...

Hi,

I followed this thread since about a week. I could have buy the active ones but I finally purchased the yellow cones Wharfedale 8.2.

I took that decision in part because I own an old Sansui Hi-Fi amp that sound well (I also like to listen to music when working in my studio/office so Hi-Fi amp and speakers are some kind of compromise). It seems too that the difference between the passive Pro and the Hi-Fi ones was the magnetic shielding.

Anyway, my first impressions on the Wharfedales are that stereo imaging seems to be good. It is like the sound is coming directly from my monitor.

Regarding thre neutrality of the sound, I don't know. I have the impression that bass, mid and highs are well balanced but hey, I never heard real studio monitors... so I can't really compare.

One thing is sure, it is better than what I had before: a pair of Optimus (Radio Shack) and a pair of old Aurex (Toshiba).


Patrice Brousseau
 
Hey deepwater, it's been about a week, you told me you recieved the payment but no word on wether or not the monitors have shipped. It seems you communicate better from here so just let me know what's going on.
Thanks
 
Enzo Polotso said:
Hey deepwater, it's been about a week, you told me you recieved the payment but no word on wether or not the monitors have shipped. It seems you communicate better from here so just let me know what's going on.
Thanks

Yeah, good luck man. I ordered mine on Feb. 11 and I've got nothing. Granted, one monitor did arrive (not two) and it was damaged by FedEx so they came and took it away so deepwater could make his damage claim. Good luck with the communication thing. The guy was a communication freak when he was trying to make the sale. Now he never responds to anything.
 
HeyHeyMyMy said:
Yeah, good luck man. I ordered mine on Feb. 11 and I've got nothing. Granted, one monitor did arrive (not two) and it was damaged by FedEx so they came and took it away so deepwater could make his damage claim. Good luck with the communication thing. The guy was a communication freak when he was trying to make the sale. Now he never responds to anything.
Well if he doesn't respond by tomorrow, paypal will be getting an email, and my credit card company will be getting a call.
I understand he travels but this is no way to conduct business.
 
gugusse said:
Hi,

I followed this thread since about a week. I could have buy the active ones but I finally purchased the yellow cones Wharfedale 8.2.

It was Massive Mastering who started this whole thing off (well, in this bbs) by recommending the hi-fi version. I have them too (albeit with a reference amp).
 
i took me quite awhile to recieve mine from deepwater also and his communication wasnt to hot. but n the end i finally did get a pair of the active 8.2s and must say they are nice little monitors. seem very even until around 450-700hz. at that point the things get a little woofy and mushy. had a bit of a hard time getting the kick to transfer right to other speakers on a recent session. there a great buy for the price. better than alesis and event stuff ive used. not as nice as adams and genelecs ive used though haha.
 
In SOS review of the 8.1 Hugh Robjohns says:

"The overall sound quality is fairly neutral, but I'd say these speakers tend towards the pleasant rather than the revealing — although that's probably not surprising given their domestic hi-fi heritage. Technical faults don't scream out at you as they do on high-end professional monitors, and it is hard work trying to listen into the inner details of a complex mix."



Do you think with your wharfedales so, too ?

Is it realy hard work trying to listen into inner details ?

Which monitors till 1000 € ( as example KRK RP / Tapco S or Event TR series ) are really better at this aspect ???

Are they high-end Pro Monitors ?
 
i own them and love them


my only regret is not buying them from deepwater
 
fernandoesmaron said:
Are they high-end Pro Monitors ?
No, but they are certainly good for the money.

Nick The Man said:
my only regret is not buying them from deepwater
Other here would disagree with that. My dealings with deepwater were OK, but others here feel they got less than adequate service and that the lower price didn't justify the long waits they had.
 
wharfs again...

Garry Sharp said:
It was Massive Mastering who started this whole thing off (well, in this bbs) by recommending the hi-fi version. I have them too (albeit with a reference amp).

yeah, Massive's input. but if you read his article in RECORDING mag or the other recent Recording Review article or websomething...he's Mastering and has 802'$ and Bryston amps or some hi end audiophile amp.
he also told me he'd have to go with the BW602's over the Wharfs.

the passive Wharfs appear well built, not any bad threads seen.the Yorks have almost zero bad hype, even the actives.

IMO I wouldn't risk any money on shipping 8.2a's..too many quality crashes.
theres another new thread just today, the Wharf8.2a started buzzing after 3 months or some crap. think i'll go there and get a laugh.

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i just mixed tracked and mixed a couple projects through them and i say they are a good set of speakers for the price. pretty nice sounding but woofy at 400 and not to detailed over 10k. bout in the same ballpark as the event tr8s i used to have. alot better than the alesis monitor ones which seemed to drop off under 200 and have a wierd spike at around 4k. i used some blue skies with them the last session to dial in my highs a bit better. the 8.2s would be a damn nice referance, studio send or home speaker set though. im just saving cash for some adams
 
I just got mine a few weeks ago and I am really enjoying it...
The soundscape is nice and clear, but the low end falls somewhat flat in my untreated room (expected).
Overall, worth the money and no QC issues here.
 
Ok I read up until page 6 and my eyes hurt :(

So is everybody thinking that The Wharfs are better then say KRK Rokit 6?

Is deepwater trustworthly, anybody have problems?

Also deepwater how much to ship to the UK?
 
Quite a few people have had problems and the UK prices are not so bad that you need to order in from him. :)
 
I'm finding them for £250 in UK shops. He's selling them for $275.00 which is £151.00

Shipping can't cost that much. Where in the UK can get the Wharfs cheaper?
 
Yeh, it's in French. lol.
I'd already looked at that site, used the google translator on it and it was hopeless

"These gravitational prices" hahaha.

They're selling for £196 there and I couldn't figure out how much shipping was.
 
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