Wharfedale Diamond Pro Monitors

[fernandoesmaron]

optimum are 6,5`` woofers.

 

[dxl]

As soon as my 8.2A's arrive, you will have this opinion, I swear! I'll start a new thread for it.



They reach a LOT lower, actually. The bass is a strong point on the Yorkvilles, considering their size. They're also a fair bit more detailed than the NS10's, and easier on the ears.
The one problem I've had with the Yorkvilles is that the bass seems a little too strong when used very nearfield, but too weak when used in the midfield. Possibly my room causing the problems, but I've had to learn to check against the bass level on other mixes occasionally because I often start by putting not quite enough in. Once I check though, it's smooth sailing

well, ysm1p isn't wat i would call easy listen, but when compare to NS10... well.. yeah...
every insturment and sounds tend to sound narrower than they should be on most other speakers, it's good for doing pannings but it's not a pleasure speaker for my ears
especilly it has too much high mid and a bit too bright, but way better than NS10

as for the yorkville bass thing... maybe u placed ur speaker too close together + close to the wall... and most 6in speakers(ysm1p, M!mk2, Truth2030, 2031) i have tried in my room all have that kind of effect, it's more apparent when ur speakers are fairly close
but when u back up to a certain distant way from the speakers... the very back of ur room, u will hear that boom.. and of coz if ur at that perfect spot... ur will hear the bass more accuratly
with 8in speakers (824, ASP8), the closer i'm too the speakers, the more hallow they sound... but if i'm in that perfect spot where the speakers are pointing at, the bass is just right there!
maybe it's due to they are more hi-end. more 3D sounding


anyway, i still think ysm1p is more of a canadian thing.... it's not like... wow! it's fantastic... best budget speakers ...or so on...
basically it's an ART monitor + yorkville amp
But i have to admit, it's more useful and acurate than Truth 2031/2030 (no good for anything to my ears), and M1mk2 (very easy listening, too smooth, can't see the panning acuratly)
i have one as my B referance
824 as my main refreance + plearsure~

 

[dxl]

Stinger - my opinion of the Media Desk is that they're stinkers! I wanted to like them, because the 2.1 arrangement would suit my desk and room better, but there was so much listening from them it was unbelievable! I was stood with two sales guys who were going, "But the SOS review was so good" and, "I know! But they suck!".

I didn't buy them

their PRO DESK 2.1 kick ass
the best sub intergration i have heard! super smooth!, feel like theres no sub!
very nice imaging when compare to BM5a side by side
but how ur set up ur sub for ur mixing deck, table... is another story

 

[dxl]

hard to believe a 5" speaker can justify $600 ea?
adam p11 $1,000ea 7"

?) isn't there an average size" recommended, based off room size?
kinda like TV viewing distances,
example; 10ft minimum distance for a 48" etc...12ft for 60" screen...
analogy: 10x10 bedroom= 5" ...14x14= 7", Abbey Road= Urei 813

i read some thread "if you get those type X speakers you better
have a large room!"'

confusing,
so for a small 10x10 bedroom drywall bedroom Homestudio,
maybe large 8" KRKV8's would be too much?
Maybe the right "nearfield mixing" monitors are 5" or 6" for
a 10x10?

u have to try them out to believe!
i was very suprised when i first hear that 1029a! loud, tight bass!
the new small genelect has deeper bass but the mid and high are still better on 1029a
i dont know about the small adam

as for ur room, if u have a big room but all reflectic surface... it's not going to be batter than a tiny 5x5 room with fully accusticly damped

ps. if ur still young and knowing that u have ability to hear all the high frequency or sensative to high frequency, it's best not to go with KRKV8, even tho KRKV8 version2 is a bit smoother
anyway, everyone are born to hear certain frequency more than other freq

 

[bleyrad]

monitors are such a matter of taste, it's really interesting.
i can't stand the 824's. the bass seems hyped and loose.
i like the ysm1p's better than any other budget monitor. and i've tried a lot. they seem most similar-sounding to dynaudio bm6a's. obviously not quite as good, but similar tonality and detail.

obviously the yorkies have their faults, many of which you mentioned.

every insturment and sounds tend to sound narrower than they should be on most other speakers,

i actually have never noticed that about them. interesting point though.

it's good for doing pannings but it's not a pleasure speaker for my ears
especilly it has too much high mid and a bit too bright

i agree, i run them with the hi-freq DIP switch set to -2. they're pretty well-balanced then, though maybe still just a touch too much around the 4Khz area. they also seem a little lacking in the 500Hz-1.2Khz range. just a minor quibble and something you need to keep in mind when mixing with them

anyway, i still think ysm1p is more of a canadian thing

well hell, i'm canadian, and i dig em!

basically it's an ART monitor + yorkville amp

i think you are right, but i think the ART is a rebranded ysm1i. the amp in the ysm1p also seems pretty good, far better than any of their other amps (mostly PA and stage stuff) which i'm definitely not a fan of. i don't really like much of yorkville's other equipment.
edit: just found out that Yorkville actually owns ART. man, Long and Mcquade owns EVERYTHING.

yorkville actually has the service manuals available on their website, with full schematics, PCB, and parts list! the ysm1p amp is based on a dual lm3886 design, which is actually a pretty highly regarded chip amp. pretty good design overall too.

 

[noisedude]

their PRO DESK 2.1 kick ass
the best sub intergration i have heard! super smooth!, feel like theres no sub!
very nice imaging when compare to BM5a side by side
but how ur set up ur sub for ur mixing deck, table... is another story

Ah, you see I didn't listen to them because they're very much more expensive. Every other Blue Sky system I've heard set up in the shop sounds excellent, but the Media Desk just really didn't. Fair enough!

 

[wiresix]

ps. if ur still young and knowing that u have ability to hear all the high frequency or sensative to high frequency, it's best not to go with KRKV8, even tho KRKV8 version2 is a bit smoother

haha I know I've already done away with my higher frequencies from all the band practice in a tiny reflective room, and many many concerts standing right in front of the PA because it was close to the stage, and no one else was standing there. my ears dont even ring any more

anyways... just made the deal with deepwater, and I await their delivery hopefully they are as good as people say... when it comes down to it, you just have to get used to a set of monitors. heck I've cranked out some not-so-bad mixes from a home stereo. I'm sure they are very capable

 

[CoolCat]

Sos

SOS reviewed the 8.1's, which only have tiddly little bass drivers. It wasn't a particularly positive review, said they were pleasant rather than revealing, and concluded by suggesting Alesis Active MKII as an alternative

Shame they didn't review the 8.2's.

interesting article... shows the infamous "yellow cone" Wharf.
is this speaker gonna wind up being like a collectors
item like a "57 stratocaster"????

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Jun02/articles/monitors.asp?session=34238a410e30cdc72e127d29abc52652

 

[fernandoesmaron]

a friend of me did buy the passive wharfedales and need an amp for them. Budged is till 200-250 euro.

Did see that hafler has an TA1600 amp for around 230.

Which amp would be ok ?

 

[gnergaard]

Wharfedale 8.2 vs Quad 12L? Anyone?

I'm interested in seeing if anyone has experience with both the Wharfedale 8.2 Active and the Quad 12L Active monitors. Wharfedale and Quad are essentially the same company.
They appear to be the same drivers, amps, and specs but the Wharfedales are about 1/2 price. However, the Quads have received hands-down rave reviews consistently from some pretty notable sets of ears. I'm wondering if anyone can compare both these speakers to eachother and describe any differences. I'd love to audition them myself, but no one has these things in stock near me. I've always been a big fan of wharfedale/quad products so I'm trying to narrow down my choice to these two.
I intend to buy a new set of near-midfield monitors for a home recording/music production set up in a mid-sized bedroom (10x10). Accurate midrange, non-fatigue and detail/sound imaging are my primary criteria.
Oh, and of course saving some money is never bad. But I want to know if the Wharfedales have any "shortcuts" in quality compared to the Quads.
Any and all comments would be appreciated. Feel free to email me directly, too.
Thanks!

 

[tubejay]

Thanks for the info guys! I'm going to have a check a pair of these out...sounds very interesting. Are they good for listening to music in a home environment? I have a pair of Wharfedale MFM7's that I'm pretty happy with, but I find the bass to be a little weird. The highs and mids are stellar on them though.

 

[deepwater]

I'm interested in seeing if anyone has experience with both the Wharfedale 8.2 Active and the Quad 12L Active monitors. Wharfedale and Quad are essentially the same company.
They appear to be the same drivers, amps, and specs but the Wharfedales are about 1/2 price. However, the Quads have received hands-down rave reviews consistently from some pretty notable sets of ears. I'm wondering if anyone can compare both these speakers to eachother and describe any differences. I'd love to audition them myself, but no one has these things in stock near me. I've always been a big fan of wharfedale/quad products so I'm trying to narrow down my choice to these two.
I intend to buy a new set of near-midfield monitors for a home recording/music production set up in a mid-sized bedroom (10x10). Accurate midrange, non-fatigue and detail/sound imaging are my primary criteria.
Oh, and of course saving some money is never bad. But I want to know if the Wharfedales have any "shortcuts" in quality compared to the Quads.
Any and all comments would be appreciated. Feel free to email me directly, too.
Thanks!

I posted my thougts on the Quads somewhere around here. Anyway, they have a tighter bass response and more detailed highs. I would say the differance is kinda like that between the KRK RP series and V series. I wanted to keep them, but they where my sales reps demos. I think on my next Wharfedale order I'm going to have them send me a few pair.

 

[gnergaard]

Wharfedale vs. Quad

I might be interested in the Quads...can you give me a quote?
What about experience with the rear porting? How much space do these speakers need from a wall?
-Greg

 

[deepwater]

I might be interested in the Quads...can you give me a quote?
What about experience with the rear porting? How much space do these speakers need from a wall?
-Greg

The total cost for the Quad 12L passives is $670.00 with shipping. You can PM if your interested.

 

[fernandoesmaron]

What about the new diamond 9 series ?

 

[MrKwik]

The fedex guy just dropped a pair of Wharfedale 8.2a's on my doorstep. Thanks Deepwater! I cant wait to get off work and give these things a listen. I would say that I will return with a review but since this is my very first set of monitirs I dont have anything to compare to so I will just have to go by all the positive reviews here and say they are good.

 

[deepwater]

The fedex guy just dropped a pair of Wharfedale 8.2a's on my doorstep. Thanks Deepwater! I cant wait to get off work and give these things a listen. I would say that I will return with a review but since this is my very first set of monitirs I dont have anything to compare to so I will just have to go by all the positive reviews here and say they are good.

Thanks. Hope you enjoy.

The Diamond 9s are not offered in a studio version yet.

 

[Mikeeley]

how are m-audio bx8s compared to the warfedale 8.2's?

 

[Kid Downunder]

how are m-audio bx8s compared to the warfedale 8.2's?

I think the BX8's are a better speaker. They have a larger woofer so they will reproduce the bottom end better. Everyone raves about them. They also have a whole bunch of room and filter tweaks to adjust for your room inadeqecies.

I got the 8.2a's in the end. They were in my budget and are my first speaker. I dont care so much about the sound advantages. It was more important for me to just get some\any monitors and get on with making music...

 

[Mikeeley]

thanks! anyone else agree? disagree?