We're definately over 2 CD's.... :(

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What should we do? We're not that far over that the submission fee's can pay for a third cd unless we just dupe a couple copies or something............

Let me hear it, I'm open to suggestions.

We're going to be about 100-150MB over.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Its never easy, is it?

Well, we can open the floor for more submissions to fill and make more affordable the 3rd CD. Kinda like a job listing: open till filled. I'm sure this bunch would have no trouble conjuring up another 500M. That does lock us into CD-R's, though.

I'm also willing to retract my submission (and shift my submission fee to a preorder), but at just 37M for my tune, others would have to do so as well to get us back under 3 CD's. Slack, I believe, has already shifted his submission to a shorter song. I suggest it because even though I'd love to be on the CD, I think that 2 full, replicated CD's will bring in the more cash for the BBS over time.

Anyway, that's all I can think of at this hour.

Take care,
Chris
 
The thought of people retracting just bums me out too much :( Last resort only.

Here's what I thought of last night:

1) We open it up for more submissions (as Chris mentioned) and fill the third CD. If I said that people should keep submissions 4 minutes or under, we might raise enough money to replicate 3. I'll have to see how the quotes for the double come back today.

2) We bite it and have 150 sets of 3 duplicated. If I have it done in bulk it's actually pretty cheap. We can just say that this comp cd isn't the coolest, and hold off for replication until the next one, for which I have an idea that will guarantee that we can replicate. I could also have the jackets professionally printed so they'd look great....so at least this CD would be slightly upgraded from the previous. I'll email the duper today.

3) We get people to back out...but that would just make me feel like dick. I'm not really considering this option. Besides, the idea was to duplicate until I got a wild hair and got everybody all excited.

Maybe I have the wrong idea, but this CD is all about 2 things:

- Raising money for the BBS.

- Giving BBS members the chance to be on a unique CD.

I'd be happy if we could send Dragon 500-1000 dollars, even if we blew a lot of money on replication. Reason being that I can't imagine $1000 not covering BBS costs for a year or so, although dragon has never told me what it really costs. Plus a lot of us amature homerec'ers aren't going to get a lot of chances to be on a "real" CD. This project is for us too!

At any rate, that's just my take. We're all in this together...it's not just my project, it's everyone's!!

Slackmaster 2000
 
Yeah, I'm with you Slack, No retractions if possible..

Lets try to fill this third sucker up


Joe
 
Got a quote back from the duper:

$535 for 150 sets duped and printed (laserjet).

I could spend a couple hundred on having jackets printed up.

We'd already be making a profit.

Let's say we sell 100 CD's at full profit. That's $2000. I could give $1000 to Dragon and keep $1000 for Volume 3. Thus, Volume 3 could also be 3 CD's, but we could afford to replicate.

It's one option. If I took this route I would not open the CD up to more submissions...I'd just spread the 35+ tunes over the 3 discs and get it done.

Comments appreciated...anyone?

Slackmaster 2000
 
Wow, that is pretty inexpensive.

I'd say go for it, get it done, and we'll save more sophistication for Comp 3. As long as its "already making a profit" and we don't get bogged down with trying to make it perfect (sound familiar, all you mixers out there?) I can live with duped CD's.

I'm pretty excited. In one post, Slack, you've taken my perception of the current Comp CD from slightly underfunded and over full to...we've already made a profit even with farming out the jackets.

Cool.

-Chris
 
After writing that I did feel much better. I am still disappointed about not being able to rep, but at least we can get the project done.

We'll see....there's still some time to decide...

Slackmaster 2000
 
Slack that certainly sounds reasonable to me. You're sticking to your original submission process and doing the best with the resources you have. Can't argue with that.

I gues there's another option you haven't brought up. Maybe because you don't want to be the one to do it? In any case, I'll bring it up - increasing the submission/pre-order cost so it covers the cost of replicating Volume 2.

I can't imagine it being a huge increase once it's spread over the cost of all the sets, so I'm sure I'd be willing to send in a second money order to cover the higher costs. Does this sound like something you other guys are willing to do? Slack, have you crunched any numbers to figure out what we really need per person to replicate this volume?


Dave O.
 
I'm going to do that next time actually. I'd feel so stupid having to ask people to send me more money now.

Next time there will be a per-minute submission fee that is large enough to pay for replicating. That combined with some sort of limit on total submissions, e.g. a disk has to be 3/4 full to be worthwhile, and we should be able to do it.

For instance: $7 per minute with a 3 minute minimum, then $3.50 per 30 seconds after that, roundnig UP to the nearest half minute. Thus to submit a 2 minute song would require $21. A 3:00 minute song would be $21. A 3:02 song would be $14.50. A 3:31 song would be $28. And so on....

Slackmaster 2000
 
DaveO said:

I'd be willing to send in a second money order to cover the higher costs.
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I second this. If you decide to do it this way it is no problem for me!

If everyone would pre order one for a friend or family member that would be coooo..
 
scottboyher said:
If everyone would pre order one for a friend or family member that would be coooo..
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Already did! I included a pre-order with my submission package, so I'll get two copies.

Slackmaster, the idea about paying per minute is pretty good. And fortunately for me that doesn't apply to my 5:08 submission for this volume. If it did then I'd be out $38.50 just for my submission, then an additional pre-order on top of that. Yikes! Luckily we already have some shorter ones I could use for Volume 3.

One other thing, I'm assuming that pay-by-the-minute idea for the next volume won't affect the one-song-per-submitter rule. In other words, just because someone is willing to pay for 8 songs totalling 45 minutes doesn't mean you will let that happen, right? I'm not planning to do that, but I'm just asking in case anyone else is thinking of going nuts.
 
Well, because the average homerec'er is broke, it's not really "fair" in my mind to allow people to submit multiple songs when many others couldn't afford to do so.

I've had a few people want to submit multiple tunes...I think I added it to the faq towards the end of the submission process (e.g. when it was already too late).

Slackmaster 2000
 
Two things Slack, and y'all:

I will gladly pay more money to make this happen.

For Vol 3, you can still only submit one tune. For me, the whole point is that it's us - lots of different tunes, ideas, skill levels (both musical and behind the desk) and the eclecticism that comes from that.

If it is a pay per minute deal, I'm okay with that, too.
 
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