Unhappy with New Les Paul

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When you post starts with "Geez...there's a lot of mythology running through this thread!"
and blow your own opinions and mythology all over your response what do you expect? You post came over as mean spirited so you can hardly moan when you get some back.

You know what? My assessment was basically that, without seeing the guitar, then any specific recommendation is speculation. Maybe his nut is poorly cut - maybe not. Maybe the bridge is too high - or not. Until you see it, you don't know for sure what the problem is.
His nut being poorly cut would not cause buzzing all the way up the neck. Period. I stated earlier in the thread that a decent setup would include adjusting the nut. If it hasn't been done he has been charged for work that has not been carried out. In which case he needs to get it done or get a refund. Period.

The bridge being to high will not cause buzzing all the way up the neck. I don't need to see the guitar to tell him, you or anyone that. Period.

I am 99% sure of the problem if the information he has given is correct. I don't need to see it. Why? because I see tens of guitars every week and build them for a living. I have done for many years. I advise blind when the problem is pretty obvious. Admittedly I always put a caveat on it until it's in my workshop. One thing I can say 100% is what the problem is NOT down to.

Which is exactly what I said he should do. Apparently, you missed that part. Except that I'd skip the step of taking it back a third time, since they already messed it up twice.
No I didn't miss it because I had already said it myself. The part about taking it back is to give them a chance to rectify or refund. If don't want your money back for services not supplied thats your business. Myself I like to get what I pay for and get payed fairly for what I do.

Bending the string at the post works, and I offered the tip to be helpful. It's not my invention, but I've used it for years. Believe what you want, I don't give a damn if you want to superglue your strings in, but you don't have to be a dick about it.
Bending the string at the post happens automatically when stringing a guitar. Bending the string at the exit point is a waste of time. In terms of who has wound the most strings onto tuners between members of this forum I would guess I'd be in the top two. To set the matter right you only need 2 or 3 turns on the post running the string down the post and can cut them flush at the exit point. Strings just don't slip on the post unless you wrap them a dozen or so times. Even then they would settle in. Some folks like a few more turns on the higher strings but it's really not required. Nylons are are different matter.

If putting you right so others don't go around proper gating more myths about stringing guitars and possible tuning problems makes me a "dick" so be it, I'm a dick.

If I thought you really wanted an answer I'd explain it. Since the rest of your post is so mean-spirited, do your own research if you really want to know.
No I really am intrigued. I've done my own research including a degree in musical acoustics and its still unclear to me. Please enlighten me.
 
????

why cant we all get along ?????????? and play nice togeather ?????
 
crazy ??

me crazy ??? hell yes ........ and sadly i know why we all cant get along ....... the ones that think they know everything realy piss off the ones that actualy do know everything ....... as long as we have that we will never quite get along .......... not to offend anyone just stating a fact
 
me crazy ??? hell yes ........ and sadly i know why we all cant get along ....... the ones that think they know everything realy piss off the ones that actualy do know everything ....... as long as we have that we will never quite get along .......... not to offend anyone just stating a fact

Huh? :confused: :confused:
 
ok

ok maby i over-medicated myself today ?? just a little ??????
 
Sorry guys I guess thats my fault:rolleyes: but when some one chimes in with a bit of attitude and starts banging on about "mythology" while parroting all the sensible stuff thats already been said and STILL manages to add two more bits of mythology/mis-information to the thread I do get the ump;)

Being told I'm stupid and ugly I can live with that. Being told I'm wrong I can live with that too. Being told I'm mean spirited? Well I guess not:D

I'll chill for the rest of the night.
 
Are planet waves tuners taller than stock? If the place there the string exits the cut-off tuner is higher off the headstock than where a string comes off a post with a few winds on it, would that turn your decent guitar instantly shitty? I don't have an LP so I don't knof ig the headstock angle makes that a moot point.

Sorry, no sass. Just didn't see that mentioned.
 
Are planet waves tuners taller than stock? If the place there the string exits the cut-off tuner is higher off the headstock than where a string comes off a post with a few winds on it, would that turn your decent guitar instantly shitty? I don't have an LP so I don't knof ig the headstock angle makes that a moot point.

Sorry, no sass. Just didn't see that mentioned.


Good thought, but no, they are not unusually tall, so I wouldn't suspect that to be the case. More to the point, that would only be an issue with open strings, and he described the buzz as being all over.


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M.K. Gandhi
 
Get your money back if you can and take it to a well respected tech or luthier. I agree with pretty much everything muttley said....trust me , he knows what he's talking about:D
 
because i play Eb, and it was setup to E when i got it, naturally.


i already stated it was a GIBSON LP.


i spent 50 for a setup and tuner installation. i have the same tuners and another guitar, and dont have this problem. they are planetwaves auto trims. they are nice, at least on my other guitar.


one thing i noticed a few times is that the strings come out of the slot in the bridge. its happened a few times to me.

Take it to a reputable shop or a local luthier...:(
 
i put graphite in my nut, and it seems to be MUCH more stable now. i played 2 or 3 songs in a row and it was still in tune. which was impossible before. i'm be lucky to go more than a minute without noticing it.
 
i put graphite in my nut, and it seems to be MUCH more stable now. i played 2 or 3 songs in a row and it was still in tune. which was impossible before. i'm be lucky to go more than a minute without noticing it.

I'm vindicated! ;^)

A sticky nut (for the tuning probs, not the buzzing frets) was my diagnosis.
 
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