JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
How do I download one of those clips, Greg? They just play in my browser.
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Greg_L
Banned
I think just right click, save as
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
Cheers, mate. I was being a fucking pleb.
Here's the mix with your clip. It certainly adds the meat I'm after but there is a bit of flub in there too. Your amping is panned 50% right. My rhythm track is still 50% left where it was before.
View attachment Phyridge Magnets Teh Gerg Amp.mp3
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Greg_L
Banned
Haha yeah that's how I imagined it when I first heard it. That's like 80s Judas Priest or Maiden kind of JCM 800 tone that I was talking about. The flub isn't so bad in the mix. Very meaty, tight mids, articulate highs.
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
Interesting evening of messing about with clips. Ah, should sent miner a DI of the rhythm track, then we coulda stuck miners amp for the rhythm.
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Greg_L
Banned
Oh by the way JDude, the settings if you care....
Marshall JCM 800 2203
Presence - 5
Bass - 6
Mid - 7
Treb - 7
Preamp vol - 8
Master vol - 6
Marshall 1960B 4x12 - Vintage 30
Shure SM 57 on axis, on grill, just outside of dustcap
Marshall JCM 800 2203
Presence - 5
Bass - 6
Mid - 7
Treb - 7
Preamp vol - 8
Master vol - 6
Marshall 1960B 4x12 - Vintage 30
Shure SM 57 on axis, on grill, just outside of dustcap
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
Jesus fuck, I bet that was loud.
minerman
Tonetard
Here's Jdod's clip ran through the EVH. I did 2 takes, one with an SD-1 (clean boost), & one without...
Signal chain:
DI>EVH LBX> V30>i5 (I did lower the di's item volume -3db in Reaper to keep it from clipping)
Amp settings:
15w mode
Red channel
Resonance:........2-3
Bass:................8
Mid:..................2
Treble:..............7
Presence:..........6
Gain:................3.5
Volume:............4
JDOD EVH
JDOD SD-1 EVH
It probably would've been better using the blue channel with the boost, but it tighten the red channel up a little...
I think part of the mushy-ness is due to the di being tracked so hot like Greg mentioned. You might wanna drop the pre-amp gain on your interface a little dude...
Signal chain:
DI>EVH LBX> V30>i5 (I did lower the di's item volume -3db in Reaper to keep it from clipping)
Amp settings:
15w mode
Red channel
Resonance:........2-3
Bass:................8
Mid:..................2
Treble:..............7
Presence:..........6
Gain:................3.5
Volume:............4
JDOD EVH
JDOD SD-1 EVH
It probably would've been better using the blue channel with the boost, but it tighten the red channel up a little...
I think part of the mushy-ness is due to the di being tracked so hot like Greg mentioned. You might wanna drop the pre-amp gain on your interface a little dude...
rayc
retroreprobate
Ah,
this image is probably almost as old as the film clip.
One's amusing and the other is a work by a band in a BIG slump.
this image is probably almost as old as the film clip.
One's amusing and the other is a work by a band in a BIG slump.
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
Cheers, Miner. Yeah, its a little mushy, but that's probably more to do with my signal. Sounds great though - SD1 clip is my favourite, for similar reasons to when I was listening to Greg's clips - the palm muting is tighter.
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Greg_L
Banned
Since the low end is mushy in your clips too, I have to just assume it's the character of that pickup combined with being tracked scorching hot. I know JBs are very popular for hard rock/classic metal tones and have been for a long time, but that's exactly why I don't particularly like them. All of the JB experience I have results in the same thing - mush. A friend of mine had a Strat and a Les Paul with JBs in each. Both guitars sounded mushy to my ears. They're just too much. Too hot, too fat, too bright, too everything. I suppose at their inception they were great because amps didn't have much gain. A smoldering pickup pushing a mild amp is a good thing. Now, with amps the way they are, I think people should choose one or the other. Hot pickup, or hot amp. Pick one and go. Both being hot is a recipe for mush. Just my opinion.
LOL. Wtf is that?
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Greg_L
Banned
If you like what you're getting, don't change anything. But yeah, pickup height will make a big difference. Don't go crazy though. It doesn't take much movement to notice changes. Lowering the pickup will give you a little better clarity and cost you some output, but go too far and the sound will get sterile and lifeless.
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
I'll definitely try lowering the pickup slightly to see what effect it has - I do like the sound I'm getting at the moment but it can be a touch harsh. Maybe lowering it will just take the harshness out of it.
I'll make sure that I measure it beforehand so I can get it back to where I am if it goes wrong - I've obviously got my amp dialed in for my guitar as it is - I just had no idea that it was that hot until I did that experiment last night.
I'll make sure that I measure it beforehand so I can get it back to where I am if it goes wrong - I've obviously got my amp dialed in for my guitar as it is - I just had no idea that it was that hot until I did that experiment last night.
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Greg_L
Banned
Yeah use something like a machinists scale or calipers or something. It only takes....in your language....millimeters. Fractions of millimeters. I usually do mine 1/4-1/2 turn of the adjustment screws at a time.
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Greg_L
Banned
Being a machinist myself, I use one of these simple 6" scales for damn near everything setup related. My eyes are still good enough to read it, so it works out.
It goes to 1/64". If I need to go finer than that, I'm using calipers or micrometers. Nothing on a guitar that I can do needs finer measurement than 1/64".
It goes to 1/64". If I need to go finer than that, I'm using calipers or micrometers. Nothing on a guitar that I can do needs finer measurement than 1/64".
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
Yeah, I'll just try lowering it by 1mm and see what happens. I don't have a tube amp with me during the week. The "Transtube" on the Peavy is pretty good at pretending to be valves but I'd rather take some comparative clips with my Blackstar.
minerman
Tonetard
I did everything I could think of to tighten those clips up yesterday, then plugged my SG in just to see if it'd make any difference, & there was a huge difference, so it probably is the p'up's character, along with being tracked so hot. That kinda shocks me in a way, because a lot of the 80's players I like used that p'up...
The little LBX amp does get farty/mushy when the volume is up about 7-8, & higher, but I even tried the di with the amp at low volume, & it did the same thing...
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Greg_L
Banned
Yeah and they also used milder amps and boost pedals....and they weren't reamping with mega-hot wav files. I bet if JDOD came over and plugged straight in to the amp it'd be a lot better.
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
Yeah, sounds great through my amp and I like the character of the pickup. I will lower it slightly though as it shouldn't be clipping my AI