The New Tone Thread

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Minerman, had I caught you in time I would have advised you to make an image of the virgin PC before you load it up. As it is, if it is in a stable state make one now or, if you are not familiar with imaging software, at least set a Restore point.

Is the new PC Win 7 or W10? If the former I would make a set of recovery discs and a "repair" disc. I have no idea how that works for W10. I DO know Ten hides Restore under a bushel but I am told it IS still there!

In the last 10yrs or so, Restore has saved my ass many times and I have had to do at least two full Recoveries from discs.

Dave.
 
ecc83 said:
Minerman, had I caught you in time I would have advised you to make an image of the virgin PC before you load it up. As it is, if it is in a stable state make one now or, if you are not familiar with imaging software, at least set a Restore point.

Is the new PC Win 7 or W10? If the former I would make a set of recovery discs and a "repair" disc. I have no idea how that works for W10. I DO know Ten hides Restore under a bushel but I am told it IS still there!

In the last 10yrs or so, Restore has saved my ass many times and I have had to do at least two full Recoveries from discs.

Dave.
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Thanks Dave, but I'm already ahead of you man. That's the first thing I did after making sure the pc would boot up & do what it should. I've got a restore disc of just the operating system with nothing else installed in case something happens...I've used the factory restore thing a few times on other computers too, but the disc is the way to go...Thanks dude...

I'm gonna call it a night, I've installed about 30 or so dvd's of software & it's getting to be a pain, so I'll finish up in the morning. Should have some new tones with the little 15w EVH amp too...

Thanks again!!!
 
To tell the truth...it might save you a few minutes time...but imaging just the bare-bones OS is not critical IMHO.
I mean, it doesn't really take any time at all to drop a fresh install of Win 7 if you have the disc.

If anything...imaging the system AFTER you install all your apps is the more critical thing to do...again...IMHO...YMMV... :)

The system restore is cool...but if your HD shits the bed, then the image will get you the OS and everything else you installed in a few minutes time.
 
Follow up on tone time...
Here's a completed MP3 (320) of The Keeper with Greg playing guitars & Bubba po singing. The guitars sound monstrously big/good and Bob's vox are sweet to my ears. The Drums, as previously noted, are Band In A Box RealDrums and the bass is me.

Guitars - 4 tracks in total - R rhythm, L rhythm, trem in the chorus & lead for the solos.
Greg may offer details - at least one is Les Paul and all are into Marshalls.
Drums - BIAB stereo track with a little EQ to reduce the hihat a little.
Bass - Vantage from 81 into a Joyo MXR clone compressor, (very lightly comp'd), and into a Behri BDI21 then directly into the interface.
 
rayc said:
Follow up on tone time...
Here's a completed MP3 (320) of The Keeper with Greg playing guitars & Bubba po singing. The guitars sound monstrously big/good and Bob's vox are sweet to my ears. The Drums, as previously noted, are Band In A Box RealDrums and the bass is me.

Guitars - 4 tracks in total - R rhythm, L rhythm, trem in the chorus & lead for the solos.
Greg may offer details - at least one is Les Paul and all are into Marshalls.
Drums - BIAB stereo track with a little EQ to reduce the hihat a little.
Bass - Vantage from 81 into a Joyo MXR clone compressor, (very lightly comp'd), and into a Behri BDI21 then directly into the interface.
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I likes it ... nice mix .... nice and punky .... everything sounds good to me and yes, the vocals are great ... good job .... gotta go!
 
Yeah I like it.

I don't remember too many details on the guitars. I know the left guitar is the P90 SG, the right guitar is probably the Goldtop LP. The subtle trem guitar is definitely the Hallmark Mosrite. I wouldn't do a clean trem with anything else. The leads are anyone's guess. I have no idea what guitar I used for the leads. I wanna say it's the Angus SG because it was in heavy rotation at that time, but I'm not sure. No idea on the amps either. By the sound of them, I'm gonna suspect I used one of the Plexis for the rhythms and maybe the 800 for the leads. Hope this helps. :laughings:
 
rayc said:
Follow up on tone time...
Here's a completed MP3 (320) of The Keeper with Greg playing guitars & Bubba po singing. The guitars sound monstrously big/good and Bob's vox are sweet to my ears. The Drums, as previously noted, are Band In A Box RealDrums and the bass is me.

Guitars - 4 tracks in total - R rhythm, L rhythm, trem in the chorus & lead for the solos.
Greg may offer details - at least one is Les Paul and all are into Marshalls.
Drums - BIAB stereo track with a little EQ to reduce the hihat a little.
Bass - Vantage from 81 into a Joyo MXR clone compressor, (very lightly comp'd), and into a Behri BDI21 then directly into the interface.
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That sounds good, Ray. You seem to have mastered that BIAB thing!
I like your bass tone too, what is a BDI21? I can add a bit of comp in Reaper but I'm interested in what else you're doing with it.
Guitars sound good of course.

I'd also be interested to know what sort of mic, preamp, verb and comp Bubba is using - seems like it would be a decent starting point for me as I'm just groping around in the dark with tracking vocals.
 
Speaking of Les Pauls and Plexis...

A little backstory...my band Crank Case is putting together an "influences" cover album for a charity gig we're doing later in the year and it's gonna be a giveaway thing. So all of the guys picked a few songs from their own influences and we're gonna cover them. We've got a weird mix spanning from Ramones to Ozzy. One of the songs selected was Joan Jett's "Bad Reputation". A great, simple rock and roll song. So I'm learning all these songs and whipping up crude demos just to see how they're gonna work.

I started with Bad Reputation because it's simple as fuck. I'm gonna track real drums, but just for demo'ing I'm using bone stock ez drummer....which sucks balls because I can real drum this whole album in the time it takes to make one usable ez drum track. But anyway, the point of all this is rambling is the guitar tracks. I love the guitar tracks I got for this little demo mix and I spent exactly 0 seconds giving a fuck about any of it. I literally just pointed a 57 at a speaker, flipped the amp on, plugged in and hit the gas. And I think, for me, these rhythm tracks kick ass. :thumbs up:

I've fiddled around with the amp settings since doing this, so I don't know where they were and didn't look at them anyway. But this is what I do know...

Les Paul Traditional
Marshall 1987x - 50w Plexi
Marshall 1960A 4x12 - Celestion G12-65
SM57 on axis, on grill, somewhere a little off center
No EQ, a tiny bit of reverb in the mix

I Don't Give a Damn About My Bad Reputation
 
Good rock guitar tone...crunchy without any hash and fizz. :thumbs up:

How hard were you driving the amp...?
 
miroslav said:
Good rock guitar tone...crunchy without any hash and fizz. :thumbs up:

How hard were you driving the amp...?
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Thanks miro.

Well since it's a Plexi, there is no actual volume control. You know how they are, the volumes are more like "gain" knobs. Put the knob on 1 or 10 and you have an insanely loud clean or an insanely loud roar. I do know that I didn't attenuate it because the Weber is sitting in it's box right now, so the amp was wide open. Looking at the amp now, Vol 1 is on 7, Vol 2 is on 0, the cable is in high input 1, and the channels are not jumped, so that's probably how I had it. Vol 1 on 7. Seems about right for that tone. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)
 
JDOD said:
I'd also be interested to know what sort of mic, preamp, verb and comp Bubba is using - seems like it would be a decent starting point for me as I'm just groping around in the dark with tracking vocals.
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Hi, Jdud. I'm using an NT1A straight into my Focusrite 18i20. There's a couple of Focusrite RED professional plugins free with the higher end interfaces, one of which is a compressor. I used that, both on the way in when tracking then again on the way out when rendering the wavs for Ray's project. Fairly fast attack and release with at least 5:1 on the ratio and the threshold set on the low side. That type of vocal needs me to just be able throw everything at the mic performance-wise without worrying about volume spikes and the like.

[edit] The plugins are now free with ALL Focusrite interfaces.
 
Greg_L said:
Speaking of Les Pauls and Plexis...

A little backstory...my band Crank Case is putting together an "influences" cover album for a charity gig we're doing later in the year and it's gonna be a giveaway thing. So all of the guys picked a few songs from their own influences and we're gonna cover them. We've got a weird mix spanning from Ramones to Ozzy. One of the songs selected was Joan Jett's "Bad Reputation". A great, simple rock and roll song. So I'm learning all these songs and whipping up crude demos just to see how they're gonna work.

I started with Bad Reputation because it's simple as fuck. I'm gonna track real drums, but just for demo'ing I'm using bone stock ez drummer....which sucks balls because I can real drum this whole album in the time it takes to make one usable ez drum track. But anyway, the point of all this is rambling is the guitar tracks. I love the guitar tracks I got for this little demo mix and I spent exactly 0 seconds giving a fuck about any of it. I literally just pointed a 57 at a speaker, flipped the amp on, plugged in and hit the gas. And I think, for me, these rhythm tracks kick ass. :thumbs up:

I've fiddled around with the amp settings since doing this, so I don't know where they were and didn't look at them anyway. But this is what I do know...

Les Paul Traditional
Marshall 1987x - 50w Plexi
Marshall 1960A 4x12 - Celestion G12-65
SM57 on axis, on grill, somewhere a little off center
No EQ, a tiny bit of reverb in the mix

I Don't Give a Damn About My Bad Reputation
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Tones sound great, your EZ Drummering sounds great too.
 
Bubba po said:
Hi, Jdud. I'm using an NT1A straight into my Focusrite 18i20. There's a couple of Focusrite RED professional plugins free with the higher end interfaces, one of which is a compressor. I used that, both on the way in when tracking then again on the way out when rendering the wavs for Ray's project. Fairly fast attack and release with at least 5:1 on the ratio and the threshold set on the low side. That type of vocal needs me to just be able throw everything at the mic performance-wise without worrying about volume spikes and the like.

[edit] The plugins are now free with ALL Focusrite interfaces.
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Cheers, mate. I will download them. I didn't download or install anything except the drivers for my 2i2 - I didn't want option paralysis. But now I know what I'm looking for I'll check it out.
 
Greg_L said:
Speaking of Les Pauls and Plexis...

A little backstory...my band Crank Case is putting together an "influences" cover album for a charity gig we're doing later in the year and it's gonna be a giveaway thing. So all of the guys picked a few songs from their own influences and we're gonna cover them. We've got a weird mix spanning from Ramones to Ozzy. One of the songs selected was Joan Jett's "Bad Reputation". A great, simple rock and roll song. So I'm learning all these songs and whipping up crude demos just to see how they're gonna work.

I started with Bad Reputation because it's simple as fuck. I'm gonna track real drums, but just for demo'ing I'm using bone stock ez drummer....which sucks balls because I can real drum this whole album in the time it takes to make one usable ez drum track. But anyway, the point of all this is rambling is the guitar tracks. I love the guitar tracks I got for this little demo mix and I spent exactly 0 seconds giving a fuck about any of it. I literally just pointed a 57 at a speaker, flipped the amp on, plugged in and hit the gas. And I think, for me, these rhythm tracks kick ass. :thumbs up:

I've fiddled around with the amp settings since doing this, so I don't know where they were and didn't look at them anyway. But this is what I do know...

Les Paul Traditional
Marshall 1987x - 50w Plexi
Marshall 1960A 4x12 - Celestion G12-65
SM57 on axis, on grill, somewhere a little off center
No EQ, a tiny bit of reverb in the mix

I Don't Give a Damn About My Bad Reputation
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Those guitars sound great. Fantastic job.
 
JDOD said:
Cheers, mate. I will download them. I didn't download or install anything except the drivers for my 2i2 - I didn't want option paralysis. But now I know what I'm looking for I'll check it out.
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The Scarlett plugins are great, too. I use the gate and the reverb a LOT.
 
You guys rocked that shit! All sounds good. Bubba has that perfect classic Brit punk voice.
:thumbs up:

@Greg those tracks sound good. Might even make me like the punk genre a little more.
:D
 
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Bubba po said:
The Scarlett plugins are great, too. I use the gate and the reverb a LOT.
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Cheers, they'll come really handy. That compressor particularly, im using a full open throated raw quite a few times but with relatively chilled out bits in between.
 
Ray: Cool song, nice mix, great guitar tones dude....well done!!!!

Greg: Pretty impressive dude, the guitar tones are smokin' as usual, but your use of fake drums is great man!!!


Almost got the new pc ready to roll, just a few more little tweaks & installs, then it'll be ready...Might be the "new" thing, but it seems way faster than my old pc, even when it was new, so overall I'm happy with it...The external case thingy I bought is great too, I can use my old hdd's with it (via usb 3.0) to copy/transfer what I want to the new pc, & I'm super impressed at how fast it does this...

Should have some tones from the EVH 15w in a little while...:)
 
Ray...
Everything really sounds good on that recording.
Bubba Po....
Great vocal track!
greg...
Man, killer tone on the bad rep. song. The EZ drummer sound really good too. I may have to give the EZ drummer a shot. Since my drummer died drums are a big obstacle for me now.
Is EZ drummer really hard to use....For a dumb assed non drumming redneck like me I mean?
 
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