The New Tone Thread

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Lt. Bob said:
oweee ....... kidney stone!

Glad it's finally eased off, I have a gig in a few hours ...... 10 hours of intense pain sucks unless you're an emo.
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Damn dude, I've never had one, but I've heard those things hurt....Hope it works out for ya....
 
minerman said:
Damn dude, I've never had one, but I've heard those things hurt....Hope it works out for ya....
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Yeah they suck .... started about 6pm and basically incredible pain 'till around 4am and then it was over .... passed the stone.

It's pretty miserable ...... I handle pain well but this is fairly rough.

But once it's passed you're fine and I be's fine, thank you for the kind thoughts.
 
Ok, more ampsim/real amp shit here guys, I put some fake drums to this one though....Same thing as before, one guitar is my DSL, & the other is AT4....Just fuckin' around as usual here, this little laptop can't even handle 3 tracks: ampsim, real amp, & drum loops...lol...

A Real Ampsim


See if you guys can guess this one...There is a tiny amount of reverb on both guitars on this, no other daw trickery other than that though....
 
minerman said:
From what I've heard about kidney stones when a man passes one, it's the equivalent of having a baby....:eek:.
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I've talked to several women who have had both and they all said the kidney stone was way worse.

Greg_L said:
Damn Boob. So is it really like peeing out a rock?
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Not really, ..... once it gets to your dinger you're fine.
The pain is when it blocks the kidney from emptying into the bladder ..... apparently your kidney doesn't like being stretched at all when it can't empty and pee starts building up.

The pain is in your side ...... not very localized ..... more of a large section of your side and around to the back a bit.
If you didn't know what it was you might very well think you're dying.
 
minerman said:
See if you guys can guess this one...There is a tiny amount of reverb on both guitars on this, no other daw trickery other than that though....
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I am going to guess the right is the sim. Simply because the left is trying to bury the right. But i am also left ear dominant with ear buds. But they honestly both sound pretty deadly.

Also, fuck kidney stones. glad they didn't get the best of you Lt Bob!!!
 
Since nobody's else is gonna guess, the ampsim is on the left, & DSL on the right....Sorry Shan, you got it backwards dude.......
 
Well, at least you can say you're passed it Lt. Bob - bad pun and all. Something to remind male folk to drink LOTS of water on a daily basis. Me, I have a cuppa at 6am, 1/2 a cup of coffee at 11 and some ginger (root) beer with dinner so I'm a candidate for one of those rude rocks.
 
Holy shit, Bob. Glad you got through that shit. The only time I ever saw my Dad suffer like a little kid was when he had the dreaded stones. I'm glad it's over for you.


JDOD said:
Grunge tone with
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I like the clean sound and the lead. The dirty rythm tone sounds perfect for grunge. It's a little scratchy and dark for my tastes, but actually suits this piece of music just fine.
 
Hey guys, a quick question not worth starting a thread over.

If I want more sustain on a lead sound, but I don't want to add gain, what do I do? I like the tone I have for a certain lead solo, but I want the notes to sustain more, so I don't want to add any gain or distortion.

Are we talking compressor? If so, does it go right after the guitar and before the amp? Or after the amp?
 
RAMI said:
Hey guys, a quick question not worth starting a thread over.

If I want more sustain on a lead sound, but I don't want to add gain, what do I do? I like the tone I have for a certain lead solo, but I want the notes to sustain more, so I don't want to add any gain or distortion.

Are we talking compressor? If so, does it go right after the guitar and before the amp? Or after the amp?
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Yeah, I'd go compressor. I'd just stick it into the front of the amp. The Yellow Comp from Mooer seems to work fine and it was less than 50 quid.

I noticed that scratchness to the tone, I couldn't work out how to dial it out.

The Lead/solo on that song is actually through an old sim of a Marshall. I writing the solo as I was recording so I was doing loads of takes - I didn't want to be continually widdling at recording volume.
 
RAMI said:
Hey guys, a quick question not worth starting a thread over.

If I want more sustain on a lead sound, but I don't want to add gain, what do I do? I like the tone I have for a certain lead solo, but I want the notes to sustain more, so I don't want to add any gain or distortion.

Are we talking compressor? If so, does it go right after the guitar and before the amp? Or after the amp?
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Yup, what JDude said. Compressor before the amp. But I like one thing better for that - feedback!
 
Thanx guys. Here's the track in question. It's the same un-finished tune I've been posting, but I've worked on the rythm guitar sound a lot, and I added solos in three different places.

(Again, I still haven't got around around to recording the drums yet, so don't mind the cheesy drum machine)

I didn't add any compressor to the lead in this clip, so you guys can here if it lacks sustain like I think it might.
 

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The good old Boss CS-3 compression sustainer is great for this kind of task. I've had one for a long time now. It's very good at adding sustain and sensitivity without adding gain or dirt.

I even bought a Keeley 4-knob with the aim of replacing the CS3. While the Keeley is a really great compressor, it still doesn't do the out-of-control sustaining that the CS3 can do. The CS3 just isn't as good at transparently taming peaks as the Keeley. So I keep them both on the pedalboard, the Keeley for cleans and the CS3 for solos.

Listening to the mp3 on a consumer 5.1 system, the doubled guitars sounded chorus-y. Could be the combination of the panning and my center channel doing its weird "smoosh the stereo field together" thing though. I like the rhythm guitar tone.

One thing to try just for fun is to put a room reverb on the guitar solos. Sometimes a subtle ambience acts kind of like a slap-back delay would in helping their presence in a mix. Sometimes I use a little, sometimes a lot. But I find myself doing that more often than not lately. I have a couple of drum room and "studio B" impulses that I love for that kind of thing.
 
I think the lead stuff sounds good, doesn't need compression IMO. weird though, the Rhythm guitars seem to have gone back towards that scoopy sound you had in the earlier mixes. I think I'm listening on the same headphones too. I think the guitars sounded better on one of the earlier mixes.
 
Tadpui said:
The good old Boss CS-3 compression sustainer is great for this kind of task. I've had one for a long time now. It's very good at adding sustain and sensitivity without adding gain or dirt.
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Cool. I'll check that out. Thanx.

You might be right about the rythms. I"ve been working on them for so long that I might have lost perspective and gone back to screwing them up again.
 
JDOD said:
I think the lead stuff sounds good, doesn't need compression IMO. weird though, the Rhythm guitars seem to have gone back towards that scoopy sound you had in the earlier mixes. I think I'm listening on the same headphones too. I think the guitars sounded better on one of the earlier mixes.
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OK good about the leads. Yeah, I've been trying so many different settings and things with the rythms that I might have to go back to how they were a couple of posts ago. I probably have to just get away from this for a while because I don't even know what I'm hearing any more.
 
another compressor vote ..... if you wanna buy one the Xotix Effects SP Compressor is excellent ....... I use one live and just leave it on all the time.
 
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