JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
As you know, I am planning on it. Another month and I should have the cash together. At the moment I am edging towards a Blackstar Club 40. Borrowing a fender power chorus of a mate to tide me over.
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Greg_L
Banned
Haha, awesome dude. 40 watts of tube power is gonna be nice and loud.
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
yeah, looks like either that of a Peavey Valve King.
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Greg_L
Banned
Blackstar > Peavey
minerman
Tonetard
Oh....I thought it was a tube amp dude...sorry...
Guess it's time to go buy the DSL40 I've been recommending then ain't it???
The DSL's are pretty versatile amps man, yes, I'm a Marshall fanboy, always have been, always will be, but with the right speaker that amp can pretty much cover about any style of tones you'd want....Just sayin'......
Guess it's time to go buy the DSL40 I've been recommending then ain't it???
The DSL's are pretty versatile amps man, yes, I'm a Marshall fanboy, always have been, always will be, but with the right speaker that amp can pretty much cover about any style of tones you'd want....Just sayin'......
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
Yeah, I just haven't seen a DSL in a shop to try out. The Chinese valve Kings were very cheap too which was handy
minerman
Tonetard
I'm sure the Blackstar 40w would be a good amp dude, but remember, in my experiences with Blackstar amps, they sound "generic" to me...The bigger models (like the 40w) might not, but the HT-5 I had was ok, just really bland/plain sounding...But, you gotta figure that's almost the cheapest amp they make too, and, you kinda get what you pay for with this shit...
I still recommend the DSL40 dude...
I still recommend the DSL40 dude...
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
I'm just a hobbyist.. And along with surfing, climbing, boxing and snowboarding I don't have that much money to spend on amps.
Lt. Bob
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the Blackstar Club 40 is a great amp. I can't imagine not liking it.
I have a friend that gigs on one based on my recommendation and he loves it.
If I was buying one I'd go for that over the DSL40 personally ..... I like the ability to get a variety of sounds which it'll do better than the DSL.
Now, if what you want is a Marshall sound period, then fine .... a Marshall will do that the best without doubt.
...... but there are other sounds than Marshall and I'm personally not obsessed with getting the same exact Marshall sound on everything I play nor would I be happy if that was the only sound I had.
And I'd absolutely get the Blackstar over the peavey ..... the Valve Kings I've heard didn't sound that great to me although it could have been the players.
Also ..... I'm not sure what 'generic' might even mean as far as not liking an amps' sound.
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Greg_L
Banned
There are a lot of mid-price intermediate tube amps out there that all kind of have the same bland sound. That's the "generic" sound. Jet City, Egnater, Bugera, Peavey, DV Mark, some Blackstars...they have like this cloud over the whole thing. Many of them are in the same 20-40 watt ballpark. I've always just assumed it's cheap chinese transformers and circuit design.
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
The main thing I liked about the blackstar was how easy it was to dial in. Simple controls, clean channel and gain channel with a master and that was about it. It did have a voicing knob but that was easy too. The Bognor I tried was a pain in the arse
minerman
Tonetard
The "generic" thing I'm trying to describe with the HT-5 was the sound was dull, little to no high end "bite", like a blanket over the speaker...I had the combo, & even went as far as getting a couple more cabs (Randall 1x12 with a Greenback, Orange PPC112 V30), & it pretty much sounded the same, just dull & lifeless...maybe it was just me, maybe it was just that particular amp, I dunno, but I just couldn't get it to sound anywhere near what I wanted...
I got the Tweaker after the HT-5, much better feel, response, & tone, to me anyway compared to the Blackstar HT-5...
I'm sure the 40w Blackstar is much better than the 5w combo that I had, & I'm sure it's way more versatile, how much more than a DSL40, I dunno really. I like my DSL100 a lot, but it's a Marshall, maybe that's not what you're looking for...
Whatever you get, let us know how you like it, & post up some clips dude, I'm pretty curious about the 40w Blackstar in a way, there's a guy I know who has one for sale/trade not too far from me, I might end up trading him out of it...maybe...
I got the Tweaker after the HT-5, much better feel, response, & tone, to me anyway compared to the Blackstar HT-5...
I'm sure the 40w Blackstar is much better than the 5w combo that I had, & I'm sure it's way more versatile, how much more than a DSL40, I dunno really. I like my DSL100 a lot, but it's a Marshall, maybe that's not what you're looking for...
Whatever you get, let us know how you like it, & post up some clips dude, I'm pretty curious about the 40w Blackstar in a way, there's a guy I know who has one for sale/trade not too far from me, I might end up trading him out of it...maybe...
Lt. Bob
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it's a totally different amp.
To base a general opinion about Blackstar amps' sound on the HT-5 doesn't compute at all.
You may as well decide how Marshall amps sound based on their cheapest. smallest amp ....... totally meaningless.
Look ..... I love 5 watt amps and, as you know, I have a collection of them.
But I have them for some specific live work that i do and that's the only reason I have them.
It's them or nothing ...... but in no kind of way do they sound as good as any of my 'real' amps.
Basically a 5 watt amp of any kind is a POS compared to a real sized amp.
They're just two entirely different things altogether.
Tadpui
Well-known member
I can definitely vouch for the DSL40, it's a monster. Louder than hell, but still sounds decent at lower volume. I do love the breakup at high master volume settings though. Somebody had mentioned earlier that it had a really clean power section, but that hasn't been my experience. Crank it and it gets downright nasty. Just wear headphones or earplugs...mine makes my ears ring for a day or two if I'm not careful. At lower master settings, it still sounds OK, but damn when that power section gets cooking, it's a big bucket of awesome.
Those ValveKings were all the rage several years ago, but I haven't seen/heard about them for a while. I think that at the time, they were a good bang/buck. But then the market got saturated with almost identical mid-wattage, mid-priced tube amps, and the ValveKing faded into the masses.
Those ValveKings were all the rage several years ago, but I haven't seen/heard about them for a while. I think that at the time, they were a good bang/buck. But then the market got saturated with almost identical mid-wattage, mid-priced tube amps, and the ValveKing faded into the masses.
minerman
Tonetard
That wasn't what I intended to come across with dude...I was just saying that the HT-5 I had sucked...I also said the 40w Blackstar is probably way more versatile than the shitty HT-5 I had too dude...
No biggie, just gabbing on the internet about amps...
Tadpui
Well-known member
I haven't been a very good contributor to the tone thread lately. But I've been fiddling with my Fenders and wanted to post my new favorite tone. Forgive the playing, I'm flubbing notes left and right. I wouldn't have the confidence to post this anywhere except for the tone enthusiasts.
This is my first real exploration of the Custom channel on my '68 DR amp. The Vintage channel has the most amazing cleans I've ever experienced. But the Custom channel is just "meh" for cleans. Then I sent some pedals through it. The Custom channel seems to LOVE pedals.
I got a new (used) Fender P-bass, and I'm really liking it. I wanted an excuse to record it, so I did this. Posting drums and bass in the tone thread seems a little sacrilegious... This is just a 4-bar bass loop repeated over and over and over. Plugged direct into Mic input #1 on my interface, routed into an ART Pro VLA-II.
Guitar is a Fender American Deluxe Tele, bridge pickup, tone rolled back about 20%.
Sent it through an Ibanez TS9 (drive-10:00, tone-10:30, level-11:00)
Then a Boss CS-3 (level-max, tone-11:00, attack-9:00, sustain-max) - this is my the-sky-is-falling, end-of-the-world setting. Don't stop playing or it'll feed back! Ride the lightning!
Amp is a Fender '68 Deluxe Reverb reissue, Custom channel. (volume-4.5, treble-5, bass-3, reverb-3)
ugh, forgot that using a hardware compressor in a software insert loop means realtime rendering. Took forever to figure that out! Anyways, link is live again.
This is my first real exploration of the Custom channel on my '68 DR amp. The Vintage channel has the most amazing cleans I've ever experienced. But the Custom channel is just "meh" for cleans. Then I sent some pedals through it. The Custom channel seems to LOVE pedals.
I got a new (used) Fender P-bass, and I'm really liking it. I wanted an excuse to record it, so I did this. Posting drums and bass in the tone thread seems a little sacrilegious... This is just a 4-bar bass loop repeated over and over and over. Plugged direct into Mic input #1 on my interface, routed into an ART Pro VLA-II.
Guitar is a Fender American Deluxe Tele, bridge pickup, tone rolled back about 20%.
Sent it through an Ibanez TS9 (drive-10:00, tone-10:30, level-11:00)
Then a Boss CS-3 (level-max, tone-11:00, attack-9:00, sustain-max) - this is my the-sky-is-falling, end-of-the-world setting. Don't stop playing or it'll feed back! Ride the lightning!
Amp is a Fender '68 Deluxe Reverb reissue, Custom channel. (volume-4.5, treble-5, bass-3, reverb-3)
ugh, forgot that using a hardware compressor in a software insert loop means realtime rendering. Took forever to figure that out! Anyways, link is live again.
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Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
and me too ...... I'm not understanding why if you state something about amps you're just gabbing about amps on the net but when I do the same I'm somehow accusing you of coming across some kind of way? Didn't say anything about you whatsoever.That wasn't what I intended to come across with dude...I was just saying that the HT-5 I had sucked...I also said the 40w Blackstar is probably way more versatile than the shitty HT-5 I had too dude...
No biggie, just gabbing on the internet about amps...
Just talking about amps dude .... anyway, my point is there's no way to even have an opinion about the Club 40 based on having had a HT5.
Just such totally different beasts there's no point of reference.
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
oh man! That's pretty awesome .....
...... takes me back ..... 60's psychedelia .... is that amp a re-issue?I'd love to hear that clean channel with a chopped rhythm behind this lead ......... .
And don't rag on your playing ..... it sounds fine to me.
Post more mang! This was cool and I liked that tone a lot .....
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delirium trigge
New member
I don't use tube pre amps anymore and I get a good tube sound. But I use a Mesa 50/50 tube power amp. If you use a tube power amp after your axe fx it'll make a huge difference. Some people say it doesn't, but I've heard it both ways and it does. For example, a fender type tone, has that buttery tube power amp sound with a tube power amp, going direct, it just isn't there, at least not for me.
minerman
Tonetard
I dunno 'bout that dude, I was just telling the guy about my experience with the HT-5, & telling him what I'd heard about the other Blackstar amps from other people....If I offended you in any way Bob, I apologize, but honestly dunno what's up with that dude...