bass and a loud harp and drums ..... drummer was playing moderately loudish. Then afterwards I dropped by a friends house and we ran it thru a Marshall slant can .... one of them stereo/mono jobbies. It sounded pretty bad ass thru 4x12s although for me that's not the intended usage. I run it thru a single 10 cab.
yeah ..... when amps get dirty they also get compressed so once you've hit dirt it's not really gonna go much louder is part of it and when things get compressed it also takes some of the bite out of the attack which keeps it from cutting thru too.4x12s make everything better!
That's pretty cool that it stood up against drums, bass, and harp? Harmonica? I guess maintaining it's clean let it jump through?
Sounds great minerman. I can hear the Greg in those speakers.
For real though, sounds pretty awesome. How does the V30 I sent you compare to the one you had? Does it sound any "softer"? The one I got from you seemed a little stiffer when I first got it but I've since gigged and practiced with it a few times and it seems to have definitely loosened up some.
Sounds great dude, I like the clip with the 'verb best of course, both sound good, but the one with the 'verb just sounds better to me.....One of my favorite songs too, we used to play that in most of the bands I was in....
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I'm gonna go the other way and like it best without the verb. The verb made it sound 'softer' ..... it loses some of its edge and this needs to sound more immediate so I liked the dry clip better.
really good toan man ..... you seem to be really getting dialed in to some nice sounds.
.Thanks man. I don't ever EQ my clips for this thread, and most times don't do anything to them for a mix, but sometimes a little EQ helps. I'm not crazy about the "metal" clip. It's just not my style. But I do want to be able to get a good metal tone though just because I want to be able to do anything that I set my mind to, so I'm gonna keep working on it. My problem is that I don't listen to metal, I don't really like metal, and I can't play metal, so all of that is stacked against me. The JVM is capable of some high gain craziness, but it's not that modern super-deep drop-tuned Mesa-like high gain sound. It's high gain Marshall style. It's more Iron Maiden than Korn.
Yeah man, I think you'd love the JVM, especially the JS version, but you don't need it. Keep it on your bucket list for "one day", but don't fret over it. You've got all the tools you need to lay some great tracks. The stuff you've been doing lately sounds fantastic. As much as I joke about the one watt Marshalls, had they been available when I really stared hunting down amps for recording, I'm sure I would have bought one. Your DSL tracks sound awesome, and the JCM-1 kills! My quest for all this big over-the-top shit is a little bit practical, I do use it live and it records awesomely, but it's also a whole lot of fantasy and finally having all this stuff that I've always wanted. Lt Boob totally predicted all of this years ago.You're killin' me over here....JVM sounds great dude, I'd love to have one....guess I'll have to wait though....no biggie, I've still got the DSL-1, T15, & a shit-load of ampsims at my disposal....to be honest, I've barely scratched the surface tone-wise with everything I've got....I'd still like to have a fuckin' JVM though...
Man I really doubt Marshall will ever "go under". Maybe one day. Maybe the boss passing away was the beginning of the end. I don't know. I don't even care. All I know is I wanna get my hands on an early 80s JCM 800 2203 before they become unobtainable. I think maybe people have become spoiled, or impatient maybe? Does Marshall have to drop a new bomb on the amp world every year? Hell they went their first 30 years essentially making only a half dozen or so amps. From 1962 to 1990, really only two circuit designs mattered - the JTM-45/1959/1987 and the 2203/2204. That was it! For 30 years! The new DSL100 is only slightly more retail than an original used one. You get a fire breathing brand new all tube Marshall for less than a grand. Why can't they do that with the JCM 800 or Plexi reissues? Those circuits are stupidly simple. Why do those new reissues retail for over 2000 dollars? It's insane. I understand the JVM and AFD being expensive. They're technological marvels. But an 800? A Plexi? There's nothing to them. They'd sell a billion of them if they could price them like the new DSL. That's all Marshall needs to do. Make affordable modern versions of their true classics. People would line up for that shit.
Yup, I got the cab. Here's the story....Nice kid, showed up with his cute little girlfriend, maybe she was his wife, which I thought was weird. I'd never drag my wife to a potentially dangerous craigslist deal with a guy I don't know at an old warehouse that's been converted to a rehearsal space. But whatever. He showed, and we made the trade. It started with him asking "how does it sound?" So I hooked my 2204 up to the 2x12 and blew his face off. He got a little tentative about it. He asked me "Are you ripping me off? You're getting a 4x12 for a 2x12". I was kind of taken back by that. You don't ask if you're getting ripped off. That's bad negotiating. So I just threw him a WTF look and said "Dude, you asked for this. I don't need your cab. You said you wanted to trade your 4x12 for a 2x12, and here's one in mint condition sitting right in front of you. We can walk and forget it, I'm okay with that. I don't need your cab, but you do want a 2x12." His cab had a few little rips and tears but is in solid shape. I can glue them back down. They're tiny little right angle rips. It's cosmetically in much better shape than my other B cab. I pointed out the condition and said "Look, it's got some tears, and that doesn't really concern me, but it is something to consider. If I were buying this cab I wouldn't give you a penny over $350. If I were selling my 2x12 I'd ask for $430 and I'd let someone talk me down a little bit, so I think we're pretty even". I've been watching his ad. I knew 350 is what he dropped his craigslist price down to. Knowledge is power! And then I said "and if you hadn't found the casters, we probably wouldn't even be standing here. So that's what it is. Straight trade, I'm not kicking in any cash, take it or leave it. This is what you asked for." Bam, handshake, done. I don't feel like I ripped him off. That's what he wanted. He got an immaculate 2x12 that he wanted, and I got a another piece for my wall of awesomeness.
Thanks Ray. The metal brutality is pretty sucky.
