The New Tone Thread

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Go on, tell me.

VH tone was a moment-in-time kind of thing that happened just once, a very long time ago. It's ripples are unfortunately still being felt to this day in certain low-intellect musical communities even though it's creator has never come close to doing anything like it since, and the creator himself has moved far away from the style and equipment that got him there. The actual impetus and devices used to create VH tone are shrouded in lies, myth, mystery, and great debate worldwide. No matter, his armies of musical plebeians still attempt to capture that glory because it truly was, at one very brief moment in time, a glorious thing.
 
Lol. I do actually somewhat like the way EVH plays. Between his silly squealy squeals and mindless divebombs, he does some really good rhythm riffing.

I don't really consider Van Halen "hair metal" though. They're just a rock band turned pop band to me.
 
....even though it's creator has never come close to doing anything like it since, and the creator himself has moved far away from the style and equipment that got him there. The actual impetus and devices used to create VH tone are shrouded in lies, myth, mystery, and great debate worldwide.


I can totally understand how shit like that happens just by looking at my own guitar/amp odyssey over the years.
You just end up trying different things, different settings, different gear, and it's aways in small increments....I mean, I don't think any player goes out and dumps his entire rig for something 180 degrees in the opposite direction. :p

We are all always "tweaking"...and I'm sure EVH was/is no different. I think by the time his signature "tone" became the stuff of myth and legend, he had already moved away from it enough that it was hard nailing it again.
It could have have been one stupid setting of one knob....or a combination of a dozen micro-settings.

Fuck...I keep all kinds of notes when I record, I mean, mic positions, which pickup, where all the knobs were set....and I still can't always duplicate it 100% when it's something I did 5 years ago.
You can record today, leave everything in its place and just turn off the lights...and you come back tomorrow and it sounds different. :facepalm:

So yeah....that EVH tone was a moment in time. You can find the same kind of moment-in-time shit from Page, Clapton, Beck...etc.
 
And Slash, another widely copied guitar goofball. He made his mark on Appetite for Destruction and has never ever ever sounded the same since.
 
Lol. I do actually somewhat like the way EVH plays. Between his silly squealy squeals and mindless divebombs, he does some really good rhythm riffing.

I don't really consider Van Halen "hair metal" though. They're just a rock band turned pop band to me.
He's still the God of hair metal though. They all love him.

Anyway, I put a touch more mid in that Jackhammer tone and I am happy with it now and noted where the knobs are. Still no idea what contour and frequency actually mean though.
 
Yeah, brilliant sound on AFD. The widdling isn't mindless either, it's generally pretty tuneful.
 
Yeah, brilliant sound on AFD. The widdling isn't mindless either, it's generally pretty tuneful.

Yes, I agree, and that's why Slash to me is one of the few "guitar heroes" that's tolerable. I can listen to Slash songs. I can't listen to more than .3 seconds of Yngwie.
 
Indeed it is. The internet seems to claim sample rate mismatch with the keys. Seems believable enough but it's still funny.

Honestly...I'm surprised EVH didn't like just go "Hold It!"....got it sorted out, and then played it again.

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Here's how a proper aging rock band plays their hits.


You can't beat AC/DC for a good old Rock performance!
 
You can't beat AC/DC for a good old Rock performance!

Agreed. And listen to all of the sounds. Not just the bad ass guitar tone interplay, but even the drums are just fucking killer. I saw them live on that tour in 09 and even in the gigantic arena it sounded just as massive and clean as that video clip. Maybe the best show I've ever seen, and that includes seeing my beloved Ramones 6 times.
 
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