The Mastering Guys Say... Har-bal sucks?

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I tried Har-Bal; didn't work well for me. Looks interesting in theory, but it didn't work well in practice for me.

I'm not a "mastering guy" per se, but I'll do some quick stuff for clients that can't afford "real mastering". Har-Bal shoulda been able to get me closer to "real" records; it didn't.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
Har-Bal is the Miracle Whip of mastering. :)

G.
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Ok look I know the original poster is an immature moron.

But Glen you don’t got to get down on the miracle whip bub.
I mean to spin that delicious tangy zip into a likeness with this power-bunghole.... its just preposterous son.
By the way, can i have a link to a band (preferably), artisit, etc youve mixed>???
Come to think of it, ive never heard your work before, and your knowledge seems so vast........id love to hear that brain in audio action! :D :D

Anyways, sorry about the interruption guys.....carry on with the idiot bashing.
 
xfinsterx said:
By the way, can i have a link to a band (preferably), artisit, etc youve mixed>???
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The "About The Author" page in my compresison tutorial has a Reader's Digest verison of my bio, including a short list of folks I have worked with past and/or present.

G.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
The "About The Author" page in my compresison tutorial has a Reader's Digest verison of my bio, including a short list of folks I have worked with past and/or present.

G.
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Yeah ok great.
But the question was "Can i have a link?".
I dont want to go digging through readers digest, tutorials, fodder etc etc.....got a link mayo man?
 
cap'n 4track said:
Ps- don't try to make your point ME's, I'm out of here never to return. god forbid, But there is life beyond the Home recording forum.... :eek:
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Sweet.......... :rolleyes:
 
xfinsterx said:
Yeah ok great.
But the question was "Can i have a link?".
I dont want to go digging through readers digest, tutorials, fodder etc etc.....got a link mayo man?
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What digging? I have the link right in my sig line, and the bio page is linked right from the front of the tutorial. It's not an archeological dig :D.

But if you're looking for online music that has my name attached to it, last time I looked myself, you won't find any. There are websites for a few of the bands and musicians I've worked for, but last time I checked, none of them have actually posted any MP3s. This isn't your typical mySpace/Soundclick crowd, mostly older folks who have gotten past the sex, drugs and rock 'n roll I wanna be a rock star stage.

American Slang does have some stuff on their site, but it's old recordings with defunct band members and nothing that they've done since I've hooked up with them. If American English has some stuff on their site (I don't know if they do or not), it's probably not mine since I haven't been associated with them since Ken Zemineck (their George Martin) Jim Patriarca (one of their earlier guitar players) and I worked together back in the late 70s/early 80s. The rest of the bands listed don't have MP3s posted, I don't believe. And as far as the individual musicians and artists I have listed, they are session musicians with literally a few hundred albums to their names on which they've worked, but their solo projects and/or live work that I've done with them are not on the Internet.

You wanna hear my work? Send me a disc with a couple of minutes of some good raw racking on it and I'll mix something up for you :).

And, no that is not a freebie offer for anybody and everybody who reads this post! :D

G.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
What digging? I have the link right in my sig line, and the bio page is linked right from the front of the tutorial. It's not an archeological dig :D.

But if you're looking for online music that has my name attached to it, last time I looked myself, you won't find any. There are websites for a few of the bands and musicians I've worked for, but last time I checked, none of them have actually posted any MP3s. This isn't your typical mySpace/Soundclick crowd, mostly older folks who have gotten past the sex, drugs and rock 'n roll I wanna be a rock star stage.

American Slang does have some stuff on their site, but it's old recordings with defunct band members and nothing that they've done since I've hooked up with them. If American English has some stuff on their site (I don't know if they do or not), it's probably not mine since I haven't been associated with them since Ken Zemineck (their George Martin) Jim Patriarca (one of their earlier guitar players) and I worked together back in the late 70s/early 80s. The rest of the bands listed don't have MP3s posted, I don't believe. And as far as the individual musicians and artists I have listed, they are session musicians with literally a few hundred albums to their names on which they've worked, but their solo projects and/or live work that I've done with them are not on the Internet.

You wanna hear my work? Send me a disc with a couple of minutes of some good raw racking on it and I'll mix something up for you :).

And, no that is not a freebie offer for anybody and everybody who reads this post! :D

G.
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Ok.

Im going to post a song of raw tracks up here soon for ya on my server.
Believe me im not "calling you out" or nothing, i know you know your shit. I just want to hear some of it.

Itll be a new thread called Glen's mixdown.
Im sure youll mix the crapola out of it and ill be thrilled.
Thanks for obliging me.
 
I work in Pro Audio and Ive never heard of it.

no thanks, I'll stick to T-Racks ;)

heh hehe heh
 
Let's face it, Bashing Nar-bal is just to much fun to stop!!! :)


It's not pricey, It does have a demo, and a money back guarntee: so people should just give a test drive and decide for themselves. The curve stealing thing is only a small part of the software and there is also the pre-requisite learning to apply the dam thing. It's much less of a rip off the some red or orange EQ that'll set you back a grand!!( IMHO)

Overall, most people have some carpet cleaner around( I have cats so I wouldn't be caught without it) Harbal sucks, yada yada yada



Harbal sucks, yada yada yada
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Harbal sucks, yada yada yada
Harbal sucks, yada yada yada
:p :p :p :p


I think all you M.E's should stop losing sleep over it! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ya , right)



Here's a little snip from Garrett Haines " an angry letter from a M.E." in feb. EQ mag


You could've bought tiger woods golf clubs off E-bay, but it won't improve your swing"
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:D
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xfinsterx said:
Itll be a new thread called Glen's mixdown.
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That's not "calling me out?" :D

Might as well open the thread now and let Ed and chess and Falken and the rest who think I'm an asswipe post their opinions now and get it out of the way. :)

You send me the files and I'll send you a mix and you make your own honest private decision. I have no desire to be put on public trial with a kangaroo jury.

Or, you can just decide now that I can't mix my way out of a paper bag because I am hedging on those terms. :D It really doesn't matter to me.

G.
 
cap'n 4track said:
What I'd like to know is.... what are these "Pro Mastering Guys" doing in a HOME RECORDING FORUM ANYWAYS??? Seems to me if they were legit, they would be too busy WORKING instead of hanging around in a forum day in, day out letting everyone know how great they.... All the while cutting on people shitty mixes and "prosumer" gear. Uh, "HOME RECORDING FORUM IS THE KEYWORD HERE"
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Because that,s where the need is:


With the home recording revolution, big studios have closed. Many experienced engineers have fallen on hard times. According to rolling stone, this january was the worst ever CD sales since '91 , when the electronic monitoring of sales began.

an influx of newbies has lowered the quality of mixes M.E. get to work with. As a result, They spend more time in repair mode than sweetening mode.

Work on your mixing.

M. Katz said it best
"A great master starts with a great mix"
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But if not, don't worry, there's always time to " fix it in ther shrink wrap"! :p



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SouthSIDE Glen said:
That's not "calling me out?" :D

Might as well open the thread now and let Ed and chess and Falken and the rest who think I'm an asswipe post their opinions now and get it out of the way. :)

You send me the files and I'll send you a mix and you make your own honest private decision. I have no desire to be put on public trial with a kangaroo jury.

Or, you can just decide now that I can't mix my way out of a paper bag because I am hedging on those terms. :D It really doesn't matter to me.

G.
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Well whatever the case miracle whip is good.
Its really good on a blt you should try it.
Ill make a "Glenns blt" thread instead. :cool:
 
xfinsterx said:
Well whatever the case miracle whip is good.
Its really good on a blt you should try it.
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I think a lot depends on what one grew up on.

We always had mayonnaise in my house, and for me Miracle Whip tastes somewhere between mayonnaise and marshmallow Fluff :D. Well, maybe that's a stretch, but the Whip is a bit sweet for my tastes. It just has a fake taste compared to mayonnaise.

OTOH, I have a long time friend that grew up on Miracle Whip and thought that mayonnaise tasted bland and (in his words back then) "yucky" :).

And throw some turkey on the BLT for me, would ya? With a Red Rose iced tea on the side. ;)

...Oh wait, I thought this was chessrock's "Online Diner" thread :D.

G.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
I think a lot depends on what one grew up on.

We always had mayonnaise in my house, and for me Miracle Whip tastes somewhere between mayonnaise and marshmallow Fluff :D. Well, maybe that's a stretch, but the Whip is a bit sweet for my tastes. It just has a fake taste compared to mayonnaise.

OTOH, I have a long time friend that grew up on Miracle Whip and thought that mayonnaise tasted bland and (in his words back then) "yucky" :).

And throw some turkey on the BLT for me, would ya? With a Red Rose iced tea on the side. ;)

...Oh wait, I thought this was chessrock's "Online Diner" thread :D.

G.
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Turkey on a blt....
Blasphemy.


All hail har-bal!!!!
 
I think Har-Bal would make for a pretty cool EQ plugin, but I can't really think of anything other than that...

I like how it automatically adjusts the volume of the EQ so you only hear the changes in frequency and not volume. That helps for people like me who don't have that good of ears.
 
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