tascam 38 tape heads and lifespan.

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The lifters push the tape or “lift” the tape away from the heads in fast-wind modes.

Like I said earlier it’s a little hard to tell from the pics because the heads and other tape path components are out of focus, but I see a lighter than average wear pattern in the lifters from what I can tell.
i’ll take some more detailed pictures tonight.

also, since i’m a one man band who needs to overdub his own crap and is very picky about how good he plays (imagine asking a bandmate to overdub a part like 5 times without annoying him, meanwhile i could do it all day), i feel like i’ve been very liberal with my use of fast winding and shuttling. i do it probably more than i should, so i’m sure i myself am responsible for a bit of the wear that’s present.
 
alright here’s the video:

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so it seems that the far end of the shaft is getting the majority of the oxide, at least according to this single test, which is interesting to me. also, i say “a few minutes” but time flew by and it was probably more like 30 minutes, plus however long the last session was so probably over an hour of oxide on there.
 
and here’s a more detailed look at the heads.
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A couple suggestions about your cleaning techniques: when you are wiping the heads don’t wipe perpendicular to the laminations (don’t scrub up and down)…always wipe parallel to them (side-to-side). Always use a clean area of whatever you are using to wipe the heads as you move from component to component, rather than applying or re-applying a dirty area from the last component to the next component. When you are cleaning rolling components, like the rolling guides, you want to hold the cleaning tool/device/materials against the roller and turn the roller with your other hand so you can really clean the whole surface, and get into the corners. If you don’t get into the corners you’ll leave debris there that could migrate, and then what’s the point of cleaning anything? Lastly, you should clean every component in the tape path…you didn’t clean the takeup rolling guide, the lifters, or any of the static guides. It’s pretty common for there to be some accumulation in the corners of the static guides…and I can see that in the pictures. I think the foam applicator you are using to clean is fine for the heads and capstan, but it’s not at all ideal for getting the guides and other components. I use cotton makeup remover pads, the circular 100% cotton kind. They hold the dirt well and I can really get into the nooks and crannies and really clean each component, and this is critical if there’s some edge shed. And the fact you have some heavier (although I wouldn’t say it’s terrible, but it could be better) accumulation at the bottom of the contact band on the capstan shaft tells me either your tape path needs some mechanical tweaking and the tape is being drawn down to the bottom of one of the static guides, or it’s the issue I mentioned earlier where if the tape path wear pattern is established by Ampex/Quantegy tape and then you put something else on, you can have edge shed issues because the Ampex/Quantegy tape was slit slightly more narrow than the standard. So these are things that have to be evaluated. Also, do you clean the pinch roller? You should..lint-free cotton cloth and water…maybe window cleaner if there’s is stubborn build-up.

If you are having trouble with poor frequency response or signal level during playback, I’d stop, pull the tape away from the heads, and clean whichever head you are monitoring. If the cleaning changes things for the better, you’re dealing with a debris issue. If it doesn’t, I’d be looking at issues with oxidized amp card contacts or failed edge connector solder joints or relay issues.

The updated pics of the heads do help me see better. Again, assuming the lifter assembly and heads are original to the machine, and, based on the history you shared and assuming that’s all true, your 38 looks to have relatively low miles on it.

So I don’t know where you’re at with your issues or all this advice, but that’s what I have at this stage.

also, since i’m a one man band who needs to overdub his own crap and is very picky about how good he plays (imagine asking a bandmate to overdub a part like 5 times without annoying him, meanwhile i could do it all day), i feel like i’ve been very liberal with my use of fast winding and shuttling. i do it probably more than i should, so i’m sure i myself am responsible for a bit of the wear that’s present

Well, surely you’re responsible for some wear…we inflict wear on the tape path every time we load tape and engage any mode that moves tape across the tape path. But how long have you owned this machine? For some reason I was thinking you haven’t had it a long time but now I’m not seeing that in any of your posts, so I must be making it up in my head, and maybe you’ve had it awhile. But regardless, tape machines wear. It’s just a fact of tape machine life. Fast winding isn’t hard on the heads unless you defeat the lifters while winding to audition and scrub the audio. So don’t fret about doing a lot of fast winding. Sure it puts wear on the lifters but who cares…those are not critical components as far as wear concern IMO. And what you’re doing is no different than what any tape machine in a studio would be doing all day long…like in busy professional studios the tape machine is running all day and into the evening except for in between sessions during tear down and setup. But hours every day recording, reproducing and fast-winding. You don’t use your tape machine that much. And refer back to my very real-world account from somebody I personally know who operated multiple tape machines every day for years and years, and that MM-1200 that ran for hours every day for 8 years and that resulted in 15% wear *after* the relap (any relap takes away some of the tip depth as a result of restoring the head profile). So maybe those 8 years of frequent professional use caused 10% wear? So…you should relax about the wear. My 2 pence.
 
A couple suggestions about your cleaning techniques: when you are wiping the heads don’t wipe perpendicular to the laminations (don’t scrub up and down)…always wipe parallel to them (side-to-side). Always use a clean area of whatever you are using to wipe the heads as you move from component to component, rather than applying or re-applying a dirty area from the last component to the next component. When you are cleaning rolling components, like the rolling guides, you want to hold the cleaning tool/device/materials against the roller and turn the roller with your other hand so you can really clean the whole surface, and get into the corners. If you don’t get into the corners you’ll leave debris there that could migrate, and then what’s the point of cleaning anything? Lastly, you should clean every component in the tape path…you didn’t clean the takeup rolling guide, the lifters, or any of the static guides. It’s pretty common for there to be some accumulation in the corners of the static guides…and I can see that in the pictures. I think the foam applicator you are using to clean is fine for the heads and capstan, but it’s not at all ideal for getting the guides and other components. I use cotton makeup remover pads, the circular 100% cotton kind. They hold the dirt well and I can really get into the nooks and crannies and really clean each component, and this is critical if there’s some edge shed. And the fact you have some heavier (although I wouldn’t say it’s terrible, but it could be better) accumulation at the bottom of the contact band on the capstan shaft tells me either your tape path needs some mechanical tweaking and the tape is being drawn down to the bottom of one of the static guides, or it’s the issue I mentioned earlier where if the tape path wear pattern is established by Ampex/Quantegy tape and then you put something else on, you can have edge shed issues because the Ampex/Quantegy tape was slit slightly more narrow than the standard. So these are things that have to be evaluated. Also, do you clean the pinch roller? You should..lint-free cotton cloth and water…maybe window cleaner if there’s is stubborn build-up.

If you are having trouble with poor frequency response or signal level during playback, I’d stop, pull the tape away from the heads, and clean whichever head you are monitoring. If the cleaning changes things for the better, you’re dealing with a debris issue. If it doesn’t, I’d be looking at issues with oxidized amp card contacts or failed edge connector solder joints or relay issues.

The updated pics of the heads do help me see better. Again, assuming the lifter assembly and heads are original to the machine, and, based on the history you shared and assuming that’s all true, your 38 looks to have relatively low miles on it.

So I don’t know where you’re at with your issues or all this advice, but that’s what I have at this stage.



Well, surely you’re responsible for some wear…we inflict wear on the tape path every time we load tape and engage any mode that moves tape across the tape path. But how long have you owned this machine? For some reason I was thinking you haven’t had it a long time but now I’m not seeing that in any of your posts, so I must be making it up in my head, and maybe you’ve had it awhile. But regardless, tape machines wear. It’s just a fact of tape machine life. Fast winding isn’t hard on the heads unless you defeat the lifters while winding to audition and scrub the audio. So don’t fret about doing a lot of fast winding. Sure it puts wear on the lifters but who cares…those are not critical components as far as wear concern IMO. And what you’re doing is no different than what any tape machine in a studio would be doing all day long…like in busy professional studios the tape machine is running all day and into the evening except for in between sessions during tear down and setup. But hours every day recording, reproducing and fast-winding. You don’t use your tape machine that much. And refer back to my very real-world account from somebody I personally know who operated multiple tape machines every day for years and years, and that MM-1200 that ran for hours every day for 8 years and that resulted in 15% wear *after* the relap (any relap takes away some of the tip depth as a result of restoring the head profile). So maybe those 8 years of frequent professional use caused 10% wear? So…you should relax about the wear. My 2 pence.

i’ll analyze this more later, but i do wanna mention that i’ve HAD the machine since july 2024, but i didn’t load up tape and begin recording anything until Christmas time of 2024.

also, i bought a NOS empty ampex precision reel (6 screws, plastic ring around the hub) last night for my machine, you think that’ll help create a more consistent ride for my tape across the transport and heads? my tape winding is pretty uneven since i fast wind at the end of sessions, and it actually has begun bothering me now that i’ve started thinking about the end game with all of this recorded material that’s sitting in a big wheel of oxide.
 
Okay. I’d be HiGHLY surprised if you could visually see any wear that’s occurred since you’ve used the machine. Even if you’d been using it for hours daily. In the example of the MM-1200, tip depth of a typical tape head is around 0.020” +/-0.005”~0.010”. 10% of that is 0.002”…over 8 years. You using your machine periodically over the last 4-5 months? You wouldn’t be able to tell the difference in wear.
 
someone can please riddle me this one….. but i just found out that ALL OF THIS TIME when i’ve been recording and using my tascam 38, i had the tape path threaded incorrectly with the tape lifters bypassed. basically, putting the tape under (not pressed against) the lifters and resting against the tape heads.

i’m assuming this means nothing more than i was putting unnecessary wear on the heads and likely my tape?? but since everything seems fine (heads are fine, tape hasn’t self destructed) i’m guessing that using things correctly will keep things okay.
 
now that i’m thinking about this…. so this means that the tape lifters were pressing against the tape when playing and recording….. i mean my tape heads are fine, but this might explain the issues with 7 and 8 if the contact between the tape and the heads was irregular.

i just played a tape real fast to make sure my work wont be skewed by threading the tape the correct way and it seems fine. if anything, track 8 seems a little bit louder and more normal (though this wasn’t a careful analysis for an extended period of time. perhaps the tape path is just extra clean). has this dumb error been the cause of the few problems i’ve experienced??
 
that is… actually insane. i’ve recorded a whole 10.5” reel of tapes worth of music over the span of 4 months with THE TAPE PATH THREADED INCORRECTLY AND I NEVER NOTICED 😭 i feel fortunate that nothing went horribly wrong and my heads still look and sound totally fine. perhaps i’ve extended the lifespan of those lifters too by completely bypassing them.
 
still thinking about this while at work…. every time i fast wound or rewound, the machine was basically in cue mode against the heads. do this about 10 hours at least a week…… from january to april… probably a bit more than that. well, the fact that the heads still sound completely fine and the tape does as well, i can’t imagine that it’s been the worst thing in the world. though i definitely wore the heads quite a large amount more than i needed to and would have otherwise.

see how i was doing it:
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We don’t really care about wear on the lifter posts. They are sacrificial in a manner of speaking. But…yes…you’ve been disabling the lifters and their primary job of lifting the tape away from the heads during shuttling and fast-winding. This isn’t so much to reduce wear, but to avoid you having to listen to the audio during winding. Your heads are probably fine.

1. To all, read…the…manual.

2. Read #1.
 
We don’t really care about wear on the lifter posts. They are sacrificial in a manner of speaking. But…yes…you’ve been disabling the lifters and their primary job of lifting the tape away from the heads during shuttling and fast-winding. This isn’t so much to reduce wear, but to avoid you having to listen to the audio during winding. Your heads are probably fine.

1. To all, read…the…manual.

2. Read #1.
yeah, i discovered the dreadful (but kind of hilarious) reality right before work, and when i got home i took some seriously detailed pictures of my heads. they look totally fine, with the full middle strip down the width of the edge gaps totally intact and not uneven or anything. HUGE SIGH OF RELIEF.

i’m glad i caught onto this plain stupid issue before it was too far gone, as it was a completely random facebook post that i had no business watching and a comment that said the poster was threading their tape wrong that made sit back and think… “wait. that’s how I thread my tape!!”

the volume of the cue mode audio as it fast winds or rewinds is quite a bit louder than what i experienced when fast winding with the incorrect threading. this also leads me to believe that somehow or some way, i didn’t necessarily inflict the “greatly accelerated head wear” emphasized in the manual with regards to cue mode.
 
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