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chessrock
Banned
Blor007 said:
Could you have him build me one a' those there focus writes?
And a rhyno?
Could you have him build me one a' those there focus writes?
And a rhyno?
giraffe
i love negative rep
it's been said that the last 90% of price is spent on the last 10% of quality
i think that that's true personally
a c1 is NOT a u87
and yes, neuman's prices are a little inflated, because the mics say neuman on them.
see you next week
i think that that's true personally
a c1 is NOT a u87
and yes, neuman's prices are a little inflated, because the mics say neuman on them.
see you next week
S
sdelsolray
Active member
giraffe said:it's been said that the last 90% of price is spent on the last 10% of quality
i think that that's true personally
a c1 is NOT a u87
and yes, neuman's prices are a little inflated, because the mics say neuman on them.
see you next week
Actually, a major reason for the higher prices for Neumann mics (and other European mics) is the increase in the value of the Euro compared to the dollar. There have been two price increases for most of the Neumann line over the past 2 or so years, about 25%-30%.
sweetnubs
New member
I've recently been using a pair of Microtech-Gefell Um70's and really love these mics. So far I've used them only for guitar amp (in conjuction with a beyerdynamic m160) and toms but they sound fabulous in those applications. I think I will purchase a pair. I've never had the opportunity to try Soundeluxe or Baruner mics which is kind of strange since I have a friend who is a engineer for the company (Baruner) but based on his expertise I'm sure they sound fabulous. The new U87's (ai) are fine but I find the older version to be better. The good thing is the older u87's can be bought for much cheaper than a new one, the bad thing is they often need reconditioning. Sub $1000 quality large diaphragm condenser mics are kind of hard to come by. You'll notice the off axis response of the more expensive mics tends to be better. Also I don't have ton of experience with sub $1000 mics but I'll list a the few that I have:
Studio Projects (forget the model, I think C1): naw....
Neumann TLM-103 (own one): sometimes ok but mostly meh . . .
akg C414 b-uls and tlII: meh . . . ok sometimes.
Rode nt1: complete shit
akg c414 eb (I own 2 old ones with the c12 capsule): me rikey
At4060 (own two, recieved in trade for studio time): naw . . .sometimes ok in guitar amp applications. Look for two 4060's for sale sometime soon in a theatre near you!
akg c3000: yech.
Mxl v67: naw . . .
Groove tubes gt55: naw . . .
Shure Ksm32: naw . . .
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. There are probably a few others that I'm missing. Most of these mics i've compared side to side to sweet ass mics. They have usually been brought in by bands I'm recording for comparisons.
Sweetnubs rating system:
me rikey: I like. Use frequently.
meh: mostly dislike but can be usable. Tracks with these mics actually did make it to the final mix. Will use in special situations or when I run out of decent mics.
naw: Upon first hearing there was perhaps a glimmer of hope then I said to myself: naw . . .
yech: As soon as I brought up the mic in question there was no question: yech!
complete shit: undoubtely a cruel horrible joke. I never knew solid waste could be used to capture sound.
Studio Projects (forget the model, I think C1): naw....
Neumann TLM-103 (own one): sometimes ok but mostly meh . . .
akg C414 b-uls and tlII: meh . . . ok sometimes.
Rode nt1: complete shit
akg c414 eb (I own 2 old ones with the c12 capsule): me rikey
At4060 (own two, recieved in trade for studio time): naw . . .sometimes ok in guitar amp applications. Look for two 4060's for sale sometime soon in a theatre near you!
akg c3000: yech.
Mxl v67: naw . . .
Groove tubes gt55: naw . . .
Shure Ksm32: naw . . .
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. There are probably a few others that I'm missing. Most of these mics i've compared side to side to sweet ass mics. They have usually been brought in by bands I'm recording for comparisons.
Sweetnubs rating system:
me rikey: I like. Use frequently.
meh: mostly dislike but can be usable. Tracks with these mics actually did make it to the final mix. Will use in special situations or when I run out of decent mics.
naw: Upon first hearing there was perhaps a glimmer of hope then I said to myself: naw . . .
yech: As soon as I brought up the mic in question there was no question: yech!
complete shit: undoubtely a cruel horrible joke. I never knew solid waste could be used to capture sound.
tkingen
Djembes Rock
sweetnubs said:
sweetnubs,
Look's like you're in a different league than most of us!
T
The Engineer
New member
Rode nt1: complete shit
I was planning on copping the Rode Nt1000 what's wrong with that mic? Isn't it a warm sounding mic .. I heard it was good .. but maybe not
I was planning on copping the Rode Nt1000 what's wrong with that mic? Isn't it a warm sounding mic .. I heard it was good .. but maybe not
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baekgaard
New member
The Engineer said:
I am not too familiar with the NT1 or NT1A, but according to e.g. Ty Ford, the NT1000 is the first model from Røde which he considered "acceptable" in its range (I cannot remember the exact phrase used).
I have both a C1 and NT1000, and can compare them. The C1 is much more coloured, and sounds brighter. It makes the C1 cut through in a denser mix.
The NT1000 is "warmer" and sounds more like the source than the C1 does. It is a relatively clean solid state mic, although the sound you get varies a lot with the preamp!
But it is still on the bright side, and has the Røde characteristic sound. I sometimes dip it 1.5-2dB around 5 kHz to tame it a bit, but I find it is quite useful also as a general purpose mic, with slight EQ'ing at times. It all depends on the sound you're after.
There may or may not be some phase distortion in the 5 kHz range, although I personally hear it more a small frequency "bump" there that needs to be tamed when you're not after that "in your face" sound.
Of the SP mics, I guess the B1 is more like designed for a similar sound as the NT1000 is designed for. But the NT1000 has better off-axis characteristics, and sounds a bit less "edgy" than the B1 -- although that makes the B1 better for percussion, if you ask me ;-)
Oh, and I have all of these 3 mics, btw.
If you want a "warmer" mic and not as bright mic, then maybe -- of the Røde -- look at the NTK or K2. Other options would be MXL v67 or ADK Hamburg, all depending on how much colour you want and how much you want to pay for build quality.
But none of these mics are obviously Neuman, DPA or ... (whatever expensive) ...
-- Per.
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krs
New member
The NT1's I've used were definitely nothing you could POSSIBLY confuse with warm. 
Jburn34
New member
Not saying that you should get the U87, but there really is no comparison between it and a C1. I had a C1 for a while and I liked it. Really good mic for the money. And even though the U87 might be overpriced, it is in a different league. Trust me.