ausrock
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I wasn't calling you names DJ.............in retrospect i was overcomplementary.
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DJL
Self Banned
ausroc, don't bs... you've called me names many times. Do you have stock in PMI, or do you think Alan is going to give you a free mic or something... I mean heck, why does any of this matter to you anyways?
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DJL
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I think so too... and I'd like to know how long it takes too... but, more importantly what's the problem.skeelsd said:
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Richard Monroe
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It is also worth noting that a significant amount of gear of all types that is returned for repair actually has nothing wrong with it, because the source of the problem was misdiagnosed. This often takes the longest to deal with, because the repair facility goes nuts trying to find something wrong.
In most cases, they don't tell you much about the cause of the problem, although they will tell you if they replaced components, and what they were. Please note that this is true of many reputable manufacturers. When I had a problem with my Avalon AD2022, it was promptly repaired and returned in good working order. They were, however quite evasive when I asked what the problem was and what was required to repair it. Even after inquiries, I was only told that repair staff had "replaced several parts." So if you're expecting a detailed explanation from PMI, please remember that any answer you get is a matter of courtesy, and the original owner may never know what the problem was. My experience is that repair facilities will usually describe the malfunction and repair in detail, but manufacturers often won't.
I will, will, however, bet good money that from whatever day the presumably defective unit is received by PMI, the matter will be dealt with within 7-10 days max. Please note that the turnaround time I experienced of 4 days was due to a request I made to expedite repairs, as the gear was needed for a session where I was flying in overdub staff, and Alan, Justin, and Brent bent over backwards to help me out. And- I am nobody special, not a buddy, not a big-time customer with deep pockets, etc.
I think it's fair to say that any manufacturer of recording gear, from Behringer to Neumann, does know that a huge part of their potential customer base is on boards like this, and I know Alan would much rather have people post their good experiences than their bad ones. I also assure you that I have no axe to grind, and no agenda. If Studio Projects gave me a bad product or bad support, I would post it up, after I had communicated the problem to Alan, and given him a fair opportunity to make it right. Then I might very well postup what the problem was, and what was done about it, as I did with the C-4 shock mounts. I think holding your breath for an explanation from PMI in this case is going to make your face turn blue. Hell, if I was Alan, I might send the guy 2 mics on the condition that he never tells DJL what happened, just to push his buttons. I will be plenty surprised, though as I said, if the problem isn't resolved shortly after receipt of the unit by PMI.
In most cases, they don't tell you much about the cause of the problem, although they will tell you if they replaced components, and what they were. Please note that this is true of many reputable manufacturers. When I had a problem with my Avalon AD2022, it was promptly repaired and returned in good working order. They were, however quite evasive when I asked what the problem was and what was required to repair it. Even after inquiries, I was only told that repair staff had "replaced several parts." So if you're expecting a detailed explanation from PMI, please remember that any answer you get is a matter of courtesy, and the original owner may never know what the problem was. My experience is that repair facilities will usually describe the malfunction and repair in detail, but manufacturers often won't.
I will, will, however, bet good money that from whatever day the presumably defective unit is received by PMI, the matter will be dealt with within 7-10 days max. Please note that the turnaround time I experienced of 4 days was due to a request I made to expedite repairs, as the gear was needed for a session where I was flying in overdub staff, and Alan, Justin, and Brent bent over backwards to help me out. And- I am nobody special, not a buddy, not a big-time customer with deep pockets, etc.
I think it's fair to say that any manufacturer of recording gear, from Behringer to Neumann, does know that a huge part of their potential customer base is on boards like this, and I know Alan would much rather have people post their good experiences than their bad ones. I also assure you that I have no axe to grind, and no agenda. If Studio Projects gave me a bad product or bad support, I would post it up, after I had communicated the problem to Alan, and given him a fair opportunity to make it right. Then I might very well postup what the problem was, and what was done about it, as I did with the C-4 shock mounts. I think holding your breath for an explanation from PMI in this case is going to make your face turn blue. Hell, if I was Alan, I might send the guy 2 mics on the condition that he never tells DJL what happened, just to push his buttons. I will be plenty surprised, though as I said, if the problem isn't resolved shortly after receipt of the unit by PMI.
noisedude
New member
Yeah -
What he said!
It must be a benefit of age that Richie manages to say what I think but without sounding so pissy about it!
What he said!
It must be a benefit of age that Richie manages to say what I think but without sounding so pissy about it!
ausrock
Well-known member
Richie's eloquence is indeed admirable............and age has little to do with it.
noisedude
New member
Possibly ... but possibly once you've got a little more experience of life you stop getting het up at each small occurence, as someone of my age is more prone to do.
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DJL
Self Banned
If that happens I hope skeelsd tells everyone so they post all their 797 Audio/Studio Projects mic problems here on the HR bbs... and I will do my best to help get them free mics too.Richard Monroe said:
crazydoc
Master Baiter
That's sort of what we've all been wondering about you, DJ. I doubt if Alan sent you a nasty PM out of the blue, without you having made one of your numerous ignorant accusations about some SP product or service to warrant it.DJL said:
In retrospect, over the last year or so, I think your hundreds of mini-rants without any facts to back them up, have turned many more people on to SP products and greatly increased their sales.
I think Alan owes you big for marketing his product without anything in return. He should probably give you a Studio Projects product of your choice, but alas, they are so inferior, in your opinion, that you would have no use for it.
ausrock
Well-known member
"but possibly once you've got a little more experience of life you stop getting het up at each small occurence, as someone of my age is more prone to do."
N'dude,
I won't easily suffer fools or egos and unfortunately the two main PMI/SP/AH critics fall into one or both of those categories. BTW, I'm old enough to have been included in the draft for V'nam and was playing guitar when the fab 4 made it to the big time
N'dude,
I won't easily suffer fools or egos and unfortunately the two main PMI/SP/AH critics fall into one or both of those categories. BTW, I'm old enough to have been included in the draft for V'nam and was playing guitar when the fab 4 made it to the big time
noisedude
New member
Ha - fair enough then ... unless he's a big-time dope smoker I guess I just have to put it down to RICHIE BEING A REALLY NICE GUY.
*Sighs* ... I wish I could be more like Richie
*Sighs* ... I wish I could be more like Richie
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Richard Monroe
Well-known member
God, I think I'm going to toss my... oh well. No, noisedude, I'm a small time dope smoker. More an ounce a year kind of guy. Bottom line is- I read the things I write. I ask myself how it will sound to other people before I hit send. I ask myself whether the reader will understand what I said, whether it's true, whether *I know* it's true, whether it is useful to the discussion, and how it will make people feel, just like a song.
Is that a function of age? Maybe. The truth is, if you sound like a dickhead, even if what you say is true, no one will believe you, or care. DJL is a guy who sounds knowledgable and rational, as long as not a word is spoken regarding Alan Hyatt. As soon as AH/PMI/SP is in any way involved, he slips off the track, and begins to ask leading questions with a clear agenda, and often ignores stated details of a situation, and obvious facts. When criticized for this, (he will call it being attacked), he responds to the poster with a question, paraphrasing the meaning of the poster's comment in a way that proves he didn't understand what the poster was saying, or picking the poster's syntax apart ineffectively. He comes back with-"So what you mean is....", and everybody but him can see the person *didn't* mean that.
It isn't DJL posting his opinion of Alan Hyatt that is irritating. What is, is his tendancy to focus on a single comment , taken out of context, and his tendency to ask leading questions that imply what they do not say. If he were a lawyer, I would say he tends to badger the witness. I think he has lost perspective when it comes to Alan, and his apparent obsession makes him an incredible witness when anything to do with Alan is involved. I hope he learns to just let go of it. -Richie
Is that a function of age? Maybe. The truth is, if you sound like a dickhead, even if what you say is true, no one will believe you, or care. DJL is a guy who sounds knowledgable and rational, as long as not a word is spoken regarding Alan Hyatt. As soon as AH/PMI/SP is in any way involved, he slips off the track, and begins to ask leading questions with a clear agenda, and often ignores stated details of a situation, and obvious facts. When criticized for this, (he will call it being attacked), he responds to the poster with a question, paraphrasing the meaning of the poster's comment in a way that proves he didn't understand what the poster was saying, or picking the poster's syntax apart ineffectively. He comes back with-"So what you mean is....", and everybody but him can see the person *didn't* mean that.
It isn't DJL posting his opinion of Alan Hyatt that is irritating. What is, is his tendancy to focus on a single comment , taken out of context, and his tendency to ask leading questions that imply what they do not say. If he were a lawyer, I would say he tends to badger the witness. I think he has lost perspective when it comes to Alan, and his apparent obsession makes him an incredible witness when anything to do with Alan is involved. I hope he learns to just let go of it. -Richie
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bgavin
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I keep looking at the end of this thread to see if there is anything worthwhile to read about the B1.
Still nothing.
What a waste of bandwidth.
Still nothing.
What a waste of bandwidth.
noisedude
New member
I agree with you Richie. I think sometimes I'm afflicted with a sarcastic tone I don't intend! I'm a volunteer youthworker and I work with homeless people and drug addicts so I don't feel I'm a cold and cynical kinda guy ....... I just haven't quite found my voice yet in a forum sense.
bgavin - sorry.
bgavin - sorry.
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btr31
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just to clear this up. quality control is not nessesarily two mics (in a matched pair) not sounding the same. in any sieries of mics there are gonna be mics that sound the same. they cant make all the mics exactly alike. no one can. but quality control is matched pairs (witch sound exactly alike) sounding different then other matched pairs. meaning one matched pair being great and up to par for the application...and the other matched pair not.
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DJL
Self Banned
Send him an email and tell him to send the HomeRecording bbs cash instead of a Stephen Paul Audio mic in my behalf.crazydoc said:
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DJL
Self Banned
How slow is Studio Projects customer service?
Too bad you guys don't spend more time thinking about what skeelsd said about the 797 Audio/Studio Projects B1 in his first post rather than focusing on me... did anyone note the thumbs down... isn't that's the sign of an unhappy customer?
And here is some more 797 Audio/Studio Projects crap... http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=81568
And some more... http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=118626
And the list goes on and on...
Too bad you guys don't spend more time thinking about what skeelsd said about the 797 Audio/Studio Projects B1 in his first post rather than focusing on me... did anyone note the thumbs down... isn't that's the sign of an unhappy customer?
And here is some more 797 Audio/Studio Projects crap... http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=81568
And some more... http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=118626
And the list goes on and on...
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jeffree
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Richard,
As a young-looking but middle-aged guy, part-time studio guitarist and full-time instructor of business communication at UC, I agree with so much of what you write in this thread.
I appreciate your clarity, above all, and your thoughtful comment about how you pause for a moment, step back before hitting the send button, and think about how your audience will preceive your message. I believe that your point is an important one for all of us to remember when posting at this site.
It's always an interesting experience to ocassionally check some of our older posts to see how folks responded to them. I've learned much about myself, about my writing, from reflecting on such feedback and making any necessary adjustment that help me to get my points across in the way I intend. In short, I've found that if my message is not understood in the way I intend, then it's usually MY fault, not theirs. I'm the one who needs to adapt, not them.
And I've learned that it's generally wiser to be a bit too polite, to stay somewhat open in my thoughts, to qualify my thoughts with softer language, and so forth when stating them in such public forums. Usually, such an approach is stronger, not only here, but in many types of professional situations. As Peter Gabriel once sang, long ago, there's no need to shout what you've found.
But yeah, maybe it's partly an age thing...
J.
As a young-looking but middle-aged guy, part-time studio guitarist and full-time instructor of business communication at UC, I agree with so much of what you write in this thread.
I appreciate your clarity, above all, and your thoughtful comment about how you pause for a moment, step back before hitting the send button, and think about how your audience will preceive your message. I believe that your point is an important one for all of us to remember when posting at this site.
It's always an interesting experience to ocassionally check some of our older posts to see how folks responded to them. I've learned much about myself, about my writing, from reflecting on such feedback and making any necessary adjustment that help me to get my points across in the way I intend. In short, I've found that if my message is not understood in the way I intend, then it's usually MY fault, not theirs. I'm the one who needs to adapt, not them.
And I've learned that it's generally wiser to be a bit too polite, to stay somewhat open in my thoughts, to qualify my thoughts with softer language, and so forth when stating them in such public forums. Usually, such an approach is stronger, not only here, but in many types of professional situations. As Peter Gabriel once sang, long ago, there's no need to shout what you've found.
But yeah, maybe it's partly an age thing...
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Noisedude,noisedude said:I just haven't quite found my voice yet in a forum sense.
bgavin - sorry.
You're fine. Quit second-guessing yourself!
noisedude
New member
Thanks Tim, I just don't want people to think I'm a sarcastic wannabe! (Unless I am, of course 
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