studio moniters. help

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hey what would be the best studio monitors that give you alot of bass for 300 dollars
 
Consider this:


When you search for monitors, look up the EQ response of each. You want a flat response.


If you need more explanation, let me know.
 
mad flows said:
hey what would be the best studio monitors that give you alot of bass for 300 dollars
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You're thinking like you're installing a car audio system. Consider this: if your monitors give you a big bass boost, and you mix to taste based on that, then your mix will be bass shy, not heavy, because you won't have to boost the bass mix as much to get the sound you want--on your monitors. The same mix in your car will sound weak.

For $300 you're looking at monitors with 6" woofers. Those will be weak on bass, causing the resulting mix to be bass heavy. If that's what you want, no worries!

Also the bass response of your room has a lot to do with how the low-end on your final mix will sound. Do a search for 'bass trap' on the Studio Building board for details.
 
mshilarious said:
For $300 you're looking at monitors with 6" woofers. Those will be weak on bass, causing the resulting mix to be bass heavy. If that's what you want, no worries!
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Yup, that means they generally are not linear below 50-60Hz, you'll need a subwoofer for below that. But then you gotta make sure your monitors and your sub are properly leveled to each other to acheive linearity. I would just make do with just the monitors and check the mix in what ever end consumer stuff you got (boombox, home stereo, car stereo).
 
hasbeen said:
Those are the active ones. If you don't have an amp, these may be for you. I was referring the passive ones. They are on ebay for a really good price, but you need an amp. Do you have one?
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Na i don't have an amp are passive better than active or something?
 
mad flows said:
Na i don't have an amp are passive better than active or something?
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Active simply means that the speakers are powered by a built in amp (in each speaker). I have not tried the Alesis active.
 
Event TR6's thats what i use. And man it might not be all the bass in the world on them but for such a small package it still delivers bass you can "feel" and they are preamplified.
 
mshilarious said:
For $300 you're looking at monitors with 6" woofers. Those will be weak on bass, causing the resulting mix to be bass heavy...
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Well I'm not sure you can say this, coming from a limited point of a view. Every single speaker has a full range of frequencies, within 20Hz of the low end. Saying that since you dont have a speaker that shows the low end at a higher amplitude, that your resulting mix will be bass heavy is ONLY true if you dont know your monitors.

I have made GREAT mixes with cheaper monitor that I know, and have used for a while, as well as even BETTER mixes with the expensive ones I know well.

The most important thing, is taking any set of monitors home... trying to get used to them... burn your mix on cd, and try play it through high end systems... even something like a mission speaker setup, or something a little higher end than sony(bass boost central).

The size of the driver means nothing; It comes down to how well you know your monitors... dont get me wrong, they SHOULD be flat. The flatter the monitor, the more steps you skip when mixing(you dont need to know your monitors that much better to compensate for the frequency bump or drop). But in regards to bass, you really dont need anything more than a 6 or 8 inch driver... that is if you are willing to learn the way your monitors sound.
 
packratlouie said:
Well I'm not sure you can say this, coming from a limited point of a view. Every single speaker has a full range of frequencies, within 20Hz of the low end. Saying that since you dont have a speaker that shows the low end at a higher amplitude, that your resulting mix will be bass heavy is ONLY true if you dont know your monitors.
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There was a conditional part of my statement:

me said:
if your monitors give you a big bass boost, and you mix to taste based on that,
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So in the 6" discussion, I was still presuming mixing to taste, not a reference CD or general experience with monitors & mixing.

I have 6" monitors, they are not level below 100Hz, and they are nearly useless below 50Hz. Thus I also built a 10" sub.

That's what I like about 6"s, you can take the modular approach.
 
Contact Deepwater for prices on the Wharfedale 8.2 actives. got mine from him for under $300 and they are KILLER.
 
Look - I'll admit to not being the expert here - but I think you need to re-read Mshilarious' original post in detail - monitors are supposed to be "accurate" and "flat" etc. and while I don't doubt that Wharfedale make good speakers - I'm not sure "killer" sounding monitors are what you're after either.

But hey, what do I know!

I know that when I go to a music store and ask about microphones and they start saying that things sound "awesome" I tend to go somewhere else - more facts, less adjectives please... but that's just me.

Good luck!
 
mad flows , my only comment is ive seen great mixes done on great monitors
fall apart when listened to on other spkr playback mediums. eg..walkman headphones. so one has to strive for a balance. its not easy to mix
a song so it plays well on lots of mediums. i often fail miserably myself.
if you get a good pair of monitors you should also ensure song plays back well on earbuds(very tough !), boombox, a junk mono car speaker ,
normal home hi fi speakers as well as your shiny new monitors.
a big challenge to do correctly.
 
I have a pair of Alesis MK1's Good b ass response on them, and pretty cheap.
 
I'm pretty sure that ThaJeremy means that they are "killer" in accordance with what one wants from a monitor and not what one wants from a listening or club speaker.

Definitely check it out. I convinced my friend to get them recently and he loves them (I have not yet had a chance to visit him and they were just delivered at the end of last week).

I have the passive Alesis MKIIs and wish I had done more research and just waited until I had $100 more for these. My Alesis are a bit bassy and high endy and as a result, I mix too much treble into stuff. But...I've only done a couple of mixes on them, in an untreated room and don't know the nuances of them yet. Nonetheless, when things get more serious I'm definitely moving on.

Read this thread and talk to Deepwater for more info :rolleyes: :
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=123752&highlight=deepwater+monitors

Much love,
Cuzme
 
yo cuzme, I think i'm going to have to get those monitors,if deepwater still sells them for 275 then it's allready written. Thanx for than ifo
 
monitors + sub?

those wharfedales look great, and can't beat the overwhelming positive reviews. count me in. sounds like a great idea.
I produce a lot of electronic music (mostly drum & bass) in addition to recording mine and friends' instruments and vocals, so I'll probably want to add a sub to the mix for low-end reference - any recommendations for a happy sub combo here (for reference on sub-50hz frequencies, not slammin' bass)? Or does it even matter in an 8x10' box of a project studio (considering the length of that freq. range wave)?
I've got a little 10" powered sub in my car, and that certainly seems to make a difference on low freq response, but once again in such a small place am I really hearing those lows or am I only hearing the low-mids louder? Not sure if this is something I should consider before replacing my 'consumer' speaker setup with studio monitors... any thoughts?
thanx
 
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