So I got my guitar set up...

[philbagg]

...the one talked about in this thread.

Sounds great. Intonation's done, no more fret buzz, even got a whammy bar fitted on (last one broke off )

One problem though. He put the guitar back into standard tuning, I had it in Eb. I'm gettin alot more picky (if that's the word) with keeping this guitar in top shape now, and from reading the manual (download link below), I'm really confused. I'd like to know exactly how to adjust the bridge etc. in order to change tuning successfully. I'd appreciate if someone could help me understand it a little better

Instruction Manual - PDF page 25-26 (manual page 23-24) "ZR (Zero Resistance) Tremolo"

The main parts (underlined) I'm having trouble with are:

Adjusting the Intonation
"Loosen the string stopper bolt of the locking nut (Fig.11). Remove the
intonation adjustment bolt (Fig.12 B) from within the bridge unit, fasten it
into the screw hole in the rear of the saddle, and tighten it so that the tip
of the bolt contacts the boss of the bridge unit. Loosen the saddle lock bolt
(Fig.10 C), and turn the intonation adjustment bolt to adjust the position of
the saddle. After completing the adjustment, tighten the saddle lock bolt
sufficiently to prevent the saddle from moving forward during tuning, and
store the intonation adjustment bolt inside the bridge unit." - I'm having a little trouble with most of that but the underlined parts are the biggest trouble. If I could get my head around those I imagine I'd have a fair idea.

The entire second page "ZPS (ZERO POINT SYSTEM) OF ZR TREMOLO" is confusing aswell.

I'm kinda asking a lot here but I'd love to know about this kind of thing for future reference and I gotta learn some time. Thanks guys.

Edit: After reading the post again, just want to clarify that I know that the intonation and tuning are two separate things. I need to know how to adjust the bridge after changing tunings, but I'd like to know about the intonation etc.

Thanks.

 

[stevieb]

Why the Eb tuning?

 

[mcmetal]

If you had it tuned for Eb and wanted it set up for Eb than he should have set it up that way.Did specify that you wanted it set up in Eb?

If not shame on you.If so,shame on him and take it back and insist he set up the way you asked.In my opinion you paid for a service and if you didn't get what you asked for than it should be corrected and any buisiness should honor that.

A half step down isn't that big of a deal but with a tremelo it will change the action somewhat.After all isn't that what you paid someone to do.
Check out www.projectguitar.com

Some good tutorials there.

 

[philbagg]

I forgot to mention that it was Eb to him. But given the situation, it'd be a handy time to learn. I don't want to have to pay some guy to set my guitar up if I want to change tunings.

And I want it in Eb because I write most of my music in Eb, most of the songs I like to jam along with are in Eb, and I play in a band that does a lot of covers and we tune down because it's easier for me to do backing vocals. I'll have a look at those tutorials.

 

[TetraFish]

If you tune it down and start screwing with the intonation you could end up in the exact same boat as when you started. Like you said, it doesn't hurt to learn but it could be a steep learning curve.

 

[ggunn]

I forgot to mention that it was Eb to him. But given the situation, it'd be a handy time to learn. I don't want to have to pay some guy to set my guitar up if I want to change tunings.

And I want it in Eb because I write most of my music in Eb, most of the songs I like to jam along with are in Eb, and I play in a band that does a lot of covers and we tune down because it's easier for me to do backing vocals. I'll have a look at those tutorials.

Before you start mucking about with the intonation or going back to your tech for a re-setup, tune it to Eb and see if it makes a difference to you.

 

[mcmetal]

Before you start mucking about with the intonation or going back to your tech for a re-setup, tune it to Eb and see if it makes a difference to you.

I agree.A half step probably won't throw the action off too much but the intonation will most likely go sharp on all the strings.I just dropped both a guitar with a tremelo and a bass down a half step for the songs i'm working on and in both cases all the strings went sharp.Had to reset the intonation.

If he's not doing any recording maybe he can live with it for a bit but if he plans on recording anytime soon then it should be set up right.

I suggest getting a hold of the guitar tech though.I'm sure he would make it right and not charge an arm and a leg if he wants the continued buisness.

If you tune it down and start screwing with the intonation you could end up in the exact same boat as when you started. Like you said, it doesn't hurt to learn but it could be a steep learning curve.

Well it's better to learn on a spare guitar so it doesn't matter if it gets a little screwed up.Either way he needs to learn some basic set up eventually or pay the price.It's not that hard really.

I'd say he already banked a hard right turn into that steep learning curve already by not specifying exactly how he wanted it set up.Can't blame the guitar tech for this one.9 out 10 times if you don't specify an alternative tuning they'll set it up in standard.