seeking small allround amp

[Jamal Bucket]

Good suggestion on the Cube 30. Versatile and affordable.

I'm not sure the "CUBE 30" fits very well with "allROUND" guidelines..???

 

[Outlaws]

Wait.....wtf is wrong with Celestion as a brand? (outside of the China move) Sure they make some crap speakers, but every company now makes a few crap models. If you have ever heard of "Greenback" or "Vintage 30", then you would know they are not a bad thing. I have never heard anyone speak ill of those two speakers other than if they didn't fit the style of playing.

I know most cheap amps don't come with those two speakers, but be clear when you bash a brand. Just because Marshall has a $100 crap amp doesn't mean they don't make some of the most used and greatest sounding amps in history.

 

[soundchaser59]

Here is my list of acceptable guitar speakers:

EV
JBL
Tone Tubby
Weber
Eminence
Jensen
Celestion


You will notice that Celestion is at the BOTTOM of the list.....

 

[raven46]

vox ad15/30/50 all good amps, quailty of the wood is not so great as marshall/fender an so on but if you treat it right you will have no problems, ive had an ad50 for over a year and never had any trouble, i think it sound great and are pretty cheap hence the quality of the wood and yes they are basically a korg from china but i dont couldnt care it can do what i want

 

[six]

hey, thanks for all the replies so far. hmmm... there's quite a few that i've never heard of .
i also thought about a small modeler. i mean i have a V-amp for recording and I love this thing. i prefer it over the pod. i even tried it out as pre-amp for my 'real' amp (v-amp --> poweramp). not bad at all. but then again i don't know if the poweramp and the speaker of a v-ampire are any good (it's highly praised at harmony-central.com though).
i played thru flextones and spiders a couple of time and... aaaah... i don't like them at all. i don't say they're crap - it's just me.

so the price I want to pay lies below 630, but you have to consider that the price-levels might be higher here (blues junior goes for about 733 - don't know about the US).

any opinions on hughes & kettner matrix? they generally build good amps, don't they?

well now, i'm getting my guitarbag just now and leave for some music-stores, we'll see!

 

[TelePaul]

I've heard some great guitar players do some amazing shit with epi's and digitech. Stop acting like you know shit, you don't.

Back off, its called an opinion, nobody begrudges you yours...I like Epis and have used Digitech too, but they won't suit everyone.

 

[six]

talking about opinions...

so i went to some stores today. couldn't find a behringer. anyway. I played thru a roland cube. it sounded ok without a comparison, although higher grades of distortion sound very JazzChorus, and I definitely do not like that.

then I plugged into a hughes & kettner edition blue 30. I remembered playing the guitar that I finally bought thru this lil' bomb when I was looking for a guitar. this amp kind of really revealed the differences of the guitars.
anyway, now it was about amp. this small sucker has BIG COJONES. there's a kind of push that you wouldn't expect from an amp this size. the distortion is dirty as I want it... gets a bit buzzy and grainy above 12 o'clock - but 9 o'clock is far enough.

I then also played the hughes & kettner matrix 100. very nice for the price, but too big for what I need it. clean and crunch channels are sweet, the lead and warp channels (almost no difference) are a bit too artificial. so what do I need 4 channels for if I only like 2 of them?

then I plugged into a spider. the shop-assistant really liked this amp. he didn't want to persuade me to buy one, but he told me enthusiasticly how cool it sounds (i didn't want to say: NOOOO, it sucks!).
the spider has no real punch. it has a bunch of sounds (not even that many), some are mediocre, others are just awful. the hi-gain sounds are itchy like old boss digital multi-effect-boards. it's quite the opposite of the hughes & kettner. no cojones. it's ok for practicing on your own, though... i think.

oh, I almost forgot the vox. not bad but slightly worse than the h&k, 2-band-eq, not footswitchable... and its cojones are a little smaller .

so finally i decided to buy the h&k. I don't have it yet cause the dude in the shop (3rd shop) didn't have the one without effects (which'd be fine but I don't need them and they're not really inexpensive).
he told me however that he had one at home with a fucked up front plate - the mirror doesn't look that fine anymore. I can get it for 200 swiss franks, which is 167 USD... yeah, cool.

oh yeah, forgot to say: it has a jensen speaker. i think this is the spiders problem - must have a crappy speaker, because the pod-sounds recorded thru its speaker-sims are ok (not as good as my v-amp though... well, taste again).

 

[marshall409]

whatever

tom morello's digitech whammy is from long before the products they make now.

im getting a whammy as soon as i can btw. its their simulators, and individual pedals that sound like crap to me. but hey thats just me.

and the epiphones in his range are nowhere near what paul would play. their upper range models might be good, but theres a lot to be desired in their entry level models i was referring to.

also,

i know SOME shit. take it easy.

Adam

 

[marshall409]

I've learned not to hate certain bands or brands just cause everybodyelse says they suck. I used to post on boards about how much certain guitars and mics and consoles sucked ass cause I had seen more experienced people talk about how much they sucked, so I thought I'd sound smart as well if I agreed.

oh man. thats the reason i left the UG boards for good . im sick of those punks too. i know exactly what youre saying. may god strike me down if i give advice on something i have absolutely NO experience with. you'll never catch me talking about consoles or pre amps or mics or anything. im a guitar player and thats what im giving advice on here.

I've heard some great guitar players do some amazing shit with epi's and digitech. Stop acting like you know shit, you don't.

relax buddy.


EDIT:


oh ya and congrats on the new amp!


Adam

 

[TelePaul]

tom morello's digitech whammy is from long before the products they make now.

im getting a whammy as soon as i can btw. its their simulators, and individual pedals that sound like crap to me. but hey thats just me.

and the epiphones in his range are nowhere near what paul would play. their upper range models might be good, but theres a lot to be desired in their entry level models i was referring to.

also,

i know SOME shit. take it easy.

Adam

I think an epis an epi...nobody slagged off the beatles for playing em instead of Gibbos.

 

[marshall409]

I think an epis an epi...

huh? what?

150 dollar pressboard guitars are comparable to john's '65 casino?

Adam

 

[Outlaws]

I think an epis an epi...nobody slagged off the beatles for playing em instead of Gibbos.

Ummm....back then Epiphone was a seperate company and not an entry level brand name.

 

[TelePaul]

Ummm....back then Epiphone was a seperate company and not an entry level brand name.

I know what you're saying about them being seperate. But I seem to remember the Epiphone John lennon re-issue out-performing its Gibson counterpart. Wish I could remember the mag now....besides, Paul STILL plays an Epiphone, the fact that its a high end model shouldn't really make a difference; if it did we could lynch fender because their squiers dont sound like their American Deluxes!

 

[Outlaws]

I know what you're saying about them being seperate. But I seem to remember the Epiphone John lennon re-issue out-performing its Gibson counterpart. Wish I could remember the mag now....

Curious why you'd call em an entry level brand name...=They cost 700, 800 lids here.

I dunno why we aren't having the same discussion about fenders to be honest.

Ya they have $800 guitars now. I think they even have a $2000 guitar or two if I recall. But their bread and butter now is strictly the $200 - $500 area...which IMO is entry level for the most part. I though when you said an "Epi is an Epi," you were refering to those of the 1960's being no different than those of today.

 

[TelePaul]

Ya they have $800 guitars now. I think they even have a $2000 guitar or two if I recall. But their bread and butter now is strictly the $200 - $500 area...which IMO is entry level for the most part. I though when you said an "Epi is an Epi," you were refering to those of the 1960's being no different than those of today.

Had a further thought and added to my post above. Do you guys really hate epis that much? I don't like epi SG but I think the LP is okay.

 

[soundchaser59]

I thought we were talking about Epiphone amps here? Like any other brand, their "high end" amps are better than their "entry level" stuff. None of us would compare a Fender Pro Junior (or a Blues Junior, for that matter) to a Fender Twin. We all know one Fender is not just like all the other Fenders. Epi amps are no different in that regard.

 

[kid klash]

I'm not sure the "CUBE 30" fits very well with "allROUND" guidelines..???

Well, it does an acoustic guitar model (using an electric guitar), an ultra clean Roland JC-120 model, a Fender blackface model, a Vox AC-30 model, an early Marshall stack model, a modern rectifier stack model, among others. If that's not an "all around" type of amp, I'm not sure what is. And the thing is REALLY loud too for it's small size. I've played a couple of small gigs with it besides using it for rehearsals. Granted, it's an ugly little thing, but I usually play with my eyes closed anyway...

 

[RandyW]

they sell them to 12 year olds along with epiphones and digitech pedals and tell the kid he can sound like metallica with this.

its quite sad to witness.

Adam

ps

no joke

There is nothing wrong with the Epi VJ I have 2 of them and there great for recording and playing with. Actually one is a V special with a 10" and reverb.
I got them both for a fraction of what I payed for my Fender Supersonic.
The supersonic may sound ten times better but it also cost 11 times more
so I guess that makes it a bargain.

 

[Tadpui]

Oh he was playing with words there. Har-dee-har-har

Maybe if Roland came out with the Sphere 30, that would be a much better all aROUND amp

But hey, isn't it hip to be square? Oh god I'm going to hell for referencing Huey Lewis aren't I?

 

[darrvid]

Hmm, seems like you should be able to get a blues jr cheaper than that. I remember getting my tweed jr (which run more than the black) for 500ish if not cheaper. Are you looking used? Nothing wrong with going used, espically if it means the difference between solid state and tube. (I am in the states though, sounds like maybe theres a market difference)

Anyway, if you can swing it a jr is a great little amp. I planned on only using it for practice myself, but now it's my main amp. Its plenty loud to play smaller gigs, great tone for recording, small enough to lug around easily.... yep, I like mine.