Reverberaaaaaaaattttion

[RandyW]

Lt Bob got me wanting one of those little little Valve Juniors.
I spent the weekend building a cabinet for it but thats another story.
Any way what I need for it is a good reverb unit.
I have done a few searches and I can't find a decent spring reverb
unit for less than $500.

I can remember many moons ago having an extrenal spring reverb I'm not
sure but I think it was a Gibson housed in its own little cabinet kindo like the
old echo plex. I haven't seen either of those 2 units for decades.

Anyone no where I can find something like that?

 

[daav]

Can you yank one off any other amp? My first $150 fender solid state amp from the early 90s has a spring unit on it.

Daav

 

[ggunn]

Can you yank one off any other amp? My first $150 fender solid state amp from the early 90s has a spring unit on it.

Daav

Not unless it has the circuitry inside the amp and the attendant I/O connectors to support it, and the Valve Jr doesn't. He needs a self contained inline unit of some kind. Digital is a lot cheaper, but lacks that, um, springy-ness we Fender fans crave.

 

[travelin travis]

i hear they're kind of noisy but have you considered an electro harmonix holy grail?

 

[RandyW]

i hear they're kind of noisy but have you considered an electro harmonix holy grail?

The electro harmonix is an option I was thinking about but I have used one.
My VJ got here today I tryed a V AMP Pro and the reverb sounded terrible on it.

I hooked up through my Marshall VS100 through the line out it sounded pretty good but I hate to tie up 2 amps just to get reverb.

I have a Fender Acoustisonic Junior that has a pretty decent sounding DSP reverb. But what I really want is a good old fashion spring unit.

Maybe some one will come up with a mod to hook up an acutronics unit to the VJ.

 

[Outlaws]

So you want a real spring reverb? And your Valve Junior has an efx loop?

Don't screw around. Get the real thing.

 

[travelin travis]

So you want a real spring reverb? And your Valve Junior has an efx loop?

Don't screw around. Get the real thing.

that thing is expensive: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-63-Fender-Reverb?sku=480553&src=3WFRWXX

surely there must be some inexpensive diy reverb kit out there.

 

[travelin travis]

if you have some experience with electronics, you might want to look at this: http://sound.westhost.com/project34.htm

 

[Outlaws]

I thought they were $350. Oh well, they must have raised the price or I just forgot.

I can't think of any pedals or processors that can do what that can do...and if they can they will as much money or even more.

DIY is good, but 99.999% of people are no going to have the motivation/patience to trouble shoot once the thing doesn't want to work after you just followed the directions to a T. I know.

 

[travelin travis]

DIY is good, but 99.999% of people are no going to have the motivation/patience to trouble shoot once the thing doesn't want to work after you just followed the directions to a T. I know.

that's always a bitch ain't it?

i found this kind of crude method: http://www.homerecordingconnection.com/news.php?action=view_story&id=277

it's very simple and could be used for other things too.

 

[travelin travis]

this has got to be the craziest spring reverb i have ever seen: http://www.firstpr.com.au/slinky/

check out the video and audio directory, . cool stuff.

http://www.firstpr.com.au/slinky/sl981231-8a.jpg I want one.

 

[Outlaws]

that's always a bitch ain't it?

i found this kind of crude method: http://www.homerecordingconnection.com/news.php?action=view_story&id=277

it's very simple and could be used for other things too.

LMAO
Thats actually more of a small scale plate reverb.

Cool idea. Plate reverb units are what lots of old old records were made using.
http://www.prosoundweb.com/recording/tapeop/plate/plate.php

*If* I had the space I would build one in a heart beat.

 

[RandyW]

That fender would be nice, but I don't want to spend $500 on a reverb unit for a $100 amp. There is something wrong with the scenario.

I've send accutronics reverbs on ebay for $85 there must be someway to tap in the the signal perhaps just before it get sent to the main power tube.

I did find another reverb but it's even more than the Fender

http://www.mojomusicalsupply.com/cgi-bin/mojotone/MOJOVERB.html?id=xdv7m8hD

 

[ggunn]

That fender would be nice, but I don't want to spend $500 on a reverb unit for a $100 amp. There is something wrong with the scenario.

I've send accutronics reverbs on ebay for $85 there must be someway to tap in the the signal perhaps just before it get sent to the main power tube.

I did find another reverb but it's even more than the Fender

http://www.mojomusicalsupply.com/cgi-bin/mojotone/MOJOVERB.html?id=xdv7m8hD

The problem is that with a "normal" built-in reverb, there is a whole section of the amp built to run it. The signal needs to be amped up quite a bit over line level to drive the spring unit, and then a pretty sensitive input circuit has to pick up the acoustic signal at the other end of the springs, boost it to line level, and mix it back in with the straight signal.

Standalone analog spring reverb units are expensive in part because they have to duplicate all that circuitry. It is not, unfortunately, as simple as just breaking the signal path at line level inside the amp and inserting a reverb tank.

 

[RandyW]

Well I ordered another EPI amp a valve junior special. Hopefully the DSP reverb will sound better than the vamps. It will be interesting in seeing how the two amps differ I thik the special has an extra 12ax7 in it. I found one for $160, so 60 extra bucks will get me several extra knobs a 10" speaker, DSP effects and a seperate variable DSP reverb.

Does anyone know if any of the cheap littler fender amps have line outs? I know I mentioned it before but using the line out for reverb on my Marshall VS100 into the input of the VJ sounds great on the cabinet I built fo the VJ.

A little about my cabinet, I used the left over remains of a Hammond M100 organ. I couldn't give it away. So I sawed the cabinet in pieces but saved the speakers and speaker baffle. I sure wish I would have kept the amp but I think I put everything else in the trash.

Any way I built a box and installed the speaker panel and speakers along with he brass trim in the new box. These speakers are old 12" 16ohm units over 50 years old and they sound superb. I think all the old speakers from ancient old tube amps were 16ohm so it really adds to the flavor.

I've tested my VJ with a 12 Marshall Celestion cabinet and also a Harke vx bass cabinet the one with 1 15" 2 8" and a horn. But the home made hammond cabinet sounder better than both of them. I have to post a pic of this sometime the cabiniet has a cut out in the grill cloth where the swell pedal use to be. It has the original grill cloth and some real nice brass along one side.

 

[hixmix]

I have done a few searches and I can't find a decent spring reverb
unit for less than $500.

I just saw this: http://chrisguitars.com/premier-90reverb-hosa.jpg

Premier Tube Reverb, (pic2), ca. 1965. For you vintage purists, there's nothing like the warmth and depth of a tube-driven spring reverb - digital just doesn't sound--or feel--the same. Especially good choice for vintage amps such as Bassman, Deluxe, etc, which don't have onboard reverb. Very simple to use - just plug your guitar into the input and the hard-wired cable goes to your amp input. Includes Hosa on/off switch for hands-free operation. Covering is wood-grained wallpaper style - looks very cool and very 60's. Come to think of it, it looks like the walls in my parent's living room. Just out of the shop with clean bill of health and a new Accutronics reverb tank installed. Nice shape for 40 years and nice price for one of these at $299.

I've inquired though never bought from him but I've heard from many sources he's reputable. Sometimes you'll have to e-mail him 2 or 3 times before you get a reply.

 

[RandyW]

I found a fender on ebay it was up to $275 while ago