My home recording studio ideas. Here's the scoop.

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

What planet are you on? If I'm not mistaken, this is HOMERECORDING.com NOT PROREC. Take your sarcasm elsewhere. Everyone knows a 2" is the best but what the fuck would homerecording people do with it, hmmmmm? Taperecording on a lesser format is STILL better than digital any day of the week. Even my MSR's.

 

[snow lizard]

Better for what? Signal to noise? Longetivity of the storeage medium? Dynamic range? Frequency response? Post production and editing?

Define "better".

Look buddy, I'm not trying to throw a fuck into things here, but if tape's your thing - that's fine. Tape is different than digital, sure. Either medium can sound good or bad depending on what you're doing with it, and what you have.

If you think a Dodge Caravan is better than an Isuzu pickup truck, that's fine too, but neither one is a Porshe. Which one is "better", and why are there a lot more vehicles on the road?


sl

 

[corban]

HAHAHA. What planet are you on indeed! Obviously, all recording that is not translated onto a tape is not REAL recording, in the sense that physically, it does not exist. I have never personally actually SEEN a bit, therefore they do not exist. Hence, in digital recording no waveforms are stored, and as such, these recordings are incapable of being played back to a listener. Any experience to the contrary that you might claim to have is invalid, and is purely a product of your imagination.

 

[choctaw]

Page on How to Buy a Tape Recorder - The Old Stuff

This fellow has lots of old...old...advice on Otari, Studer, Ampex etc. It is like reading about wagon trains in the old west and trying to fit them up with sunroof's from the now times. http://www.analogrules.com/buymachines.html
We can talk about collecting Tape Machines...but it has become no more than collecting antique dishes, old coins etc. They are nice to look at, but to use them is cost killing and dissapointing. Might as well get 45 records and enjoy the scratches. Like it or not digital is what it is. It will not go away. And will get better. Plus the new people who have nothing to compair it to will just accept the sound as it is....which lacks many of the dynimacs the old plactic gave us. So enjoy what you have, for some day it will be gone and replaced with something different and not so great. Like digital that will do almost anything with a track of sound, except produce the orginal in all its splinder.

Choctaw

 

[firby]

Don't use the audigy? Man, some of these forums crack me up. Yes, I am new to this one, but not to others. Trying to find a home recording person that will say they use the audigy is like trying to find someone who would openly state they like Garth Brooks. No one you ever talked to liked him, but he would sell out auditoriums in 15 minutes.

Spin Doctors....that is how it all gets started. Pro-Gear companies spend a lot of money to get people thinking "If you are not using my product, it is inferior and will sound like crap".

I live here in Nashville, TN and can assure you that there are several "Home Studio's" and semi-pro studio's all over this city that use the SB Audigy 2 Platinum or the Audigy 4. If I get the chance, I will get some recordings and put up that uses the Audigy 2 and then you can be the judge for yourself. It all depends on the person in the computer hot seat on how well the Audigy 2 performs.

I make my living doing Vocal Demo's and am in and out of Pro Studios, Home Studio's and some that shouldn't even exist doing vocal demo's for song writers. There are more "Home Studio's" with the Audigy 2 than most people will ever confess, because if it doesn't sound cool to the general public, who in the hell will claim having one?

Buy what you can afford and and learn what you are doing. I learned a long time ago that people often blame the equipment for their lack of skill. The more money you spend, the less skill you have to have because the electronics themselves do most everything for you. The Audigy 2 will be sufficient to produce most any type of demo you would ever won't. It's not like anyone is trying to compete with the Major Labels here, is it? If so, I really don't think you should be on your home PC doing it.

Mike

Oh my god. I am so ... like not with you. Despite the fact that the sound sucks and that you can have a much better soundcard for the SAME money. I can not and will not believe that you would only want two fricking inputs/outputs for recording at the same time. Especially given that this guy is a drummer and is recording drums.

How freaking Daft. As for Nashville. What's Nashville have to do with anything? I am from Los Angeles and I can assure you that there are better project studios here that do compete with major studios and they sure as hell aren't running 5ound Blast3r Audigy cards in their DAWs.

But it really doesnt matter where I or you are from because it's all about getting the best sound for the buck.

 

[firby]

Yeah, an Otari with a 2" 16 track head stack will give you around 40 minutes of recording at 15 IPS, and the tape should only cost around 200 bucks. Editing is a breeze if you have a unit with a built in splicing block. Once you've built a climate controlled vault for your tapes, you shouldn't have any problems with shedding. I'm sure that most people here will know exactly how to bias the machine properly. The mixing console and 1/2 track can come later.


sl

HA!

Thank you Snow Lizard!

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

I am so ... like not with you....

How freaking Daft.

Good god. How freaking....like...8 yr old.

 

[SMX_Dizzy]

So I havent been here for a while. Quickly, here's what I have to say: I'm getting an Alesis Multimix 8USB mixer. KEEP IN MIND that later next year or in the future I will upgrade probly to a Firepod or Multimix 16USB. That's all for now, folks.

 

[Markaholic]

that Alesis Multimix 8USB mixer only allows you to tranfer 1 stereo track of ALL YOUR INPUTS to the PC! so if you got 4 mics hooked up to it...your not gonna get 4 seperate tracks on the pc ..what you'll get is all 4 mics mixed down to 1 stereo track...which in my opinion..is F'n useless!

 

[SMX_Dizzy]

...and i'm only gonna use 2 at a time max on that thing, which'll be my 2 overhead drum condensers. I kinda knew that going into it, it's not like i'm getting the best stuff right off the bat. Everything else will use 1 input...for guitars and vocals and piano and whatever else. So i'm not too concerned.

 

[SMX_Dizzy]

AND NOW.....i'm switching to the Alesis MultiMix 8FIREWIRE, so it'll all be seperate tracks and 24 bit instead of 16. Now i hav to wait till Spetember

 

[LemonTree]

forget the whole idea and buy yourself a fishing rod

 

[corban]

fishing sucks

 

[Halion]

It's not about the fishing, it's about the buying of the rod. Like buying a hometrainer. Nobody uses those either.

 

[Jeff_D]

AND NOW.....i'm switching to the Alesis MultiMix 8FIREWIRE, so it'll all be seperate tracks and 24 bit instead of 16. Now i hav to wait till Spetember

You're better off seriously. You'll quickly outgrow 2 mics on the drums (like the first time you record)- you'll WANT and NEED more. trust me.
It'll be worth the wait. You'll get that and be like; "fuck- theres no way i would have gotten anywhere with that other stuff"

 

[MusicFreak]

I know this is kinda late, but why doesnt anyone recommend a EMU 0404?

 

[corban]

I'm not sure what a hometrainer is, so I googled it, but just got foreign languages. I'm guessing it's kind of a netherlands thing?

 

[Steenamaroo]

dude,,,

1st...dont buy creative anything ever! they are not professional audio manufacturers. bottom line.

2nd,,,no need for two sound cards/interfaces. buy a delta 1010 or the firewire u were talkin about.
as far as i know,,,to audio devices will not work together anyway.they fight for priority.


in terms of preamps,,,,if your gonna be mixing drums, i suggest investing in a simple desk.most of them will have at least two phantom power channels.all channels will be preamped.
make sure it has seperate channel outputs,(not just stereo main)

then you will have drum mics,,,->7/8 channels on desk->7/8 seperate outputs

->7/8 seperate inputs on your breakout box or whatever ->assigned to 7/8 seperate channels in your software.


thats what i did with a delta 1010 pci card,
behringer sl2442fx (started with ub802 for £30)
and one bitcho computer

 

[SMX_Dizzy]

Wow...haven't posted in a LONG while!

Here's my sitch:

I'm gonna start early this coming year, probly February around after I get my liscence, maybe longer depending on how long it takes me to get a car.

I've been debating wheter to output a mixer through RCA or USB. I realize both will just go into one stereo track, but that's all I can afford now I guess. Next year when I have a stable job, have more money saved, and have built many more comps (lol ), I'll buy myself a full set of drum mics and an Alesis Multimix 16 Firewire. Since I have MIDI and such on my Audiphile 2496, I don't really need the Firepod, and I like the standard mixing capabilities of the Firewire mixer better anyway.

I'm gonna start of with probably a large diaphram condensor for vocals, and might just run the guitars straight into the mixer w/ mics...i think this will make a better recording (but correct me if i'm wrong). I'm gonna do 2 overheads probly, or one overhead and one closer to everything.

I might get a crack of SX3, but if i don't wanna risk it i'll stick w/ SE.


Well, that's all for now. PLEASE keep posting. I've learned a ton from this thread, and without this thread my studio would be shit

 

[puffin]

I might get a crack of SX3, but if i don't wanna risk it i'll stick w/ SE.

Oooooooooooooooooohhh...... I'm telling! You're gonna get it now!