My first song, Help me out

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Dude... Excellent recording... love the strings... great recording quality... and a pretty good tune too.



How do you mic/mix your acoustics?


There's a couple little timing issues with your percussion, but other than that.. great performance too.



WATYF


(chris,.. thanks for the heads-up on this tune.)
 
WATYF Thanks for the comments, to see my setup for recording acoustics look toward the top of this thread, I posted most of the stuff there, if you have any more specific things let me know and I will field that. As far as the timing, believe me I hear it, and it bothers me a lot. When our drummer came in he was having a VERY off day and what you hear on the song is about 3 samples just looped all over. The sad thing is that those are the best takes, and I even had to go in individually and move some beats. It was painstaking and discrete drums are looking more and more tempting :) Anyway, next time we won't have a time limit and we can really nail the drums hopefully. Thanks again.
 
so all you do is play the same thing twice and hard pan it???


*egad*... :eek:


I just met you and already I hate you... :p ;)


I really can't stand my acoustic sound... it still blows my mind how I can never get a satisfactory sound even though I use almost the same exact methods. :( :mad:

This is a great acoustic sound, man. I really wish I could get this type of a result.

WATYF
 
oh yeah... btw... you wouldn't happen to want to move to St. Louis and be my singer, would you....


:p


I dig your voice... and three takes is nothing... I'm lucky if I get a decent result from comp'ing 7 tracks of vocals. :p




WATYF




(this guy's a lot closer to me than Erland.. I'm thinking I might need to change my kidnapping plans... :p )
 
Ya, well I used to mic it pointing at the soundhole and I got so many mids it made me sick. When I have just a single guitar part or a solo artist I do the small condenser at the 12th fret and the Large condenser over the shoulder, and it also works great. I recorded them in a small beadroom that is not really dead, but it breaths a little. Not overly boxy. It is the same place I did vocals, and the Cello. The guitar is beutifull too which helps, but I have had good results doing a $100 Ovation too, but it was doing lead so the punchyness worked out well. The hardest part is setting my own levels. I have to run back and forth from different rooms to keep setting them. Ahh the things we do for the love of music.
 
oh, this is very nice! welcome aboard friend. i absolutely love this. can't wait to hear more from you.

so you did the vocal with the C1? sounds like a C1. I'm hearing a pattern around here with that mic. The top end is really bright! The highs are a bit uncontrolled. There's gotta be some tricks that you can do with that mic. I don't know them cause I don't own one.

The djembe is a bit up front but the low end isn't blowing my home stereo speakers so i wouldn't worry to much about the eq. I think they actually could use more high end maybe? Maybe lower the overall volume notch and let the high end breath a little more? Just some ideas. I've never mixed a djembe. I can't even mix a solo vocal recording well.

The guitar sounds great as do the violins and your voice is very nice as well.

again, welcome to the board. stick around and teach us all something :).
 
What are the details on the over-the-shoulder micing. (placement, direction, etc.) I may try that the next time I record. I currently mic using an SD condensor at the 12th fret and a LD condensor out in front a ways for "room" sound.


I have a nice guitar... so that's not the problem.. and I've recorded on very nice equipment before,... so that's not the problem... I dunno man... it's like this "curse"... I just can't get a great guitar tone.


WATYF
 
Well the Temptation is building, I hear St. Louis is great this time of year :) However the ample opportunities of making it big are just too strong here in Rexburg, Idaho. I just don't think I could risk the chance of missing a massive record company Guru seeing me during one of his regular visits here. :)
 
OK here is how I do it, and this is just stuff I have heard on this board and adapted to what fit here. Most things I know have come from here, I love this place. If you notice I have been a member for like a year and have been learning but have just started recording.

I put the 603 pointing at the 12th fret poiting towards the soundhole but not at it. I have it about 3 inches away. Then the C-1 goes over my shoulder and it sits about 2 inches from my right ear. I then face it down so it is about the angle my head is at when looking at my picking hand. So basically it is as close to what my ear is hearing as possible. I then hard pan them or go 80% on each side depending on how much space I want. This will not give much room sound, and there isn't a huge difference between the two mics but when panned gives you some real distance. If you want a lot of room sound I would also put up the room mic. I don't like much reverb on my guitars, and I don't have great rooms to record in. I am in a small 3 beadroom apartment with 6 guys. That is 6 very understanding guys :) So I prefer to go dead then add stuff later. On this song I didn't add anything to the guitars though, they fit fine where they were. Keep in mind I can only talk from my experience, and I have very little of it. So get out a large plate of salt and digest grains of it as you deam apropriate.
 
LOL.... yeah... I can imagine there must be a huge local music scene in Idaho...

:D :D


Well,.. I've been looking for a vocalist for... oh... I dunno... a billion years now... :p And everytime I hear someone with a great voice around here I threaten to kidnap them... :p Don't worry... I haven't actually gone through with it yet....



but that's prolly only cause the best candidate so far lives in Scotland... :p




WATYF
 
"Don't worry... I haven't actually gone through with it yet...."

It's the "YET" I am worried about :)
 
dudleys100 said:
OK here is how I do it, and this is just stuff I have heard on this board and adapted to what fit here. Most things I know have come from here, I love this place. If you notice I have been a member for like a year and have been learning but have just started recording.

I put the 603 pointing at the 12th fret poiting towards the soundhole but not at it. I have it about 3 inches away. Then the C-1 goes over my shoulder and it sits about 2 inches from my right ear. I then face it down so it is about the angle my head is at when looking at my picking hand. So basically it is as close to what my ear is hearing as possible. I then hard pan them or go 80% on each side depending on how much space I want. This will not give much room sound, and there isn't a huge difference between the two mics but when panned gives you some real distance. If you want a lot of room sound I would also put up the room mic. I don't like much reverb on my guitars, and I don't have great rooms to record in. I am in a small 3 beadroom apartment with 6 guys. That is 6 very understanding guys :) So I prefer to go dead then add stuff later. On this song I didn't add anything to the guitars though, they fit fine where they were. Keep in mind I can only talk from my experience, and I have very little of it. So get out a large plate of salt and digest grains of it as you deam apropriate.
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I am totally trying this the next time I record.. :p


thanks for the tip man.


WATYF
 
Oh ya, and I hear ya on the C-1. I have a Dragonfly coming if it ever gets here, and I am in process of getting an NTK. I think that will give a lot more options.
 
I haven't even really wrote or recorded my first "real song". But i can tell you this...............IT WON'T BE THIS DAMN GOOD!!!!! man, this is a great song, i hope you stick around for a long time!!
i want more!!!!!!!:D

really great voice!!!!!!!!!!! i love it! i am now officially burning any and all musical equiptment i own!!! :mad: :D

Thank's for this song, man!!!!!!!!

peace

Rick
 
O.K. man... I'm getting some new gear this weekend... and the first thing I'll be doin' with it is trying out this recording technique...


now... If my tone still sucks after that...


then it's a curse. :p


WATYF
 
Excellent voice. Great song. Emotion was a-flowin'. There seemed to be some harshness in the overall mix, but it was probably just the mp3. Welcome to the club! :)


Chad
 
wow man that is a GREAT voice.....damn...the song is cool .....but that voice...i mean thats a "WHOA" moment for me.....ill be bcak after i know this by heart....










thanks
jamal
 
after 10 listens

i love this song. so does my wife :).

ok, so here's more feedback after more listens.

about the mic, i've heard this mic do something similar before but there's so many variables involved that it'll be good to hear you try those other mics. i'm particularly interested in the NTK. I'm hearing distortion in the upper frequencies.

About the guitar, it sounds excellent.

That djembe is definitely the loudest thing in the wave. cutting it back will give you more headroom for the whole thing. It's creating a mountain around the 40-80 hz range. cool sounding drum though!

did chrisharris ever get you those backup vocals?
 
I dig your voice even more after listening a few more times.





If you ever want to do a collab, just let me know.

(it's safer,.. and much easier than me kidnapping you. :p )


WATYF
 
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